Short Course
 

Who's got Short Course trucks?

Mark and I have just got a couple, so we'll get em built up and give them a spin at TORCH sometime.

Wondering if we could get enough for a heat?

Looked into getting one, i think RobW was on about it too iirc ??

Me to but not for a few months

was thinking about it..... a heat for them would sway me to a definate....

What short course truck to get
 

What short course truck would be the one to get

Which truck is the million dollar question... There's so many now, loads of 2wd and an increasing number of 4wd.

Personally I'm going 4wd, they seem a lot more stable on track, the 2wd's look a right handful.

The 4wd choices are:

Durango DESC410R
Losi TEN-SCTE
Associated SC10 4x4
Ansmann X4SC Pro
Hong Nor SCRT10

Mmm................ more money needed
Losi ten SCTE Floats my boat with Durango a close second.
Would you recommend a 550 or 540 size motor and what about the ESC would the 1/8 size be better or is there a lack of space?

Probably stumping for the ansmann as my other three cars are all ansmann too, just ease of parts etc.

Usual 1/10th ESC combo seems right, 6.5 ot 5.5T for the 4WD also seems the choice weapon.

The Tekin RX8 fits in the Desc410r: http://lutzinator.com/wp-content/upl...2/P1030580.jpg

I do like the look of the sc10 4X4

Sounds good guys, we've got a demo Losi and a demo Durango kit waiting to be built and we'll soon have a demo Associated too.

We'll get these up and running for ourselves to race and for people to have a go too.

Durango DESC410R £280
Losi TEN-SCTE £280
Associated SC10 4x4 £280
Ansmann X4SC Pro £180 !!

Re the Ansmann X4SC Pro - *very* limited availability , snap one up if you want one!

Re electrics, I hear that 'normal' 1/10th stuff works okay in short course, as long as you run fans on motor and speedo, and expect the motors to take a pounding!

I think that's the easier option to get people up and running.

1/8th setups are safer of course! But big, heavy, pricey, and you can't use them in your 10th cars!

edging towards the Durango now...... although i like all the US accesories and extra bits for the SC10 4x4.... its a pimping paradise! (sure they are all useless tho)

hummm power coated roll cage (red).....for adding weight and rasie the centre of gravity :woot: head-lights :woot: spot-lights....

so forgetting all the silly stuff to go with, I am definately interesting in a SC10 4x4, spent most the night watch U tube vids on the thing... looks great fun....

how many ppl do you need to have a heat? 4 or 5 ???

4 should be enough for a heat?

Can we have committee input on this?

Spoke to Steve about SC today and we are both very supportive of running a heat. Would need to be at least 4 though as otherwise marshalling the next heat starts to become a problem.

Would be good if you could get the cars down for a demo as I am sure that would be the best way to entice a couple of others to get one.

If you need a test driver, I'm available:thumbsup:

Rob

What about making it a one brand class? maybe even rtr?

My opinion only...
I am allways put off by RTR as i have never seen a stick version (I may be mistaken here), and also think its fun building them.... therefore being forced for RTR would put me off a little, and would end up stripping it down to re-build it anyway... brands in my opinion maybe too restrictive, and may also loose some personality... also this I would expect would restirct the class further too a smaller number of people, than being simply short course 1/10th.

short course
 

I was seriously thinking about getting a short course truck, but i really don't know what one to get!
Associated SC10 looks good but i think that is 2WD, (me and 2WD don't get on too well), Any ideas?

:confused:

Associated SC10 d a 4 wd drive version

Sold an SC10 4x4 to a club member today.

And we'll have 3 shop demonstrators: Durango, Losi, Associated

The Durango is obviously gonna be mine, and it's lurvely!

I'm excited!

Happy to see them running at TORCH, but I won't be in the market for one due to funds.

Clean rubbins racing ;)

:o:o

Say what now Mikey? You mean there is a car you are NOT going to buy :o

shocking, truly;)

There are many cars I won't purchase or haven't

Lionel

Whatever cars mike doesn't buy I usually make up for it, u need to see what I have in my garage :p

Yup, I bet, and yes, I think I do:thumbsup: lol.

or.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YHTE...eature=related


:thumbsup:

Dooh

https://picasaweb.google.com/1069797...eat=directlink

built/painted/finished... need better ESC and motor at some point...

Thanks for the go on yer truck on Sunday, it was AWESOME!

I'm really looking forward to racing these now.

My shells are away for painting, and the builds will continue. I'm aiming to get at least one up and running for Sunday 23rd.

