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coleman758 29-09-2011 08:45 AM

How's this for an idea!
 
Lately I've noticed that quite a lot of clubs are running team events. Teams within the club.

So how about we run some sort of team event?? Just a change front the normal Sunday meet. It would bee good for the club, and would bring everyone closer together!

Maybe a full day team endurance or something like? (11:00 - 4:00)

Thoughts people :) ???

Maddy 29-09-2011 03:30 PM

Like it,as long as there can be loads of banter :)

coleman758 29-09-2011 04:08 PM

With teams there would be no choice but to have loads of Banter!

The club has quite a few new members, it would be good to get them involved with the older members.

Maddy 29-09-2011 04:32 PM

Great idea,we can ask around on sunday an see whos up for it,maybe put a notice up asking people to put name down,when everybodys name is down i think it would be fair to pick names (out of the hat) in to teams,how many teams? get some really silly names for the teams, ie Lolliepop girls racing team,something different!!

coleman758 29-09-2011 06:20 PM

:thumbsup::thumbsup: That's the kind of thing i was thinking!

I'm surprised that only you have replied! I will run it past Roger and a few other guys on Sunday.

Moozo 29-09-2011 06:34 PM

not a member but could i still come along.........just the thought of lollipop girls and i'm there:woot::woot::woot:

Maddy 29-09-2011 06:42 PM

Cheerleading lollipop girls in mini skirts with white FMBs,
Think its a great idea Matt and maybe a Team Trophy at the end of the season, something to fight for?

captainlip 29-09-2011 06:47 PM

Ill team up with Matt, he can be my apprentice and he can learn from the master. :thumbsup:

teams of two would make a decentish number of teams, there could be a teams table.

cant make it this sunday though im booked for a train to scotland in the afternoon.

Si Coe 29-09-2011 06:59 PM

Keighley have run a few endurance meets, and with them no longer around we could pick up the baton I guess. Its been suggested before but not taken up - though the club had a very different membership then.

That said, having done some, I don't think its worth making the races too long. We did 4 hours, and frankly it was a bit too much - I reckon 2 is good enough to get some team action going.

Banter is however surprisingly limited. With 5 man teams, we found that 1 person is always driving, 1 marshaling, 1 ready to go out driving (immediately in case the one driving has a problem), 1 just come off and recharging/repairing etc leaves just one person not busy all the time......

Teams are pointless if you pick them though. They need to be balanced or it will just be a walkover.

captainlip 29-09-2011 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 560728)
Teams are pointless if you pick them though. They need to be balanced or it will just be a walkover.

Fear of durango dommination si? :thumbsup:

tisher 29-09-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by captainlip (Post 560733)
Fear of durango dommination si? :thumbsup:


unless the wheels.turnbuckles or anything else falls off:p

coleman758 29-09-2011 07:07 PM

Like Maddy said, We need to pick random teams. That's the most fair way to do it. I think it may even bring more people to the club.

If people fancy it i'm happy to organize it, I will speak to Roger and a few other guys on Sunday just to double check it ok to go ahead! but i can't see there being an issue.

We should do it with a few weeks notice to so we can get the maximum turnout!

Col 29-09-2011 07:11 PM

1 car teams (easier on race control - 1 transponder) mean a potentially destroyed car.
Teams running their own cars (harder work for race control) means racers can use their own cars and you can run longer races without fear of destroying them.

Which you thinking of?

Teeside used to run an endurance of 6 hours with teams of 8 using multiple cars per team . It was one of the best events I've ever been to.

Col 29-09-2011 07:12 PM

By the way...

If you want anyone other than club members to turn up you need months of planning and notice or no-one will be there!

Maddy 29-09-2011 07:13 PM

As said by matt (bringing members closer together) Team talk would be better as a newbie might be a little scared to ask someone how to set up his/her car.

coleman758 29-09-2011 07:14 PM

I was thinking running multiple cars, but each team gets assigned a club transponder for the day so it can easily be changed between cars.

Time wise it would be down to what people want to do. I would say 6-8 hours would be ideal. With teams of 5-6 (Depending on numbers)

captainlip 29-09-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Col (Post 560746)
By the way...

If you want anyone other than club members to turn up you need months of planning and notice or no-one will be there!

very true!

Oh and ill take powel as team mate. :thumbsup:

coleman758 29-09-2011 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 560746)
By the way...

If you want anyone other than club members to turn up you need months of planning and notice or no-one will be there!

That's about what i was thinking, It would give us enough time to get the word around. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

losichris 29-09-2011 07:19 PM

been to the club for the last 5 or 6 club meetings, this is a good idea.
seems that 30-40 racers turn up
which would make 1 truck, 1 under 16, 1 4wd, 2 2wd in each team??
so 5 or 6 teams spread over 6 heats?? instead of stressful endurance racing??

Andyp 29-09-2011 07:21 PM

teesside still do this col

they tend to only use one transponder per team so makes it ok on race control ,it has to be swapped between cars on the change over

as for picking the teams its usually team captains (usually juniors) take turns to pick a team member one at a time, bit llike how football teams were picked @ school.

coleman758 29-09-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by losichris (Post 560756)
been to the club for the last 5 or 6 club meetings, this is a good idea.
seems that 30-40 racers turn up
which would make 1 truck, 1 under 16, 1 4wd, 2 2wd in each team??
so 5 or 6 teams spread over 6 heats?? instead of stressful endurance racing??

