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peetbee 15-08-2011 01:05 PM

Rallycross
 
After seeing the Audi Quattro that Huw won at the UKMicroX raffle and following nagging/harassment from Si, I thought I would ask everyone what they thought about some rallycross racing at Caldicot.

The idea would be that you could take either a rally car from Carisma/Tamiya/etc OR a cheapo touring car and fit it with suitable tyres and a Quattro/6R4/RS200/Escort/Sierra bodyshell and jack up the suspension so that it could cope with the majority of the features we have on our tracks (ok maybe not big jumps!) and have a rallycross series.

The tracks shouldn't have to be toned down much/if at all so buggy drivers would still have the same fun as normal.

What interest would there be?

Dyna 15-08-2011 03:15 PM

Tricky one this. I like the idea, but how long would it last ?

I remember back when i started almost 30 years ago, a couple of guys had Audi Quattro bodyshells on their Kyosho Scorpions that raced with the rest of the buggies. Looked great. But the phase didnt last long.

Then their was the Rallycross period in the 90's, which lasted all of about a year or two :bored:

I think you'd have to convert buggies though, rather than tourers... ?

I do have a brand new Parma Porsche 911 Carrera body shell, with full interior & spoiler that would good on a buggy though, subtly cut-down.... :)

c0sie 15-08-2011 03:34 PM

If it in anyway tones down the tracks then im against it.

Im all for new classes and all that, but a lot of people come to Caldicot for the kind of tracks that are built each week.

Just my 2p worth

mrspeedy 15-08-2011 04:27 PM

I think Pete has cunningly made rallycross sound a bit crap !! sorry Pete ..

Bit I think it could be a good laugh and a fun alternative to SC10 racing and no need to tone down the tracks either ...

We've raced a similar championship at WORM with mini shells on the micro's and its been a run away success so no real reason it wouldn't work on a slightly bigger scale at Caldicot IMHO ....

have a look at my amateur vid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEGJQIgY6lg

All it would need is a cheap TC, and a rally style shell, and there's absolutely loads on ebay and they looks ace ...

Ford RS 200 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...T#ht_744wt_896

Metro 6r4 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Controlfre...4#ht_768wt_910

Ford Focus http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-10th-For...ht_1975wt_1141

Scooby - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-10th-Sub...1#ht_1975wt_11

Dakar wildcat - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOWLER-WIL...#ht_1536wt_910

Mini's ... http://cache1.bigcartel.com/product_...24938543/3.jpg

HarlowS 15-08-2011 04:31 PM

Is it just me or are those cars in the video the penny racers that you used to get ??? Put a penny in the boot, pull em back and watch em go :lol:



Quote:

Originally Posted by mrspeedy (Post 540384)
I think Pete has cunningly made rallycross sound a bit crap !! sorry Pete ..

Bit I think it could be a good laugh and a fun alternative to SC10 racing and no need to tone down the tracks either ...

We've raced a similar championship at WORM with mini shells on the micro's and its been a run away success so no real reason it wouldn't work on a slightly bigger scale at Caldicot IMHO ....

have a look at my amateur vid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEGJQIgY6lg

All it would need is a cheap TC, and a rally style shell, and there's absolutely loads on ebay and they looks ace ...

Ford RS 200 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...T#ht_744wt_896

Metro 6r4 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Controlfre...4#ht_768wt_910

Ford Focus http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-10th-For...ht_1975wt_1141

Scooby - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-10th-Sub...1#ht_1975wt_11

Dakar wildcat - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOWLER-WIL...#ht_1536wt_910


Teaboy 15-08-2011 05:35 PM

Having competed as a navigator on Rallies in a 6R4 and won the welsh championship in an Escort im all for this, but not every week, just as a once a month thing i guess.

Cheers

Rich

hit5005 15-08-2011 06:05 PM

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this would be awsome ill get the audi out the box :thumbsup: and the track was calmed down for the vintage and i think once a month is a good call we could have a championship im well up for this :thumbsup::thumbsup:i do think if we do it once a month it may catch on with the micros with a mini shell wich are awsome it would be a reel good laugh but thats just me i may bring my friday to test it out:thumbsup:

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DCM 15-08-2011 06:24 PM

So, these go on a 190mm touring car, raise the suspension and put rally tyres on?

mrspeedy 15-08-2011 06:47 PM

Yup :thumbsup:

DCM 15-08-2011 07:49 PM

hmmmm!!

peetbee 16-08-2011 01:01 AM

Sorry Si, I didn't mean to make it sound crap, honest!
i dearly want a computervision 6r4!

my reference to toning the track down did not mean having a touring car track, more that I meant not having a huge jump, but wall rides, table tops and smaller jumps would still be all possible and i'd just like to add that we don't tone the tracks down for vintage.

