Hope my fellow londoners are ok?
 

Forgive me being London centric but i hope those on here that live in London are ok.

So far only my local Tesco has been looted but its getting grimmer by the minute.

Its a disgrace. The mother ******* want shooting! I wouldn't mind so much if they were burning down police stations, but they are ruining good people's lives and burning down their homes. There is no justification for that. Innocent people will die if it doesn't stop soon.

OK so the list so far,

Ealing
Walthamstow
Hackney
Bethnal Green
Clapham
Elephant and castle
Croydon
Totenham
Woodgreen
Woolwich

Just heard that Edgware is on the verge of disaster as well

Its nothing to do with a protest theres not enough Police to contain them and they know it. They can do what they want where they want.

seems to be kicking off in Camden too at the mo, Looters reported to be heading toward tottenham Ct road too!:thumbdown:

I get that, and whilst I don't agree with it I can understand why some might choose to do it. But when innocent people are having their homes burnt to the ground then it's over stepping the mark in a big way!

Although they are also heading up towards Hampstead, can't see them looting designer furnitureshops and kitchen showrooms though..

Just hoping they keep moving away from my area, came home to see the Hackney ladbrokes getting broken into this evening where 2 of my friends were working. I only signed off the refit on that shop 6 months ago. Thank god i changed jobs

Really, burning down Police stations is OK.......:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

+1

I just dont understand how they go out on a second night of looting and it seemed nothing was done to stop it. Yesterday I saw on telly 2 guys carrying a 50" flat screen telly down the street. Absolutely ridiculious.

The violence was on a level you see only in N Ireland and when that happens the police get out the water cannons.

Thats what they should of done here ; at least it would wash most of the shit down the drains. Of course we couldnt do that now as we are a nambi pambi nation and it would be deemed 'heavy handed action' by the authorities.

No doubt these people who got arrested will just have there hands slapped, get away with a fine and let loose to loot, pilege and deal in drugs or whatever they do.

It was the 3rd night, started Saturday.

Water cannons can't be used as NO police force on the mainland have them, they are only deployed and on hand in Northern Ireland.

Finally early this morning they started using the armed response armoured trucks to charge them the down, sadly not many of them available.

The police force in London is tiny in comparison to the amount of people rioting there just arent enough of them.

What needed to be done was to shut down the underground and bus networks. I agree that the Police needed to use more force but if they do things will escalate these kids are not using guns yet, but they have them and if that happens we are in a world of pain.

Slate me if you want. this is not racist but I think the army should be brought in and let loose with the scum for target practice. If they cannot act like human beings in our society then they dont desrerve to live in our society. Round them up and send them home.
Also where are the police dogs. I remember at a mid seventies everton-Utd match about 400 fans fighting by the tunnel. A single landrover pulled up out jumped four dogs and the fans ran like hell some even down the tunnel. Peace restored in minutes.

I think it's time for National Service to return, send the little toe-rags out to throw stuff at the Taliban.

Or use them for sweeping mine fields.

I didnt realise that UK police dont have water cannons. Perhaps they should of issued them with bananas( monty python) instead.

I know it exploded into mass rioting but I think the police should of reascted quicker but as you mentioned there resources were limited. And for that reason the police didnt have the manpower to protect the fire engine crews from going in and controling the fires.

Couldnt they have brought in the army, was that an option?

:thumbsup::thumbsup: I don't think they would be so brave if they were out on the front line about to get shot at. :lol:

One of the problems is the youth of today (generally as I know this will not apply to all of them) have no respect for authority. The UK has gone soft and now we are seeing the results of this :mad:

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Can't say I love police but imagine what the situation would be like if there weren't any at all.


extreme behaviour calls for extreme action, this country and it's soft arm of the law make me sick....

just watching the news and it is going on in the center of birmingham now too...

No of course it is not ok, thats not how it was meant to sound. I should have worded it better. The point that I was trying to make was that this all started due to being loosely connected to the killing last week as it appears that it may have been an officer with a twitchy finger.

That being the case, if they were truly upset about the shooting then their anger, frustration, hurt, whatever it may be should be directed at those responsible and not burning down innocent peoples homes and ruining good peoples lives and / or livelihoods.

The problem is, this is now nothing to do with last weeks shooting. This is just scum showing their true colours.

And if it was a choice between burning down a police station, or burning down an innocent persons shop / home / flat and taking away their ability to earn a living or home to live in, then yes I would rather it was the police station.

Of course, I do not condone this at all and would much rather nothing was being burnt down. That goes without saying.

I remember watching the Poll Tax riots back in the 80's, at least they had something to riot about, now this is just opportune mob mentality, there was even opposing gangs fighting in an A&E department.