No probs Simon... happy too...It was rather nice to have a taster, although it needs allot of tweaking I recon, I have been looking at some set-ups, and have made some changes. I have got it to run lower, and looking at the US set-ups and some of the UK ones, they do run low... (in some cases lower than buggies )

So I have dropped the suspension right down...
Added some mass at the front to get the car into balance, it was right hand and rear heavy...
I have also cut some of the option holes in the rear of the body to stop parachuting...
Also replaced the little tiny SP LPF speedo with the RX8 and Tekin 5.5sc4x motor... (it should fly now!)
Looking to change the springs, but want to try this a little first...

So if you fancy another comparable go this Sunday, then I will try it after.... recon it should be better...

Just looking for electrics on this, would Torch limit us to 2S or 3S lipos in the SC trucks ???

Given none of the committee run SC and we haven't had any heats yet, probably not appropriate for us to set rules yet.

Be good if the SC drivers could come to some sort of agreement between themselves. Don't know how popular these are going to be but if it is only one heat then you want to be running similar performance for maximum fun?

Rob

I have to agree with Rob as I've never raced a SC, never looked at one and to be honest don't plan to.

Simon from RC Lazy might be best to advise?

It would be nice to have some base rules as for those of us who are looking to buy kit, we don't want to buy the wrong stuff only to have to replace it later at an expense to ourselves as the rules won't there when we bought it...

Short course nationals rules ???

1. General Rules
   1. All cars to represent full size short course trucks
   2. Classes - This series is open to all 1/10th Scale 2wd and 4wd Short Course Trucks
   3. Tyres - Only specific 1/10th short course tyre allowed (2.2” outer bead and 3.0” inner bead). No converted 1/8th buggy wheels.
   4. Body - Only 1/10th short course bodies allowed, with enclosed wheel arches, minimum cut outs and be a true representation of the full size vehicle.
   5. Motor – Brushed or brushless motors allowed either 540 or 550 size.
   6. Batteries - 7.2 volt MiMH or NiCd or 2 cell lipo maximum allowed. Lipo batteries to be charged in a Lipo charging sack.
   7. Bumpers - SCT style front and rear bumpers must be fitted in lines with existing manufacturers trucks
   8. General Construction – car must be constructed / design not to cause personal injury. E.g. no sharp edges, enclosed gears, bumpers to be suitable material such as plastic or rubber.
   9. Speed Controller - Speed controllers with reverse will be allowed, but penalties will be given for incorrect use (see rule 3.4)
2. Entry
   1. Entry will via this web site or booking in on the day. Priority will always be given to drivers that have pre-booked should a meeting entry be at its maximum.
   2. The entry fee of £5.00 per round per class must be paid on booking in.
   3. Drivers who pre-book but fail to turn up to the meeting without notifying the organisers, may be required to pre-pay to secure their place at future rounds of the series.
3. Race Rules
   1. Marshalling Requirements
      1. All drivers are required to marshal the race following their own or to agree a substitute with race control.
      2. All marshals to be BRCA members.
      3. Marshals to remain at their posts until replaced
      4. All Marshals to wear a high visibility vest while on the track.
   2. Race Format
      1. All races to be 5 minute duration (plus an allowance for their last lap).
      2. Starts will be based on a grid style. The first round will be determined randomly. The grid position for subsequent rounds will be determined as per BRCA 10th off road rules, based on your finishing position from the previous heat.
      3. Four round of qualifying plus finals for all drivers attending the meeting (weather and time permitting, if 2 rounds of qualifying are completed then the round will count towards the series, if less than 2 round completed and the meeting can’t be rearranged the required number of rounds for the series will be reduced).
      4. Round by round qualifying to be used (2 rounds to count).
      5. Series to be best 5 rounds out of 7 with count back in the event of a tie and for each round 100 available for both qualifying and finals giving a maximum points for each round of 200.
   3. Timing Timing will be with AMB equipment, Personal transponders are recommended although some clubs will have handout transponders available.
   4. Penalties It’s the aim to keep the series a fun and safe event to enter, but penalties will be issued at the race director’s discretion for T-boning, driving the wrong way round the track etc. This will be explained further at the drivers briefing.

certainly this is what I would expect to run too......


http://www.ukshortcourse.com/rules.html if anyone wants to look at the website to which it comes from...

If you want to play safe I'd suggest 2 cell lipo and either 540 or 550 motors in line with the national rules Steve posted above.

Having said that, I can't see us turning anyone away because they have the "wrong" equipment given we currently have no drivers at all racing SC.

Little point us setting rules for a class that no-one wants to race though, hence my thought that potential SC racers might want to have some say on the matter??

Rob

Cool, have ordered my ESC and motor (7.5T 550 size) etc and it will take upto 4 cell lipo so should be enough :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

We have a request on the Winter Series thread for a SC heat. We need an absolute minimum of 4 to run a heat and even that is a little difficult for next heat marshalling but given it is a new class we obviously need to help it along.

So how many would be ready for the 30th Oct meeting?

Rob