Our tracks have not been about big jumps or craziness for quite some time.

Clioman_2000 16-08-2011 09:44 AM

sounds insane! hehe.. would be great fun to watch and probably race in.... would be a different kettle of fish to buggies too so maybe get some different winners too :D

peetbee 20-08-2011 12:59 AM

Apologies for the poor quality video, but here's Huw taking his Carisma Audi Quattro around for a couple of laps last night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6TBJ...er_profilepage

anyone tempted now? :)

sunbeam 20-08-2011 10:53 AM

Sorry Huw, I've had to vote no, as cool as your car looks :(

Club night can get a little tight as it is now with micro, vintage, short course, 2WD and 4WD. Another class would squeeze things still further.

Maybe if the club dropped a class (micro, vintage or short course), and replaced it with the rally cars, that would be cool :thumbsup: . Or start racing at 7pm, but that may be hard for some ?

Rob.

(However, if somebody made a GOOD rally Sunbeam Lotus, I'd HAVE to join in and vote yes !!! )

This is my personal car EWO 310V (bottom of page)
http://sunbeamti.free.fr/TI.htm
Corgi have just made a model of it !!!!!!!!!
http://www.corgi.co.uk/shop/1111/chr...ategories=cars

peetbee 20-08-2011 11:56 AM

Rob, we're thinking maybe trying it as a short term series like vintage so it wouldnt be too bad. Only 6 nights a year after all!
In the meantime lets get onto kamtec to do a shell for you. A full heat of these for you?
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h7.../trt_tijpg.jpg

c0sie 20-08-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunbeam (Post 542596)
Sorry Huw, I've had to vote no, as cool as your car looks :(

Club night can get a little tight as it is now with micro, vintage, short course, 2WD and 4WD. Another class would squeeze things still further.

Maybe if the club dropped a class (micro, vintage or short course), and replaced it with the rally cars, that would be cool :thumbsup: . Or start racing at 7pm, but that may be hard for some ?

Rob.

(However, if somebody made a GOOD rally Sunbeam Lotus, I'd HAVE to join in and vote yes !!! )

This is my personal car EWO 310V (bottom of page)
http://sunbeamti.free.fr/TI.htm
Corgi have just made a model of it !!!!!!!!!
http://www.corgi.co.uk/shop/1111/chr...ategories=cars

:rolleyes:

Yeah drop micros, its not like they bring anything to the club or anything :rolleyes:

sunbeam 20-08-2011 03:19 PM

That's what I'm talking about !!

I make master moulds of vintage cars and vans for Oxford diecast all day long as a day job, so making an acurate master is no problem for me. But I really can't be bothered to turn my spare time into more of what I do as a day job.

But,

I have the car, if somebody wants to measure it up and produce a mould, game on.

mrspeedy 20-08-2011 06:11 PM

It's not exactly a Lotus Sunbeam, but could certainly pass as one I reckon -

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-dri...1.html?picID=2

and looks pretty cool :thumbsup:

pic-

http://funkyimg.com/u2/803/614/100608062613.jpg

I'm liking the look of this atm ...


http://www.hpieurope.com/graphics/pa.../17525_02p.jpg

sunbeam 20-08-2011 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrspeedy (Post 542769)
It's not exactly a Lotus Sunbeam, but could certainly pass as one I reckon -

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-dri...1.html?picID=2

and looks pretty cool :thumbsup:

pic-

http://funkyimg.com/u2/803/614/100608062613.jpg

I'm liking the look of this atm ...


http://www.hpieurope.com/graphics/pa.../17525_02p.jpg

YUCK !! :thumbdown:

You'll have to work harder than that to get me on board ;) LOL.

mrspeedy 21-08-2011 04:21 PM

Ok, so how about a Mk2 Escort then ?

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...2082011193.jpg

sunbeam 21-08-2011 04:32 PM

:o:o:o Your suggesting an Escort to a Sunbeam man ! :o:o:o

peetbee 21-08-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunbeam (Post 543060)
:o:o:o Your suggesting an Escort to a Sunbeam man ! :o:o:o

Quick Si, run away - that's blasphemy in Rob's book!:D

mrspeedy 30-08-2011 09:43 PM

anyways .... back on track ...

