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RCPhil 19-08-2011 07:03 PM

Is this the greatest RC track ever?
 
Have a look at this one chaps.

This is an AMAZING track.:thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Ik14MrVFTrU

TJP 19-08-2011 07:11 PM

Love it...

smokedsalmonkid 19-08-2011 08:50 PM

shocking surface poorly spaced out jumps whats there to like about that track i don't get it

#runs

c0sie 19-08-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smokedsalmonkid (Post 542434)
shocking surface poorly spaced out jumps whats there to like about that track i don't get it

#runs

Agree..

DavidAMS 19-08-2011 09:07 PM

re
 
awesome driving there by adam :thumbsup:

RCPhil 19-08-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokedsalmonkid (Post 542434)
shocking surface poorly spaced out jumps whats there to like about that track i don't get it

#runs

It looks fun.

I'm sure thats why we have this hobby.......?

Mav 19-08-2011 10:00 PM

That looks nuts, no good for nitro though

RCPhil 20-08-2011 04:33 PM

No, deffo an electric track. Those 8th brushless buggies really go!

terry.sc 20-08-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 542460)
That looks nuts, no good for nitro though

It is a nitro track - it's Nitromania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkBW15qrEZ4

staticvandal 21-08-2011 06:15 PM

hmmmm! not feeling that one:thumbdown:, not exactly flowing is it.

peetbee 21-08-2011 06:31 PM

What is the appeal of those vertical 'jumps' that form both the up and down ramp in one?
Not a track I'd like to run on tbh

RCPhil 21-08-2011 08:36 PM

Ok. I liked that one. Prove me wrong with your suggestions.
Show me others and say why.

mugenmark 22-08-2011 07:08 AM

you got lovely tracks all a round the area,why dont you go and take a look before you astro turf the coner,astro roll here you come,why not phone up a chairman of another club,electric car weigh less and jump different from nitro,if you took your hyper round the coruse on the video your destory it,look at the uk tracks,not the usa,it a different way of racing ie expensive high reving enignes and long straights,thought you wanted a 1/8th track like it says on club website?does adam drake use a pullstart?

staticvandal 22-08-2011 09:32 AM

I like this little compact flowing track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUqFF8DCgE8, its got everything squeezed into a relatively small area whilst still being fairly quick and still having plenty of overtaking opportunity. I reckon this would make a great SC track:thumbsup:.

By the way I could be wrong, but I thought Nitromania was an event not a Track. I shall try and find out more info.

mugenmark 22-08-2011 10:50 AM

that a lot better example,but as you see it cut in the earth,so you get the gradients,which make the track so much better,than the on top of the earth tracks,but take a lot more work to build and a lot more maintence.but that more like a good track,why not look at coventy and westmill,your only down the road from clanfields,if you want to put on races see what outher people expect and what they pay for at a weekend?and if you want a brac track ask them about the legal track lenght ect

have you seen the free lap software,you just push the number on the laptop every time you go past,it could get you lot started till you get the funds for the my laps kit.


this banger racing,,,thats what you mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdUYqRKHZfc

if you got a hall why not do 1/10th at least your learn set up and steering skills,if that banger racing,how you work out the winner,get some cheap 1/10th ,banger racing looks like a one shot wonder

RCPhil 22-08-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugenmark (Post 543367)
you got lovely tracks all a round the area,why dont you go and take a look before you astro turf the coner,astro roll here you come,why not phone up a chairman of another club,electric car weigh less and jump different from nitro,if you took your hyper round the coruse on the video your destory it,look at the uk tracks,not the usa,it a different way of racing ie expensive high reving enignes and long straights,thought you wanted a 1/8th track like it says on club website?does adam drake use a pullstart?

I only said I liked it, I didn't say I was going to build it!!

mugenmark 22-08-2011 12:30 PM

the point is,you got tracks in the area,why not see how they do thing and why,instaed of building something and constanley changing it,utube great ,for ideas,but if you want to get people paying to race{or you got the £3000 for the timeing gear} then they wont be back,if you can offer them the same kind of experence?it say on the website we want to build a 1/8th track ect,well get the rules for the track from the brac and then your get the 80,90 people a meet,that £400 plus to help maintain the track,buy the timing stuff,if you got the space keep collecting astro truf and build a astro track as well,when it wet astro great saves banger racing in halls,no 2 hours cleaning when you get home,go look at what a round because you either want trick jumps on a track or a race track.if you aint looking at westfield ,they can make 3 different courses out of there drit track,phone the chairman up,get some info,people in rc are easy to talk to

staticvandal 22-08-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mugenmark (Post 543458)
that a lot better example,but as you see it cut in the earth,so you get the gradients,which make the track so much better,than the on top of the earth tracks,but take a lot more work to build and a lot more maintence.but that more like a good track,why not look at coventy and westmill,your only down the road from clanfields,if you want to put on races see what outher people expect and what they pay for at a weekend?and if you want a brac track ask them about the legal track lenght etc

have you seen the free lap software,you just push the number on the laptop every time you go past,it could get you lot started till you get the funds for the my laps kit.


this banger racing,,,thats what you mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdUYqRKHZfc

if you got a hall why not do 1/10th at least your learn set up and steering skills,if that banger racing,how you work out the winner,get some cheap 1/10th ,banger racing looks like a one shot wonder

The idea has always been to shape the ground, we just have to be careful of depth because we don't want the track flooding everytime we have rain:cry:, so there may need to be some compromises. We are not short of ideas for how to lay the track out, in fact the course has already been designed and approved by the committee, it also conforms to BRCA standards so no need to worry about that:thumbsup:.

We already have the free laps software and will be using it, although I have already started to think about funding for timing equipment.

Support has so far been in favour of Banger / Stock Car racing this winter, I think members like the idea of something a bit different over the colder months. The winner is decided by lap count the same as other RC races and on occasion last man standing such as Destruction Derby. I know it won't be to everyone's taste and that's why I asked for people to comment in another thread. If people wanted to go 1/10 I am sure they would suggest it, If that is what you would like to do why not post it on the "winter racing" thread. However, the cost for setting up 1/10 will obviously be higher and require more room but I am happy to try and accommodate for the general consensus when ever possible.:thumbsup:

staticvandal 22-08-2011 03:34 PM

Why is everyone picking on arsey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RCPhil (Post 543471)
I only said I liked it, I didn't say I was going to build it!!

Phil, consider your self shot down in flames. You obviously have no idea what a track should be like and nobody cares about your having fun philosophy - stick to scalextric amateur :p:lol:.

mugenmark 23-08-2011 07:31 AM

still the same point you refuse to look or god forbid drive your cars round another tracks so how can you tell the what your aiming for ?

peetbee 23-08-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RCPhil (Post 543245)
Ok. I liked that one. Prove me wrong with your suggestions.
Show me others and say why.

Tracks should have features not obstacles, that one looked more like an RC assault course - as someone else said, it doesn't flow, the surface makes each lap random, where's the fun in that?

Without wanting to offend you (or anyone else) do you want to race or bash? stuff like that would be fun if you weren't racing, but I don't see the appeal on a race track where the fun is seeing how fast you can compete against others.
All IMHO of course! :)

staticvandal 23-08-2011 08:33 AM

Mark, I understand your point and we all appreciate all the help and input we are getting, but why do you insist that none of us have been on or seen a track before, some of us have even been to your track at Slough.
Since the start of this project, all our members even those that are newbies have been studying and researching and Visiting other tracks.
Yes we have a lot of novice members, but even they have been involved with other RC activities and some even full scale motor sport, enough to know how to help out laying motor tracks. If every track was a copy of someone else's ideas this hobby would get real old real quick.

For all other comments and ideas regarding the "Basingstoke Track" please post them on "Basingstoke Off Road Track".

For more insults aimed at Phil for his cr*p choice in tracks, please carry and posting here and be as abusive as you like, after all he is the H&S officer so he's got thick skin. Sorry Phil, but that track does suck.:p

Anyone else brave enough to post a track suggestion for the Greatest Track.

staticvandal 23-08-2011 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by peetbee (Post 543950)
Tracks should have features not obstacles, that one looked more like an RC assault course - as someone else said, it doesn't flow, the surface makes each lap random, where's the fun in that?

Without wanting to offend you (or anyone else) do you want to race or bash? stuff like that would be fun if you weren't racing, but I don't see the appeal on a race track where the fun is seeing how fast you can compete against others.
All IMHO of course! :)

I have to agree with peetbee on the RC assault course.

peetbee 23-08-2011 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by staticvandal (Post 543956)
Anyone else brave enough to post a track suggestion for the Greatest Track.

May not count as 'Greatest Track' but ones that I like are:

Indoors: (slightly biased!) but how about the track from the UKMicrox?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWBZ7wRDCJ4
May have been for micros but it 10th cars ran round it fine and it shows what you can do in a relatively small hall (although the straight was 20 metres plus)

Outdoors:
Personally I liked the Robinhood national track
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2011national-rhr/
& the Southport track
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2010national-southport/

cjm_2008 23-08-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCPhil (Post 542376)
Have a look at this one chaps.

This is an AMAZING track.:thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Ik14MrVFTrU

that track would do my nut in.

from a spectators point of view, It's quite a spectacle - but to drive? hideous.

as others have already pointed out, the surface is inconsistent and the layout doesn't seem to allow any rythymn. it's got 'car killer' written all over it!

RCPhil 23-08-2011 12:48 PM

The UKMicros track looks like a right laugh. Love the vertical section.

Try this one. Looks like they had loads of time to make it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6frIdmqtIkA

staticvandal 23-08-2011 03:22 PM

Phil, you really like you jumps don't you. Which surprises me in a way, seeing as you have such difficulty driving in a straight line even. oooooo sorry mate couldn't resist that one - you know Im only joking :p

RCPhil 23-08-2011 05:37 PM

I like em' because I've not had the opportunity to try them!!

You wait, when this track is finished I'll show you just how cr*p I am at going over them.

I certainly seem to have attracted an amount of critisism for my choice of track and my comments but I base my opinion on what I think looks enjoyable, a challenge and different. As has been said, "If every track was a copy of someone else's ideas this hobby would get real old real quick".

No offence taken Mr. Peetbee, I appreciate your comments and see your point entirely.

I'm no racer (waiting for the abuse on that comment) and certainly don't have a lot of experiance with nitro or electric cars, but I do know what I want out of this hobby (as it is a "hobby" to me). To me this is about having fun, a laugh, enjoying what I give my free time up to do.

If others decide that they are going to take things more serious than is ever necesary so be it.

Be boring, go do your stuffy, structured racing.

Me? I'm gonna go and get my car out and see if my daughter can drive it because its fun.:p

staticvandal 23-08-2011 06:10 PM

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:Well said that man :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

peetbee 23-08-2011 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCPhil (Post 544207)
To me this is about having fun, a laugh, enjoying what I give my free time up to do.

If others decide that they are going to take things more serious than is ever necesary so be it.

Be boring, go do your stuffy, structured racing.

I totally agree that it is about having fun, a laugh and enjoying yourself but structured racing can still be fun without being at all stuffy. If it's not fun the numbers will soon drop off (and you'll need some structure to run a club).

But build a track that's a car breaker or obstacle course and you may love it but not everyone else will - unfortunately all tracks are compromises between what you would love to build and what is practical, safe and keeps the majority happy.

I co-run a club and give up a lot of my free time to do so, if racing wasn't fun then I would have packed it in long ago.

I hope that it works out and am only sticking my nose in cos I fancy packing my RC stuff for some midweek racing this winter when I visit Amazingstoke with work!
Pete

PS I wasn't keen on the other track you posted either! It was just jumps with corners connecting them
:p

RCPhil 24-08-2011 01:51 PM

Peetbee

Without speaking for my esteemed fellow members of our fine organisation it would be great to see you at any of our meets, bashing or racing.:thumbsup:

Maybe when we meet you can improve my knowledge on what does and doesn't make a good track for racing!!:p

Regards

RC"I wouldn't know a good track if it jumped up and bit me"Phil:thumbsup:

peetbee 24-08-2011 04:37 PM

LOL, I am no track design guru that's for sure! Look forward to it:thumbsup:


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