Orion R10 Setups
 

Given to me by a a friendly FDL chap :)

Dustin Evans
2wd Modified Buggy
TQ & Winning Team Orion R10 Set-Up

Team Orion Software: V1.07_110119
1: Running Mode = For/Brake
2: Drag Brake = Custom 11%
3: Voltage Protection = 3.0V/cell
4: "DRRS" Punch = Level 3
5: Brake Force = 62.5
6: Reverse Force = 25%
7: Initial Brake = Drag Brake
8: Neutral Range = 9%
9: Boost Timing = 0
10: Turbo Slope = 24
11: Overheat Protection = Disable
12: Turbo Timing = 0
14: Turbo Delay = Off

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Jared Tebo
Modified Truck
Winning Team Orion R10 Set-Up
Team Orion Software: V1.07_110119
1: Running Mode = For/Brake
2: Drag Brake = Custom 12%
3: Voltage Protection = 3.0V/cell
4: "DRRS" Punch = Level 3
5: Brake Force = 70
6: Reverse Force = 25%
7: Initial Brake = Drag Brake
8: Neutral Range = 6%
9: Boost Timing = 0
10: Turbo Slope = 24
11: Overheat Protection = Disable
12: Turbo Timing = 0
14: Turbo Delay = Off

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Jared Tebo
4wd Modified Buggy
TQ & Winning Team Orion R10 Set-Up

Team Orion Software: V1.07_110119
1: Running Mode = For/Brake
2: Drag Brake = 0
3: Voltage Protection = 3.0V/cell
4: "DRRS" Punch = Level 3
5: Brake Force = 62.5
6: Reverse Force = 25%
7: Initial Brake = 0
8: Neutral Range = 6%
9: Boost Timing = 0
10: Turbo Slope = 24
11: Overheat Protection = Disable
12: Turbo Timing = 0
14: Turbo Delay = Off

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Dakotah Phend
4x4 Modified Short Course
Winning Team Orion R10 Set-Up

Team Orion Software: V1.07_110119
1: Running Mode = For/Brake
2: Drag Brake = 0
3: Voltage Protection = 3.0V/cell
4: "DRRS" Punch = Level 3
5: Brake Force = 62.5
6: Reverse Force = 25%
7: Initial Brake = 0
8: Neutral Range = 9%
9: Boost Timing = 12
10: Turbo Slope = 12
11: Overheat Protection = Disable
12: Turbo Timing = 12
14: Turbo Delay = 0.1

The software level suggest that they have based this on the HobbyWing V3 119MOD firmware if that is indeed the case I use more PUNCH (on my HobbyWing ESCs with that firmware on) than Tebo ... seems I should be turn that bad boy down!

I was thinking that, the list is identical to the Hobbywing/Speed Passion lift of settings.

Is the Orion a rebranded Hobbywing?

Yes that is the case ;) Orion looks alot better tho :drool:

A lot of people think that this is the case but it is not.
Hobbywing are very good and very popular on the Asian continent but just not on the same level as Orion. Power ratings etc etc are far higher on Orion and that keeps the temps down and motors last a lot longer and it just goes on and on. If you stuty the ratings etc you will soon realise that Orion is in another league.
Saying that Hobbywing are very good.
It just depends if you want the best

Hobbywing stuff is great for club/practicing/regionals...or if your on a budget. However, the Orion stuff looks very nice, and as with all these things you do get what you pay for, even if you first cant see it!

i use speed passion stuff, and in terms of reliablility, it is brilliant. However, if I was racing more seriously, then I would look at the orion stuff, it is priced very competitively.

Hobbywing stuff is perfectly adequate for Nationals too! Brian Eldridge came 2nd in the mod Class at the Halifax BRCA TC National using a HW ESC!

There's loads of them knocking around at National level in various touring cars. Even mine!