I'm torn between the Scooby above, or maybe a Mcrae style Focus ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brgt350...n/photostream/

HPI do a very nice version -

http://steliosh.net/rc/losi/kapakia/focus_rear.jpg

peetbee 30-08-2011 09:56 PM

Nice, although I'm sure John Howe would like one of those shells!

mrspeedy 30-08-2011 10:04 PM

I'll have a word :thumbsup:

also found this Bluegroove vintage group B Quattro :woot:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-QUATTRO...#ht_500wt_1180

peetbee 30-08-2011 10:21 PM

:wub

Group B was fabulous

Body Paint 31-08-2011 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrspeedy (Post 547175)
I'll have a word :thumbsup:

also found this Bluegroove vintage group B Quattro :woot:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-QUATTRO...#ht_500wt_1180

Thats AWESOME!!! though it's 70mm to long, and about 12mm to narrow :D

peetbee 31-08-2011 12:30 PM

getting closer tho, keep looking Si.

Craig, one for your parents here! Although they did rally them back in the 60's if you're tempted!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KYOSHO-MGB-M...item230fdd3070
plus extras
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KYOSHO-MGB-M...item230fdd3b82

mrspeedy 31-08-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Body Paint (Post 547303)
Thats AWESOME!!! though it's 70mm to long, and about 12mm to narrow :D


Craig, have a look here- http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRAXXAS-1-16...#ht_500wt_1180

I know its still not right but closer !!! and feckin cool !!

rc ninja setup 31-08-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peetbee (Post 547171)
Nice, although I'm sure John Howe would like one of those shells!

I have two allready + a escort wrc

peetbee 31-08-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rc ninja setup (Post 547424)
I have two allready + a escort wrc

Showoff!:p
So can we add you to the list of those interested to run a suitable car?:D

JACKOR33 31-08-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 540350)
If it in anyway tones down the tracks then im against it.

Im all for new classes and all that, but a lot of people come to Caldicot for the kind of tracks that are built each week.

Just my 2p worth


For the people who think they couldnt handle a caldicot style track :

http://www.youtube.com/norcalhobbies.../0/-FxJFeNg6K0

running on a short course outdoor track without problems....:thumbsup:

JACKOR33 01-09-2011 01:23 PM

I'm In lets get it on!!!
 
Been reading up online about these for durability etc, there are quite a few tamiyas versions of these that would qualify as vintage aswell :thumbsup:

My choice of car is a lancia delta integrale in martini colours :wubQuick pete say yes or no about this series as i'm about to hit " buy it now" if we can race em:woot::woot:

DCM 01-09-2011 01:26 PM

Jack, we can have our own series to!

JACKOR33 01-09-2011 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 547820)
Jack, we can have our own series to!

I know that;) but Better still we could scrap the wrca winter series and have an Inter club rallycross winter series lol:p:p

peetbee 01-09-2011 01:30 PM

I saw that Integrale shell as well, very nice! Buy it Dave, buy it!!
If everyone that has voted yes on here turns up with a car then that's more than enough for a race :thumbsup:

I like the idea of a heat of these on your astro track!

JACKOR33 01-09-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peetbee (Post 547824)
I saw that Integrale shell as well, very nice! Buy it Dave, buy it!!
If everyone that has voted yes on here turns up with a car then that's more than enough for a race :thumbsup:

I like the idea of a heat of these on your astro track!



So do we pete think it'll put some fun back into racing and people watching will love it:thumbsup:

mrspeedy 01-09-2011 03:46 PM

That was kinda the idea really ...

We have run the Mini's at WORM with a summer rally championship, and it's been ace ! Lots of fun, peeps laughing as they get elbowed off track .... full contact racing but no nasty stuff .... just close and personal :)

And hopefully 10th scale can be better, lots of cheap retro bodies on ebay and cheap TC ...

Almost like a British version of SC racing :woot: and thats gotta be a good thing !

Steven Forster 01-09-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrspeedy (Post 547166)
anyways .... back on track ...

I'm torn between the Scooby above, or maybe a Mcrae style Focus ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brgt350...n/photostream/

HPI do a very nice version -

http://steliosh.net/rc/losi/kapakia/focus_rear.jpg

Ive got..........

Pro painted ford focus as above (just added decals)

Pro painted Mitsuibishi Evo 4 or 5 (just added decals

and a blue subaru imprezza also just added decals and all fit my HPI RS4 Rally car with long travel suspension (better than touring car)

have fun :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Pappisavage 01-09-2011 07:19 PM

I have a team associate Touring car TC4 can this be converted to rally?


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