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12-nitroman 07-10-2011 09:26 PM

i have bought a 4wd buggy now 'hotbodies d4' from shaun 'thesheep' atikinson
 
thanks to shaun after i had bought his brushless system now i have bought a hotbodies d4,just waiting for it to arrive :D
any tips and tricks for the d4?

Col 07-10-2011 09:29 PM

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...2epP5c_Zwo3VtT

sparrow.2 07-10-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 12-nitroman (Post 563899)
...any tips and tricks for the d4?


Brake for corners!

racingdwarf 07-10-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Col (Post 563901)

I thought it, you put it in pictures...quality:D

12-nitroman 07-10-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Col (Post 563901)




hahaha,no i'm not that lost mate just asking if anything major breaks on the d4 or anything i should buy to make it better.

paulc 07-10-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Col (Post 563901)


I was thinking that too !!


The problem with the D4 is there quite an old model and not many people run them so you might have problems getting spare parts and advice on set ups

Benh 08-10-2011 04:03 AM

Hope this helps....

Get the WCE slipper if it's not on there. Standard one is awful!

Make sure you use the titanium diff bolts as the standards are, again, awful. The diffs by and large need a lot of tlc, but I found ceramic for the thrust and steel for the diff was a better combination.

They're the two main things that stopped me finishing races, or would change the cars handling dramatically throughout 5mins with huge inconsistencies.

(I put durango geared diffs in mine to stop the diff issue altogether.)

Rest of of it is track dependant. Start with kit set up and work your way from there.;)

mark christopher 08-10-2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 12-nitroman (Post 563919)
hahaha,no i'm not that lost mate just asking if anything major breaks on the d4 or anything i should buy to make it better.

Durango or b44

russmini 08-10-2011 08:12 AM

Why does everyone have to take the piss?

Why can't you just help the bloke. If you cannot, don't want to, don't know, then just don't reply !

I'm all for banter, but sometimes, some take it too far.

It may be an old buggy, but perhaps he got it for a good price and will help him get into this class of racing.

Perhaps a B44, DEX410 etc etc are just way too much for someone wanting to dip their toe in or just plain don't have the money some of you have.

Help or don't bother.

stumpiey 08-10-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by russmini (Post 563992)
Why does everyone have to take the piss?

Why can't you just help the bloke. If you cannot, don't want to, don't know, then just don't reply !

I'm all for banter, but sometimes, some take it too far.

It may be an old buggy, but perhaps he got it for a good price and will help him get into this class of racing.

Perhaps a B44, DEX410 etc etc are just way too much for someone wanting to dip their toe in or just plain don't have the money some of you have.

Help or don't bother.

well said, he was just asking for some advice, this is ment to be one of the best forum's, so come on guys, show it to be just that

Si Coe 08-10-2011 08:36 AM

The only real 'problem' I found when I had a D4 was HPI/HB and the lack of support. That was when it was still in production!
Never had any diff problems, and never really found the slipper an issue with either version (ran original and WCE versions) but I did find the front shock tower rather fragile. Beefing up the tower just meant it snapped front bulkheads instead. Since HPI rarely imported D4 spares, that meant a wait of several weeks for replacements.

If the car has a couple of spare front towers and bulkheads, its pretty much sorted. Although its now considered an older model, technically its based around the same platform as the B44 and is quite capable of competing with it.

Rumour has it the Caster SK10 is based off the D4 and D4 parts fit it. If this is true (and I can't say either way) then Caster spares might solve the D4 parts issues.

Adam F 08-10-2011 09:03 AM

Going by the original thread, people did try to help.... but not sure how many suggested a D4...

mark christopher 08-10-2011 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by russmini (Post 563992)
Why does everyone have to take the piss?

Why can't you just help the bloke. If you cannot, don't want to, don't know, then just don't reply !

I'm all for banter, but sometimes, some take it too far.

It may be an old buggy, but perhaps he got it for a good price and will help him get into this class of racing.

Perhaps a B44, DEX410 etc etc are just way too much for someone wanting to dip their toe in or just plain don't have the money some of you have.

Help or don't bother.

ok wise ass... your jumping to conclusions.

His post says what can he do to make it better........
Well I had a d4 and it was a good car, just could not get bits, in answer to his question to make it better i got a durango and a b44. Now if you want to come on telling others what to do, fine, I'd advise not doing it to those giving honest replies.

fastinfastout 08-10-2011 10:40 AM

I run a d4, and also ran a durango and a b44 as well.

sold the b44 and durango, so now you know how good these HB cars are.

No problem with parts. You can order from amainhobbies in the US. I was anticipating alot of broken front gear box cases, so ordered 10x, but so far no broken cases.

I dont have a problem with the WCE diffs. Its a nice solid car, I wish people would give it the respect it deserves. The car did well in the hands of the US and JAP team drivers.

mark christopher 08-10-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fastinfastout (Post 564052)
I run a d4, and also ran a durango and a b44 as well.

sold the b44 and durango, so now you know how good these HB cars are.

