DB02 cheaper alternative to TRF502 announced tamiya 58507
 

Tamiya release schedule:
58507- RCC Middle Class Shaft Buggy DB02.

Might help get some cheap spares, also looks like they are moving away from belt off road buggies :(

I had exactly the same thought when I saw this: The excitement about the fact that Tamiya will release a new buggy, but the disappointment that this is probably the end of the line for Tamiya's belt driven buggies.

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any pics?:thumbsup:

link and pics please

no pics yet, the info is from a shop stock release list (along with a load of tt01's and a VW camper van on a lunchbox chassis)

mmmm, my original DB-01 needs retiring..... I am guessing the same things will go on it, shocks, cvd's etc... I could well be tempted!!

hhhmm, mayby not using my 511, maby it will get a colectors item in 30 years...

I hope it comes with gear diffs instead of ball diffs. I'm tired of rebuilding the diffs in my 502X.

I talked to someone at Tamiya America and he said there were no plans to discontinue DB01. :p

does it come with a free copy of the guardian, and waitrose vouchers?

:thumbsup:

Ive got a 502X and oddly enough mine came with a M&S bag dont you know ;)

http://tamiyablog.com/wp-content/upl...miya-58507.jpg
http://tamiyablog.com/wp-content/upl...58507-db02.jpg

There you go! :) Seems like this car will have a centre diff? I hope it will be one that can be filled with oil then! I see a slipper clutch in the design as well, so there are hopes Tamiya will finally release a club racer/high end basher with a slipper clutch!? :o:thumbsup:

I do think they need to re-consider that body - hideous! The wing seems to be the TRF501X/DF03 MS one.

From Tamiyablog...

http://tamiyablog.com/wp-content/upl...miya-58507.jpg

Very wide shell. Why?

http://tamiyablog.com/wp-content/upl...58507-db02.jpg

Because it seems to be concealing a transverse motor with a complicated central gearbox. Superficially it looks like a centre diff, but I think it is actually a dual-gear drive, one for the front gearbox, the other for the rear.

Interesting solution, rather like one of the possible ways of building the Awesomatix touring car, and evocative of the classic Tamiya 4wd chassis. Puts the motor in the ideal orientation for getting the power down, but also hangs it out off the side of the chassis.[/URL]

it looks as if it will have two counter-rotating propshafts. I wonder if tamiya have done some computational modelling on this design - looks quite a complex thing to try at random.

I thought that at first, but if you look a the relative position of the bearings for the output shafts, they are offset, so the two pairs of gears are not meshing together.

Appears to have enough space to take a third saddle pack under the rear drive shaft
What would make this really awesome is if they had designed the body shell to emulate the manta ray!! :D

They seem like the small LiFe batteries they're trying to use in all of their new releases - or it's a stick pack with two braces over the top of it, making it look like 3 batteries :p I just hope they make it compatible with regular size batteries as well or this chassis won't sell.

Anyway, I hadn't spotted the offset on the gears yet. I don't see though why they didn't use a single shaft and two gears less instead then if it's not a diff, this just results in more mass, and in the exact spot where you don't want it: Your drivetrain. It also doesn't seem to result in any advantages for moving the motor more to the center.

The best things from the 502X and the 511 combined in one car.

The position of the electronics and the steering geometry from the 511. The gearboxes from the 502X.

Slipper is not included but optional:
54336 DB02 Slipper Clutch set

ah yes - you're bob on. the offset is maybe 3mm & there's a solid layshaft to the opposing pinion. wouldn't it be cool if tamiya took this opportunity to introduce some sort of torque splitting device on the layshaft?

I love it, Tamiya madness! So does that mean the rear propshaft is high up in order to clear the battery? Can't quite make it out?

Like someone mentioned, question then will be if Lipo's will fit, either a saddle either side or a stick underneath?

What will Tamiya will call this one?
Another crazy name no doubt :) ... i like the look of it.

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1962/tamiya58507.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7...a58507db02.jpg

i opt for:

"wild snotpork" :)

The battery pack looks like a normal brick pack. No idea what is going on with that drivetrain but it's new and I like it. :thumbsup:

ANOTHER HOMERUN FROM THE JAP GIANT

Buddha. Cause it's phat.

I still don't get how a lipo fits!? How do they get the rear centre shaft high enough? Where on those picture would you fit lipo connectors??

Don't get me wrong though, if there's no sign of a new TRF by the time this is available I'm sure I'll get one for a play, IF lipos fit!?

When is it due again?

Looking at the pics I would say that quite simply rear centre shaft is high enough to allow the lipo to sit under it.

And I would assume that the lipo connectors on either end of the stick pack would be visible, it would be insane for Tamiya to make a car that does not find a standard Lipo...

I have a video on my blog here http://thercracer.blogspot.com/2011/...air-video.html
Lots of video of the DB02 from 30 mins in

I have to have one, it looks so mad!! Probably thin lipo's will go in, but that body looks mad, never mind cab forward, it's cab everywhere!!!

When is it due, no chance by Christmas I assume?

It looks huge doesn't it!

Cool vid,
like to see how the third diff will work when its on the track
strange way, layout and strange concept

great

There is no third diff.

I will look at replacing my DB01-R if there is a DB02-R verson. I like the fact the car is a bit differant from the norm, well done Tamiya for this concept, but can we have a better looking bodyshell please or employ a new body design guy !!!!

jK

They actually did employ new design guys for this. The body was designed by the actual TOM'S racing team.

Dudes that make cars like this.
http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/1054...m-s-racing.jpg

source: http://kentech.blogs.se/
"A nice detail is that the body was designed by the TOM'S racing team in Japan!"

Good find qatmix!

DB02 looks typically bonkers/inspired, love Willy's Bus, and the Celica LB Turbo deserves to be put on a track, that's a proper race car.

Well, I know what 4wd car I will be running next year... woot!!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...ech/db02b2.jpg

I quite like it :)

Here's more on TOM's:
http://www.tomsracing.co.jp/motorsports/index.html

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...ech/db02i2.jpg

Absolutely love it, but i do wonder why they didnt mesh all 4 gears together in the centre gearbox for better durability. I know the front and rear centre shafts would spin in opposite direction, but that's easily reversed by turning the diff around, plus it would cancel out the torque effect from left to right.

But i do love the idea of that centre gearbox tho, also looks like its sealed for putting different weight oil in there, great for tunability.