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le_sam 31-08-2011 02:48 PM

rb5 mid carbon prototype
 
this is a mid conversion based on the MCS
chassis is 9mm longer.
cheap cutting but good enough for prototypes...
now i'm waiting for the alloy gearboxes and other pieces like motor plates...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._7922917_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._3336703_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...1_381741_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._5801609_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...6_369792_n.jpg

now i can update the pieces to change some details :
-chassis design to fit perfectly the Vega body (but i'll try others before)
-battery strap (if the motor touch the right one when on the motor-plate+bigger holes)
-rear shocks tower to be used with or without arm holder (like MCS or like Vega)

....

The Chef 31-08-2011 06:32 PM

Looking very nice. What does it drive like?

le_sam 31-08-2011 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chef (Post 547437)
Looking very nice. What does it drive like?

good question!... we don't know!
but we think very good. like an C4.1?! :D
it's gonna be reversible (usable with the Kyosho gearbox/rear motor).
so, it seems that the first tests will be with the rear motor configuration.

this is some low-cost prototypes we'll run for tests in races, on different surfaces.
we're located in France, where are many dirty/bumpy tracks, often shared with/destructed by 1/8. that's why we do this longer chassis.
also, lighter than the MCS, reversible and cheaper for us.
60€/carbone kit.
it need few other pieces we're doing, step by step...
more pics when the rear motor configuration will be finished, or if the alloy gearbox is ready.

le_sam 01-09-2011 02:32 AM

4.30 AM... time is going fast when you work with passion:bored:

the rear motor configuration, not finished.

long pack and T-saddle are able too.

the ESC is a fake (burnt), it's just to show one of the configuration.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._6583108_n.jpg

le_sam 05-09-2011 05:12 PM

rear motor RT5 configuration.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._6176828_n.jpg

i'll design some new shocks towers, specially the rear for the mid version.
i'm still waiting for the mid alloy gearboxes...

coleman758 05-09-2011 10:07 PM

Will you gearbox fit in the normal MCS?

le_sam 05-09-2011 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coleman758 (Post 549808)
Will you gearbox fit in the normal MCS?

yes.
i do that for my MCS first.
that's the most difficult step.
then i've asked myself for doing other kits for friends & me...

le_sam 07-09-2011 05:37 PM

first test on sleepy track (wet outdoor-carpet) with the rear motor configuration :
i can't believe how easy-to-drive it was!!
with the stock RB5 SP set-up (realy close)

the (old) body is a Proline for RB5 (vortex!?)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...36390071_n.jpg

i love it :wub
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...71717206_n.jpg

now, few days before the mid-gearbox, it's hard to wait sometime...

le_sam 10-09-2011 11:53 AM

rear-motor dirt/dust tests :
we try it @ the older club in France.
this one (but dry today) :
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1389464_n.jpg

it was very impressive, easy AND fast!
i can't wait for an indoor race to test the mid configuration! (but i will, till the gearbox is not ready, lol!)

next step : races...

bye!

tsan 12-09-2011 01:50 PM

Video please!
Car looks great, Sam.:thumbsup:

le_sam 18-09-2011 12:44 AM

RB5 (rear motor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvvherZSsCY

few seconds with the RT5 (the only vid' i have :bored:)
http://www.youtube.com/user/lesamtra.../2/Z6VcmaVyh2I

le_sam 22-09-2011 08:13 AM

Hi,

step by step the mid version is built.
here is what it will look like

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...99249814_n.jpg

coleman758 22-09-2011 06:12 PM

That looks bloody good!!

le_sam 28-09-2011 12:10 AM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...15275590_n.jpg

RB5 FT mid motor 3D animation

Dufty07 28-09-2011 03:43 PM

wow
 
Lookin very nice sam:thumbsup:

alana07 25-10-2011 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by le_sam (Post 547595)
4.30 AM... time is going fast when you work with passion:bored:

the rear motor configuration, not finished.

long pack and T-saddle are able too.

the ESC is a fake (burnt), it's just to show one of the configuration.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._6583108_n.jpg

so how's the developments going for this chassis now?

le_sam 25-10-2011 09:17 AM

hello,

two cars are running on the rear-motor configuration.
we have a race this week-end, so it's gonna be the first real test.
(I've made a race before but not prepared and totaly failed)
the Small alloy columns are under construction and i wait for an estimate of the carbon parts.
so the rear version will be soon available.

but...
it's "carpet time" and the first goal is a mid version.
I'm waiting for the mid-gearbox, I depend of the manufacturer(s).
the motor-plate is under construction.
i must also resolve the problem of small alloy parts (like back reinforcement supports)

i keep in touch...

captainlip 27-10-2011 12:47 PM

mid motor is the only way to go!

watch coleman he will be getting itchy fingers with his money with all that carbon flying about.