Stressful :) no way!

It would actually just be like heats, but without the breaks in between!
ans you would still have to swap drivers every 5-7 mins anyway. So you would get loads more track time!

johnnygibbon 29-09-2011 07:32 PM

kieghtly formatt was the best big teams 10 min per car per person but 1 transponder
consistency is the key to endurance i did two at kieghthly they are bloody great fun
six per team thsts ten min per hour to race and ten for marshalling you sometmes get more when people crash but ya actually get more track time than a race day in the same amount of time. and the computer runs auto . teams get laps deducted for not marshalling . but always enjoyed em and the days went well .
the long track tme brings ya driving skill up as well ya learn to relax
batteries do last longer than ya think to 10 min easy on 3000s

Col 29-09-2011 07:39 PM

At the Ebor 24hr race (which is provisionally booked for 11/12 feb 2012 by the way...) we ran a B44 with a 8.5 running 22min between battery changes, 3 sets of batteries per driver then a driver swap. PT's were mandatory as a handout obviously wont last 24hrs...

If you're going to use handouts that's great. Keep the number of teams to less than 10 then both number 1's can be used on the same team. Once the race in underway the computer doesn't mind which colour it is, just the number.

coleman758 29-09-2011 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 560772)
At the Ebor 24hr race (which is provisionally booked for 11/12 feb 2012 by the way...) we ran a B44 with a 8.5 running 22min between battery changes, 3 sets of batteries per driver then a driver swap. PT's were mandatory as a handout obviously wont last 24hrs...

If you're going to use handouts that's great. Keep the number of teams to less than 10 then both number 1's can be used on the same team. Once the race in underway the computer doesn't mind which colour it is, just the number.

That's a great idea, so on can be charging as the other is in the car. :thumbsup:
10 teams should be more than enough.

Si Coe 29-09-2011 07:50 PM

Part of the point at Keighley was the need to transfer the transponder over - it made changeovers a 3 person affair though (one on, one off and one to switch the transponder over). We had 3 Bmax's in the team, and did talk about having 1 shell with the transponder mounted and swapped between chassis but didn't bother in the end.

One thing to remember about the time is that in order for the team to work all racers must be there virtually all the time. IE in a 6 hour race, you can't leave early. So its better to start with shorter events - as I said, the 4 hour ones were plenty long enough.
In fact, I should also point out that until we have power at the track, recharging is going to present an issue. We had problems at Keighley when we killed my 12V - another team had to retire when their genny died.

Marshalling is also an issue - should be 10 min stints, but I spent 30 mins out there because nobody came to replace me and we got disqualified if I left!

coleman758 29-09-2011 07:53 PM

Put plenty on juice in your cars!
Run the car for half hour every 2-3 hours?

But if you have 6-7 in a team that's 6-7 chargers. it shouldn't be an issue its not normally a problem on a normal day.

Howler 29-09-2011 08:37 PM

Yep, this sounds like fun. Mixed classes? Reckon my SCTE will still be running after everything else is a pile of spares... Not that I'd take anyone out :p

Col 29-09-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 560789)
Part of the point at Keighley was the need to transfer the transponder over - it made changeovers a 3 person affair though (one on, one off and one to switch the transponder over).

Si, I was more commenting on the battery life of the transponders than meaning running 2 at the same time.

Si Coe 29-09-2011 09:57 PM

They lasted a 4 hour race fine, with a 30 min halt when the loop died, and another 10 when Rob Mills knocked a marshal out!

Keighley just did 'run whatever' so I used 2 different 4wds and a truck, Johnny ran 4wd and truck, Rob 2wd and 4wd etc.

coleman758 29-09-2011 09:59 PM

Lets get it sorted then guys!

Il speak with a few of the Bury guys & Roger on Sunday and see where it goes from there!

budfish 29-09-2011 11:10 PM

Buds is in team lazer

Chris B 30-09-2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 560900)
Buds is in team lazer

I knew you wouldn't quit. Why have you gone back to one of those shit boxes? Lol

jameswilkinson7 30-09-2011 08:25 AM

I'd be interested in doing this too:thumbsup: We could probably get a team together from Keighley. :)

Whiskers 30-09-2011 02:50 PM

I've been waiting for a endurance race at Bury for a long time, count me in.

bandit 30-09-2011 04:43 PM

Team Antique here !

Maddy 30-09-2011 08:08 PM

Ill bring gazebo,BBQ equipment and make a top day of it,donations to the lollipop
girls racing team with white FMBs:thumbsup::thumbsup:

tisher 30-09-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 560900)
Buds is in team lazer


something you not telling us here Buds you have seen the LIGHT:D

coleman758 30-09-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddy (Post 561192)
Ill bring gazebo,BBQ equipment and make a top day of it,donations to the lollipop
girls racing team with white FMBs:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Sound like a plan!!

Fancy dress :)

Maddy 01-10-2011 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coleman758 (Post 561241)
Sound like a plan!!

Fancy dress :)

Its the white FMBs that does it for me :D

ironmangav 01-10-2011 06:45 PM

not been to bury been racing SC nationals this year but would be well up for a endurance event for sure.


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