No problem with parts. You can order from amainhobbies in the US. I was anticipating alot of broken front gear box cases, so ordered 10x, but so far no broken cases.

I dont have a problem with the WCE diffs. Its a nice solid car, I wish people would give it the respect it deserves. The car did well in the hands of the US and JAP team drivers.

i know there good, as my post i had one for two years, there not as good as the current cars as they had no development, to say spares is ok as u can get them from the usa, well you can get spares for the easilly in the uk or trackside.
yup they were good in usa, japan on dirt tracks, but are we not in the uk?
at the time the top on top d4 driver/developer was adam skelding, now a top man at durango, enuff said....

russmini 08-10-2011 11:28 AM

Mark, i'm no wise ass as you call me.

But i certainly wouldn't reply to a thread with the answer you gave. What help was that exactly ?

If you could not actually help with proper advise, just don't bother.

As it is now you have given some advise, sort of, even though it was in retaliation to me.

Would have been nicer to just do that in the first case, don't you think.

Thought we were in the Off-Road section where everyone was chilled out more and helped out each other, not in the TC section where people seem to just have to be an ass.

David Church 08-10-2011 11:28 AM

Mark you troublemaker haha :p

mark christopher 08-10-2011 11:35 AM

Shut it church..... I'm just at Manchester airport boarding a 737,to ur home land lol

12-nitroman 08-10-2011 12:23 PM

thanks guys
 
thanks to the guys on the forums who gave advise and wanted to help out :D

daz 08-10-2011 12:55 PM

Ignore anything what Col tells you. He has to get his boyfriend to spanner his cars cos he is the bitch in the relationship, and is more accustomed to doing the more femine things, like cooking ironing etc.:D

quincey 08-10-2011 01:17 PM

Get the wce front arms they are stronger identified by a lot of plastic where the shocks bolt on, mine kept busting the front shock shafts at the bottom( bad driving) and also a lot of front gear cases where the shock mount bolts too- I've seen a d4 at oswerstry national with an alloy one! Don't know where he got it though.
My car was bomb proof apart from that and I ran 5.5 6.5 7.5 in it with no problems oh and make sure it's got serrated front wheel nuts as they have a tendency to come off,i only changed it because of the lack of trackside spares available I ended up buying a spare car

David Church 08-10-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 564076)
Shut it church..... I'm just at Manchester airport boarding a 737,to ur home land lol

Haha, good luck mate, I hope you enjoyed your breakfast!!!

I think what people are saying is the D-4 is not a popular car, not because it isnt good, but because it isnt supported over here.
You will get a good set up for this car but you may struggle to get spares.
So enjoy your off road RC experience, its by far the best class in the world!!!

Col 08-10-2011 07:21 PM

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81653

telboy 08-10-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quincey (Post 564125)
Get the wce front arms they are stronger identified by a lot of plastic where the shocks bolt on, mine kept busting the front shock shafts at the bottom( bad driving) and also a lot of front gear cases where the shock mount bolts too- I've seen a d4 at oswerstry national with an alloy one! Don't know where he got it though.
My car was bomb proof apart from that and I ran 5.5 6.5 7.5 in it with no problems oh and make sure it's got serrated front wheel nuts as they have a tendency to come off,i only changed it because of the lack of trackside spares available I ended up buying a spare car

The alloy one you saw was panch's, its a remodelled team car with a few revisions to the original car allowing it to accept geared diff. HPI do have spares so it may be worth contacting them and seeing if they can sell them to you or supply your local model shop with the parts you need. I've been running the D4 this year at nationals and made the F final at Os' with a standard (plastic gearbox) version. Way higher than I made with a Durango the previous year!
JEspares do have a light stock of D4 parts too, but if you can, find somewhere like amain and order bulk. Theyre cheap enough.

Shauns does have the WCE slipper and the strengthened diff bolts already so no need to buy those. :)

As for serated nuts. I've never run serated nuts on mine and never had a problem with them coming loose.
There does seem to be a few on here for sale recently, so it may be worth looking them up and possibly buying a spare car.

leelar 09-10-2011 04:55 PM

i only broke a front arm on mine i found them solid

markymark6183 11-10-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 564000)
The only real 'problem' I found when I had a D4 was HPI/HB and the lack of support. That was when it was still in production!
Never had any diff problems, and never really found the slipper an issue with either version (ran original and WCE versions) but I did find the front shock tower rather fragile. Beefing up the tower just meant it snapped front bulkheads instead. Since HPI rarely imported D4 spares, that meant a wait of several weeks for replacements.

If the car has a couple of spare front towers and bulkheads, its pretty much sorted. Although its now considered an older model, technically its based around the same platform as the B44 and is quite capable of competing with it.

Rumour has it the Caster SK10 is based off the D4 and D4 parts fit it. If this is true (and I can't say either way) then Caster spares might solve the D4 parts issues.

i have a caster sk10 and i'm using d4 parts as the caster one's i.e diffs, slipper are just pants !!!!


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