alana07 27-10-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by le_sam (Post 572297)
hello,

two cars are running on the rear-motor configuration.
we have a race this week-end, so it's gonna be the first real test.
(I've made a race before but not prepared and totaly failed)
the Small alloy columns are under construction and i wait for an estimate of the carbon parts.
so the rear version will be soon available.

but...
it's "carpet time" and the first goal is a mid version.
I'm waiting for the mid-gearbox, I depend of the manufacturer(s).
the motor-plate is under construction.
i must also resolve the problem of small alloy parts (like back reinforcement supports)

i keep in touch...

is your test this weekend on a dirt track? hope it turns out very well for you. is the rear motor version going to have a long wheelbase design or will it be a normal kit wheelbase version?

keep updating us on your progress here.....:thumbsup:

le_sam 27-10-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alana07 (Post 573402)
is your test this weekend on a dirt track? hope it turns out very well for you. is the rear motor version going to have a long wheelbase design or will it be a normal kit wheelbase version?

keep updating us on your progress here.....:thumbsup:

hello,

this week-end it's an indoor race with carpet track.
and some good drivers.
it's gonna be difficult with the rear motor and the long wheel base (yes, it did, for both rear and mid position : +9mm)
but we'll try to be not ridiculous.

i have the first motor-plate in my hands : 3mm/14g and fit well on the MCS.
and the carbon manufacturer is chosen. it will be made in U.K. :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

bye!

le_sam 28-10-2011 07:19 PM

we're ready for this week-end

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...77734724_n.jpg

le_sam 31-10-2011 10:57 PM

Arnaud Vialle and is prototype, 2nd at Bosdarros for is first 4x2 race!
he already love it!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...59683344_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...05448850_n.jpg


MCS gearbox received : one proto can run on mid motor for the "Coupe des Champions" in two weeks.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...51407585_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...62859412_n.jpg

alana07 01-11-2011 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by le_sam (Post 575381)
Arnaud Vialle and is prototype, 2nd at Bosdarros for is first 4x2 race!
he already love it!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...59683344_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...05448850_n.jpg


MCS gearbox received : one proto can run on mid motor for the "Coupe des Champions" in two weeks.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...51407585_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...62859412_n.jpg

so how's the testing for the weekend going? are the results to your expectations, especially the rear motor chassis with the saddle battery config?

le_sam 01-11-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alana07 (Post 575450)
so how's the testing for the weekend going? are the results to your expectations, especially the rear motor chassis with the saddle battery config?

Pretty good!

Arnaud has just cutted some spikes on the tyres and never touch again is car all the day!:lol:
i've just changed the springs, cutted spikes and 'open' (did you say that in english?) the front wheels.
then, they could be faster with a little work, i think! :D

prototypes made good impression with the other drivers on the track, some are interested and are waiting for the production.

for the carpet we've moved forward the saddle (14mm) and it's working great.
I am impatient to see the mid competing!

for the expectations :
in fact it was the first Arnaud's 2wd race and i know he's a good driver but I didn't have expected this! :thumbsup:
There is always good local drivers in this race and it's for it that we've made the trip.
the best place i've made at this area was 4th (with the MCS, in february) and i do the same with the rear motor. i'm simply surprised. :D

i've seen someone filming a final , i hope i can find the vid'...

the next round is a national one. i know that 4wd are full and 2wd almost.
so, a lot of people expected.
I'm under pressure... but what can happen?! rock'n'roll!! :cool:

bye!

alana07 02-11-2011 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by le_sam (Post 575526)
Pretty good!

Arnaud has just cutted some spikes on the tyres and never touch again is car all the day!:lol:
i've just changed the springs, cutted spikes and 'open' (did you say that in english?) the front wheels.
then, they could be faster with a little work, i think! :D

prototypes made good impression with the other drivers on the track, some are interested and are waiting for the production.

for the carpet we've moved forward the saddle (14mm) and it's working great.
I am impatient to see the mid competing!

for the expectations :
in fact it was the first Arnaud's 2wd race and i know he's a good driver but I didn't have expected this! :thumbsup:
There is always good local drivers in this race and it's for it that we've made the trip.
the best place i've made at this area was 4th (with the MCS, in february) and i do the same with the rear motor. i'm simply surprised. :D

i've seen someone filming a final , i hope i can find the vid'...

the next round is a national one. i know that 4wd are full and 2wd almost.
so, a lot of people expected.
I'm under pressure... but what can happen?! rock'n'roll!! :cool:

bye!

souds good from your testing results....i'm certainly looking forward to the production rear motor version.

le_sam 03-11-2011 11:11 AM

Hi,

some pics...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...63490972_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...04952224_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...59598775_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...20484391_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...02580210_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...64786079_n.jpg

bye!

le_sam 03-11-2011 05:52 PM

carbon pieces will be made in a few weeks, & by Atomic Carbon!

columns : 2,9gr/pc
motor plates : 14gr/pc
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...90669774_n.jpg

alana07 04-11-2011 06:54 AM

good one for your there Sam, to have gotten f*&%king OldTimer to do your carbon parts....quality of his work cant be doubted.:thumbsup:

le_sam 04-11-2011 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alana07 (Post 577084)
good one for your there Sam, to have gotten f*&%king OldTimer to do your carbon parts....quality of his work cant be doubted.:thumbsup:

for sure!
the best way for quality carbon, serious work & money too!
big thanks to them!


i'm ready for Loos, near Belgium, with a Vega shell :
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...47322881_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...87276300_n.jpg

i like the differents bodies it can fit with.
perhaps our own models if we work well, but it's a new domain for us.

the last part will be the gearbox i think, but because I try to do it in France :bored:
it's not the best country for creations... except if you've got a lot of time and money to spend! :D

an address for a good CNC in U.K.? Team Xtrem? lol!
i'm joking but in fact if someone knows a good one, I take!
nothing's impossible here but I think that's better in U.K., for exemple :yawn:

bye!

alana07 08-11-2011 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by le_sam (Post 577130)
... except if you've got a lot of time and money to spend! :D

+1 on these, especially the last item which is an ultra rare commodity these days...:woot::thumbsup::D

le_sam 09-11-2011 08:38 PM

Hi,

I think I've found a manufacturer :thumbsup:

perhaps gearboxes will be available in one month.
I wait 10 days for the 3D printed prototype.

another shell, the Puma by FTW (Cougar's body) :

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...13327844_n.jpg

I like the different bodies it can be fitted.
the one I prefere is the Bulldog (rear motor).
why not ask Proline if they're interested (or think about) to make a Bulldog shell for the Cougar (thus mine too!! :D)

bye!

le_sam 14-11-2011 08:46 AM

results of the week-end at the Coupe des Champions (Neuville, France)

JC & me : Q26 & 28. final : 28 & 27 (our goal was C final, done!)
Arnaud : Q18, final : 18!

first national race and first run with the kit for JC.
on mine, i've just change the rear tires this week-end. nothing else since the last race for this car, 2 weeks ago!
second 2wd race and first run with the mid prototype for Arnaud with great laps! he broke a rear wheel shaft in Q 4th , the only problem of the WE for the team.

Arnaud's mid
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...93627490_n.jpg

Jean-Christophe's rear motor
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...03880960_n.jpg

mine
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...15223604_n.jpg

and the last news :
if i can find funds for the mould, the gearbox could be made in magnesium!
the prototype arrives on wednesday.

alana07 16-11-2011 02:22 AM

JC's and your rear motor chassis is more interesting....with that undertray fitted, which bodyshell currently on the market fits nicely to that tray? so any idea how much this rear motor chassis's gonna costs us? thanks sam...:thumbsup:

le_sam 16-11-2011 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alana07 (Post 582631)
JC's and your rear motor chassis is more interesting....with that undertray fitted, which bodyshell currently on the market fits nicely to that tray? so any idea how much this rear motor chassis's gonna costs us? thanks sam...:thumbsup:

Hello!

I've calculated 139€+shipping for the "FT rear motor basic" first...
but now, I know that I'm going to sell it 125€ + shipping ;) :thumbsup:

we use the Cougar undertray (with special cuts) and many RB5 bodies fit it well for exemple.
the one i prefer is the Proline RB5 Bulldog!
we fix it with scratch and/or with the rear saddle clips. I still have a Proline Vortex too (no more produced)

with the mid, all Cougar's bodies are good but need the undertray to fit well : Phat bodies, FTW, ... and perhaps a Bulldog one in 2012!? :rolleyes:

and for MCS owners :
the frame can receive the MCS gearbox, it's only missing the two reinforcement holders to complete it

I will made a 'special tips page' with pictures in few days to show all what is possible with this fantastic kit ;)

have a good day, bye!

le_sam 16-11-2011 06:19 PM

the prototype is arrived, the gearbox will be nice...


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...72681036_n.jpg


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...98673799_n.jpg

le_sam 17-11-2011 04:23 PM

edit

le_sam 22-11-2011 11:55 AM

http://media.automodelisme.com/2011R...DSCF1107-M.jpg
http://media.automodelisme.com/2011R...DSCF1077-M.jpg

http://media.automodelisme.com/2011R...DSCF1101-M.jpg

the new shock towers :
http://media.automodelisme.com/2011R...DSCF1079-M.jpg

le_sam 24-11-2011 06:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQZnT...layer_embedded

coleman758 24-11-2011 07:04 PM

That looks nice, What money are you looking at?

Also, Maybe you need to have a think about the name! FT?? I'm sure thats part of another well know brand :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by le_sam (Post 583236)
kit FT rear motor in stock! :thumbsup:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...12808287_n.jpg


captainlip 24-11-2011 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coleman758 (Post 586512)
That looks nice, What money are you looking at?

Also, Maybe you need to have a think about the name! FT?? I'm sure thats part of another well know brand :lol:


save your money for a real mans buggy.....mp9e :thumbsup:


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