Me, personally, they do have water cannons in mothballs, army stock etc, bring them out, tear gas cannons, rubber bullets and if they don't work, shoot the looters. But I guarantee, no matter what the Police do, they will be criticised for either being to 'soft' or over reacting.....

Former England cricket captain Michael Vaughan tweets: @VaughanCricket: "Talk of a curfew.. Won't work.. These idiots think they are above the law.. Just send the troops in.. #londonriots"
Tanks and snipers please

Theresa may stated that she wont use the army and the use of watwercannons are ruled out:mad:

This country is going down the shitter.

How are we going to deal with these people. Im sick of this government.

It must have been absolutely terrifying for people caught up in the riots.

What do they call it when they target the ring leaders and bundle them off in vans... snatch teams?

Clarkson for primeminister ! He won't take this tomfoolery !
This government is crap... How do you like your cut backs now! Pathetic :mad:

these idiots doing this all over the country are mindless t@!ts with shit for brains,is sadening to see this shit going on on the telly,get the army in and shoot the fucking lot of em thats what i say.

There are a lot of one-man-bands whose businesses have been destroyed and people left homeless.
I'm sure that they are going to feel a lot better when they realise that the money they have paid in tax is going to pay for the solicitors who will argue for the release of those arrested.
If solicitors had any morals (?) they should all turndown representing these cases

So where are the police with the 12 gauge bean bag shot. That will sort them out and yes where are all the police dogs......:thumbdown::thumbdown:

FYI, the only water cannon in the UK belong to the PSNI (N. Ireland), and they haven't been asked to loan them out...yet.

If the police can't contain the situation, the army will be the last resort. That worked out really well in N.Ireland 40 years ago...not :(

Still, there has to be tough, pro-active measures to prevent them congregating. There are no happy solutions to this.

They wont be able to catch all of them, but I saw on the news one of them smashing a microwave he had looted from a shop . His prints are all over that and things like this should be used to round up all the thieving scum. Alot of evidence is lying there waiting to be collected.

i am ok on call of duty :-) give me a 50 cal and a few days ! rekon i could thin them out a little :-)

The lack of respect started when they stopped you from slapping your own kids, or teachers from throwing the black board rubber at you if you were titting about.

Time was, if you came home crying, mum or dad would ask why, you'd say Mr Smith slapped me, why they'd ask, oh I kicked his bins over, then you got another slap, now, Mr Smith gets stabbed:bored:

Send 'em to Afganistan, see how they like it then.

Shoot 'em. Job done.:thumbsup: Would you go looting/rioting if there was a possibility that you could be killed? i think not.

Use the Apache gun ships, if you can be filmed from the air.............;)

Plus it would give Prince Harry something to do:lol:

Oh dear, nothing like a little lawlessness to bring out the right wingers with all the answers! It's fun watching you all vent your spleens! I wish I was so certain about these things. Looking forward to more ravings of the keyboard jockeys, it brings a smile to my face in these uncertain times!! :thumbsup:

can't help but think that this kind of s**t would not be tolerated in china!!

They should get, what they deserve. Some massive big a$$ kicks, and more!

I hope the army or the police can stop this situation. I cant believe, that people in my age are doing sh!t like this...

Wish you all the best London!

Got the riots here in manchester now,probs seen on news by now,
talk about cut backs,cameron wants to cut the police force and the army,god help him.
got a funny feeling he will be out very soon,too many cuts to soon.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

Did anyone just see the prick on sky news just now masked up and say that he's only out to get some money and gear. Wankr. :thumbdown::thumbdown::mad::mad::mad:

Well, if I hear someone tell me one more time that this is happening cause of cutbacks, gonna vent!! This is organised violence to cover up massive theft and destruction, not rioting... Water cannons, rubber bullets, tear gas and horse charges would be good to watch!

I've only put the news on to see the police getting stuck into the gangs, but the tv news crews are not covering it. :thumbdown:

I just posted this over on the Manchester side of this thread. 2 press photographers got beaten by a group of 8 - 10 youths with bats and bars and had their 8 grands worth of camera gear stolen.

This has all been organised on twitter and facebook, there was something about an Argos that got raided and police clearing it up found something saying what to do if you got caught.

I can't believe how quickly this has escalated. The country needs to show a heavy handed no mercy approach now before it gets any worse. Control needs to be taken back !

madness :( waste youts, TOO quite here in hackney @ mo, feel something brewing (just heard some sirens going police & fire engines)
their robbing/stripping folk of their items & clothes on their back :confused: see woman got stripped to birthday suit in board light an fella to his briefs :thumbdown: police need to listen to some dark jungle an get stuck in

they've got one of fire starters of the croydon furniture store :thumbsup: