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smarkham 21-08-2011 06:41 PM

Smarkhams paint
 
Well here are my first 2 shells. I painted about 5 shells over 10 years ago before I gave up racing. Now im back racing thought I better have another go at painting. First one is a bit shabby but the second is getting there. Bought a gravity fed brush and a shed load of paints yesterday from rcs Jonmiller so there will be pleanty more to come :thumbsup:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._8179494_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._4484675_n.jpg

eyeayen 21-08-2011 08:41 PM

Good shape to your flames ! Nice job !

smarkham 21-08-2011 08:57 PM

Cheers I did cheat with them I had some old xxx main masks that had been sat in my loft so used those.

U1timate PigDog 22-08-2011 10:33 AM

Looking good :thumbsup:

jonmiller 22-08-2011 11:37 AM

lookin good buddy

glad to be of service


:)

smarkham 01-09-2011 12:54 PM

Pitboard painted with just a stencil and transparent createx paints :thumbsup:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...8_494714_n.jpg

jonmiller 01-09-2011 04:04 PM

sweet, liking it bud

:thumbsup:

U1timate PigDog 01-09-2011 06:21 PM

Very nice, looking good.

smarkham 12-09-2011 07:22 PM

Thanks for the comments :) Heres my first go on lexan with the createx


http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...54586296_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...17143615_n.jpg

smarkham 17-09-2011 06:48 PM

Painted this one today for the same guy as the last one
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...66214573_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...62283693_n.jpg

eyeayen 17-09-2011 07:09 PM

I prefer the design on the newer one with the symmetry ! Looks better.

Good colours too. You should get some of the Faskolor glitter stuff, you can get Faswhite glitter I think, would look ace with the other colours against it !

smarkham 17-09-2011 07:19 PM

Cheers I did think about doing it with pearl white. Looks better in the flesh though cant capture all you colours that well using my phone.

eyeayen 17-09-2011 07:46 PM

Photography is the painters enemy ! :thumbdown:

If I ever find a camera that can capture the deepness of candies, the brightness of neon's and the detail when you have bright contrasting colours together I'll be sure to let you all know :lol:

The Chef 17-09-2011 10:05 PM

Cameras can capture it in natural sunlight or you need multiple flashes around the subject to lift the image's. Give the depths and colours. The problem with capturing it is the kit is very expensive.:thumbdown:

U1timate PigDog 18-09-2011 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeayen (Post 555089)
I prefer the design on the newer one with the symmetry ! Looks better.

Good colours too. You should get some of the Faskolor glitter stuff, you can get Faswhite glitter I think, would look ace with the other colours against it !


+1 This one looks much nicer, I don't think you did a bad job on the other but the symetrical design just seems to work better. Looks really nice and bright.

Good Job:thumbsup:

smarkham 01-10-2011 09:41 PM

Cheers for the comments guys heres another one for you. :thumbsup: Same paint but with the purple ond orange reversed.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...44569531_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...29914017_n.jpg

jonmiller 01-10-2011 11:09 PM

hey buddy, how you getting on since we spoke mate?

smarkham 01-10-2011 11:14 PM

Hi Jon sealing it works fine mate stops it scratching off thanks for your help :thumbsup:

eyeayen 02-10-2011 09:12 AM

The shadow on the orange looks too dark :( Or maybe you've done over the back of it with the purple ?

To get more subtle shadows try using a red to shade it or if you mix it and don't think it's dark enough try just putting a spot of brown or black in it and I mean a tiny spot, you can always add more but too much and you'll kill the original colour. That would shade better I think, that's just my opinion though.

If it is the purple bleeding through, next time back the orange with white before you do the purple, it should keep it's vibrancy then.

Anyway... I don't know how you intended the design to look so I'll get me coat now.

smarkham 02-10-2011 09:23 AM

Hi eyeayen its black shading he just saked me to copy the last one but reversing the purple and orange. I agree though something a tad lighter than black would have looked better. Still a massive learing curve for me a the mo. :)

U1timate PigDog 02-10-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by smarkham (Post 561613)
Hi eyeayen its black shading he just saked me to copy the last one but reversing the purple and orange. I agree though something a tad lighter than black would have looked better. Still a massive learing curve for me a the mo. :)


Yea its a touch dark on the shadow a mixture of deep red and orange might of worked well but I still think it looks pretty good, tho I do prefer the original colour design you did but you seem to be get good at this design :D

Keep the work coming.

eyeayen 02-10-2011 10:55 AM

I think you need to talk the customer around as you're the one wielding the airbrush and they're the one asking for your expertise ! Also you need to ask them do they want it black and orange fade or do you want it to look like a shadow, if it's a shadow try and use a darker colour in the same spectrum, so orange would need a red / brown over it to darken it, yellow would need a yellow/orange mix or a yellow brown mix etc etc.

The designs you are doing are cool, I just think if you made it look more like a shadow than a painted colour it would give it that extra depth and bring it onto the next level.

A lot about all this is explaining to the customer that something else might look better on their design than the colours they've chosen. I don't mean completely change it, just to give it that little extra, and once it's done and they've seen it they'll understand.

smarkham 03-10-2011 08:44 PM

Painted this one for myself today. Its actually purple not blue but my phone gets confused with the pearl effect i think lol. :)


http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...71984060_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...10554406_n.jpg

jonmiller 03-10-2011 09:20 PM

looks really good buddy.

if you had a more realistic drop shadow on the flames i think it would have looked even better. or a pinstripe maybe.

smarkham 03-10-2011 09:36 PM

Cheers Jon. I wanted a pinstripe and shadow drops but its still a bit beyond me at the moment. Im not using liquid mask yet so it can only get better.

RogerM 04-10-2011 06:53 AM

That is looking really good mate, looking forward to seeing it for real if I ever make it back to the TC club.

Seems to me your improving hugely with each one (and you weren't to shabby to start with!)

eyeayen 04-10-2011 09:48 AM

Get some Liquid Mask, it will turn things around for you !

White or Red pin lines would look ace with that !

Nice job !

cyclonetog 06-10-2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeayen (Post 561629)
I think you need to talk the customer around as you're the one wielding the airbrush and they're the one asking for your expertise !

*waves*

That's not exactly the way it's going down. I'm running smarkhams paint because Stu is happy to do it and I'm happy to help get his name out there...

I can paint too, sort of...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5110/...3ec7e680_b.jpg
(My) Hot BodiesTCX by cyclone5, on Flickr

...but if Stu wants to practice on my shells that's fine by me, saves me a job :thumbsup:

Also I don't have any purple paint lol.

eyeayen 06-10-2011 08:26 PM

I'm not knocking Stu's paint by any means, I just think if he had some liquid mask it would take it to the next level, he's clearly got talent.

Likewise I've liked the way he's painting the shells he's posted I just didn't think the black and orange went as well as his previous attempts so thought I'd offer some friendly advice...

smarkham 06-10-2011 08:35 PM

Cheers all im new to all this so im very open to suggestions and pointers to help me along the way. I enjoy painting and thats why i do it if it turns into a chore I will probably stop and just paint shells for myself and close friends. Merv you have helped me no end with the setup of my car since I got back into racing painting your shells is the least I can do :thumbsup:

cyclonetog 06-10-2011 08:36 PM

@eyeayen From the half hour phone call at the weekend I can assure you you're right, the last job didn't go as well as the previous job!

The way I've been driving the last few weeks the shell won't last long anyway :D

smarkham 06-10-2011 08:41 PM

:D:D:D Yeah had a bit of a mare with the black overspray to start with and ended up stripping the shell and starting again after pooing my pants thinking I had trashed the shell. Didnt do too bad a job at recovering what looked like a total loss.

smarkham 07-10-2011 03:31 PM

Some better pics of my latest for you all now its mounted and with a proper camera so it doesnt look blue.


http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...81790326_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...18347764_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...32812661_n.jpg

eyeayen 07-10-2011 06:57 PM

Those photo's have come out well, show it all off nicely !

smarkham 31-10-2011 12:26 PM

First go at pinstripe was all done with masking tape and spray cans pretty happy with the result. :thumbsup:
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...86117801_n.jpg

eyeayen 31-10-2011 02:04 PM

I love limited colour palettes, that looks ace ! Good job with rattle cans too !

Nice neat masking, you've done well :thumbsup:

smarkham 31-10-2011 03:01 PM

Thanks Im starting to learn simple is better sometimes :thumbsup:

smarkham 01-11-2011 10:07 PM

Tried some transparent red on this but the floro orange blocked it out any tips ?
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...72819630_n.jpg

eyeayen 02-11-2011 08:49 AM

Transparent colours are tricky to judge. Essentially what should have happened is you got a very unique bright red. I can't really tell from the photo's though. When backing transparents sparkly colours work best, silvers or golds give that 'American Hot Rod / Candy' look, a dark pink or red will give a colour depth that you can fall into because of the transparent.

I've had success using Pearl White, it needs to be quite a sparkly one though and on the brighter side not the yellowy ones, it also gives the best colour as obviously it's white. Sometimes using a straight white is good too as it gives a real intense colour that you wouldn't get using a straight colour the same.

Fluorescent colours are a bit tricky to work with for special effects. You said the fluro blocked it out, there are a few things it could be. The colours are 2 similar, or maybe it wasn't quite dense enough and has just got lost with the amount of Fluro you've had to build up. Sorry I'm actually not understanding if you've covered the entire orange / red area with the transparent colour or you've just tried a fade on the edge ? It's just a practice thing really.

What you're trying to do is cool, practice on off cuts of lexan though rather than doing it live on the actual body as if it doesn't work on an off cut it's no bother and you can spend time in perfecting it, just work on a small piece each time, this way you have perfect colour samples to show customers and if it comes out hideously you can just bin it, then customers don't ever need to know, unfortunately doing it live on a shell doesn't have the advantage of being able to hide anything that goes the shape of the pear.

The shell looks fine to me, a pinline between the colours would have been nice to see, black is obvious but would have picked it out, or you could have gone for maybe a metallic blue or a gold ?

smarkham 02-11-2011 09:28 AM

Cheers for the info. I was trying a drop shadow on the orange with a pretty dark red It looked really good to start with but the more orang I built up the less define it became.


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