Excellent ESC :thumbsup:

Some info if you haven't seen it
 

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The Vortex R10 Pro has gone through intensive testing by our international R&D team. We chose the best settings and pre-installed them on the ESC. Programming is only needed for those who are searching the last tenths of a second on the track.
With the on/off switch most of the
parameters can be adjusted.

Please click here to see the
adjustable parametersWith the DSB-R Digital Setting Box all the settings can be made on a LCD display. With the box you can change all parameters and update the firmware of the ESC. A free PC software is available for download.



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So if I want the best buy Orion?

Are you 100% that it's not a hobbywing?

Well they are winning everything at the mo - World Champions 2wd and 4wd - real smooth to drive etc etc

If you think the above looks and is a Hobbywing then buy a Hobbywing.
To me Orion is an Orion - LOL
Honestly I cannot make a comment on Hobbywing but Orion has certainly stepped up to the mark to make one of the best speed controllers on the market - the choice is yours

Hmmm
 

Forget hobbywing...

This looks similar to the ko propo vfs bmc-1 speedo!

I just bought one for my kyosho fs

The specs are similar to some extent. But looks like the heat sink is different - a bit like the Novak kinetic.

Anyway...as long as it does the job, right?

;)

Certain best looking in my view :p

I don't think it looks like a Hobbywing, it what's inside that counts, and it possibly could be another hobbywing rebadge. In fact I'm certain of it.

Yes it looks awesome, I like the detail the capacitors, I'm sure it's as good as all the top end esc's.

Who owns HW, SP, HPI & Orion?

Certainly looks like a common software platform.

Maybe the new VAG of the RC world

Tony your funny fella :p Got too give you that. Your sponsors get there monies worth from you :D Orion has always made quality gear though, will give you that ;)

So if Hobbywing is the same as SP and Orion. Which HW esc is rebranded as the Orion R10? Was going to put the R10 in my DEX210 but am having second thoughts now.

Hobbywing could well be the manufacturer. They knock out their own branded range of gear which is simply a quick lets get the product to market to range and sell them to the masses!

Orion may simply have developed the R range of speedos and got Hobbywing to manufacture them, who better to make your speedo than someone who makes tons of them anyway! As long as its to your specification (software and physical parts) then it should all be good.

So, long story short, even if the manufacturer is Hobbywing, it really doesn't matter. This is a product designed and manufactured to Orions specification and with such a good name, they wouldn't dare tarnish it by releasing a new range of products that are no good.

Edit: (PS, I've got one myself. Recommended by people who have actually used them)
Re-edit!: I don't have any info on who actually makes them, just simply highlighting the fact that it doesn't actually matter ;)

Which I think in my industry is outsourcing - you get things done to your spec by someone else, no labour, factory base costs.

Extremely nice looking speedo there

it could be the new hobbywing v3 esc in orions own case.also the lcd box looks like hobbywings, but with carbon look

seems like hpi`s new esc is made by hobbywing too (new v3 too)

So then SP and Orion aren't just rebranded copies of other Hobbywing speedos? I'm just getting tired of guys saying its the same esc's with different stickers without any real explanation. Seems to be a lot of guessing.

Could the mounted cap be used with other speedos? Be ideal for neat installs :thumbsup:

so guys who has got the program boxs in stock cant find them anywere....

Nope, they will be designed to Orion specifications. Hobbywing are simply a manufacturer. That's IF it is Hobbywing...

They aren't available just yet, I'm told they are due in shops within a week.

It's my understanding that the Orion ESC is made by Hobbywing. If that's a problem to anyone, then so be it. I also believe that this isn't the HW V3, and that is due later.

Ultimately, as someone suggested - if you wanted to have an ESC made, and you couldn't do it yourself, then going to an ESC manufacture isn't actually a bad idea!! That doesn't mean that all ESC's that manufacture makes are the same. They might be, they might not be!! You can probably count on one hand the number of people that actually know FOR SURE - and those people are likely to be inside the actual manufacture, and are unlikely to tell you!!

There is one motor manufacture that makes motors for a couple of the major manufactures - but that doesn't mean all those motors are the same, although it is clear that they share certain components.

Sorry Tony, but your slightly wrong.....fair dinkums for pushing the sponsors product mind (even if a little misinformed ;) )

The speedo is built for Orion by HW. End of.

That's no bad thing, and it is a unit built specifically for Orion (so won't be rebranded as anything else), but is not an Orion home brew as many people seem to think.

What it isn't is a V3 HW in a rebaged case... call it a V2.5 if you will. It comes out of the same factory as the other HWings, and is designed by the same guy.

There is no doubt the Orion is a damm fine unit, and certainly visualy looks loads better than the current HW v2 120A...and from what I've been told the internals are a step forward over the old ESC too.
Personally, I'll wait for the v3 HW to be released thanks, which will contain most of the internals of the Orion, with a few other tricks. However, there is plenty of room for both on the market :thumbsup:

If you doubt my above points, this comes direct from the HW factory, as I do have close contacts with them, being based out here. :)

Regards
Ed

TryHard is spot on.

Main upgrades over the V2.1 HobbyWing hardware are

double sensor port position
higher rating fets (not necessary in offroad as the number of people using 60A escs show)
ability to use larger power wires
heatsink case.

The HobbyWing V3 is going to be a very different animal ... all I can say is watch this space as it's going to break some fresh ground when it arrives around end of quater 1 next year!! (ok ... quick teaser ... BlueTooth ... ;) )

Does anybody know who the UK distributor is for Hobbywing?

Ebay.co.uk? lol

They are actually distributed in the UK now, Roger has mentioned it before.

ttp://www.racersinexile.org.uk

(Taken from Rogers signature!

Edit: Just realized this has gone way off topic!

:lol:

In Touring cars in Hara's latest set ups he is using HW - can't get better than that.
Isn't it funny how many team drivers churn out so much rubbish.
I remember when a British manufacturer had a hole drilled slightly wrong on their topdeck which made the car tweak very easily.
Many of the team drivers were denying this was the case - funny how a new top was supplied on request that cured the tweaking.

Ok, is it not good to have a choice?

For me I'd choose Orion, SP and then maybe HW.

But that's my choice.. If it meets YOUR needs then mission achieved :thumbsup:

this makes me chuckle as edd said hw make the esc for orion to there specs same as sp just because orion have got a good team driver base and been around longest the orion is the best but reality is it is no better than the rest.

orions first attempt of brushless ecs was pretty crap and there motors were copies of the fiego motors just like sp and gm.

dont get me wrong orion name is good in this sport does it matter. i dont think so.

So why knock the other manufacturers
for your £ Hw has to be the best, excellent support as well

To be honest if it sounds like I'm knocking the R10, I'm not, it is a great ESC.
I can fully understand why some people would want to by it (we live in a time when brand is king after all), and if knowing that the esc is made by HW hurts the product, then more fool you. Just look how many titles the old SP has won, also made by HW. (I can name two TC worlds in that list!).
All things considered, the R10 is the best ESC on the Market now. But bang for buck, the 120a HW wins hands down.

Anyway, in an attempt to bring it slightly back on topic... Interesting to note that only one setup is using any form of boost/turbo, which is for the 4x4sct! Surprised no one thought to use a bit of turbo for more top-end :)

Ran my Orion R10 and worked very well in the 4WD. SP ESC is still for my 2WD.

A lot of electronics are made by this same factory.

The Hobbywing version (i am not sure if is the factorys own name or not) is cetainly made at same place there are many brands using this factory for their own design.

I know Oscar Jansen spent a lot of time working on this ESC design so although it may be similar to the Hobbywing it is not the same in performance or every component.

That said Hobbywing range is very good value for money.

I see Elliot Harper has joined Orion too

http://www.teamorion.com/index.php?dispatch=news.list