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Rob_B 26-06-2011 07:20 PM

SX3 Belts
 
Ran my car at keighly regional today for the second time since i got it. After running it at kidderminster last week i noticed all three belts had started to fray. In my final i lost power to the front wheels, after finishing the race as a 2wd car i looked and my centre belt has snapped.
Just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with theres?

DHB 26-06-2011 10:03 PM

Yeah same issue hear mate ran it in a couple of race meetings and middle belt started fraying. Then today have an awsome meeting with car finished the forth race and belt had basically stretched and snapped. Back belt not looking to healthy either. Also no someone elses that is starting fray after 2nd time out. NOT IMPRESSED!!! apart from that good car.

leeboy44 26-06-2011 10:10 PM

if this keeps happening will they make a stronger belt?

V-Rossi 26-06-2011 10:29 PM

Apply some glue on the sidewalls of the belt, apparently (according to Trish) this seems to help a lot.

The Chef 27-06-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V-Rossi (Post 520147)
Apply some glue on the sidewalls of the belt, apparently (according to Trish) this seems to help a lot.

I did exactly that and have run 4 meets with no belt issues.:thumbsup:

Thanks Trish. Love you:wub

Lexington 28-06-2011 08:30 AM

Hello guys,
I'm new on the forum. It's really nice forum with a lot of good informations. I drive the Cat sx3 last weekend at the german masters qualification and got belt trouble. Which glue you use? A Team driver told me to use less spacer under the belt tensioner. should help also a bit!
cheers Lexington

gasjogi 28-06-2011 09:21 AM

I use bicycle glue for repairing bike tubes, so I never had troubles with the Cat belts!

Lexington 28-06-2011 09:28 AM

Thanks a million

leeboy44 28-06-2011 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gasjogi (Post 520725)
I use bicycle glue for repairing bike tubes, so I never had troubles with the Cat belts!

just on the edge?

gasjogi 28-06-2011 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeboy44 (Post 520734)
just on the edge?

Yesss!

leeboy44 28-06-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gasjogi (Post 520740)
Yesss!

tidyyyyyyyy!

fastinfastout 28-06-2011 09:54 AM

I would assume the glue needs to have some give to it, so yeah the bicycle glue seems like a good idea. I will use shoo glue on mine

bigred5765 28-06-2011 10:58 AM

all you have to do is seal the edges of the belts very lightly with super glue, we use a cotton bud but be very careful and apply lightly, we had a belt go but since we did that never had a problem.

mikeyscott 28-06-2011 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 520767)
all you have to do is seal the edges of the belts very lightly with super glue, we use a cotton bud but be very careful and apply lightly, we had a belt go but since we did that never had a problem.

No point in sealing a worn belt I assume, so time for a replacement and seal it. Assume you're using thin super glue etc?

bigred5765 28-06-2011 12:19 PM

mikey as long as the belts not to bad why not seal it, yeh thin super glue and less is better,its only to seal the edges,

mikeyscott 28-06-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 520803)
mikey as long as the belts not to bad why not seal it, yeh thin super glue and less is better,its only to seal the edges,

Ok will do. What belt tension spaces are you using as I'm on 2mm at present, but will prob drop it lower

bigred5765 28-06-2011 01:31 PM

if i remember kits was 2.5mm or 3mm anyway i removed the smaller one of the two after first couple of runs,dont over tighten it 2mm should be fine in most cases,

DCM 28-06-2011 01:39 PM

Can't believe I am reading this thread, what is the cause of the belt fraying, whats it rubbing on, surely sealing the side of the belt is just a patch fix?

Cardnim 28-06-2011 01:44 PM

Happens on the SX2 as well (though nowhere near as bad by the sounds of it)

Nuclear-RC's glue is fantastic, and should be thin enough to do the job well.
Im sure one of the Dave's could sort you out on here with it.

bigred5765 28-06-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 520831)
Can't believe I am reading this thread, what is the cause of the belt fraying, whats it rubbing on, surely sealing the side of the belt is just a patch fix?

dont think its happening on every belt or every car,and as stasted was done on sx and sx2,just like sealing the chassis / shock tower a matter of belts and braces,

Big G 28-06-2011 01:56 PM

partly the reason I sold mine. Sick of replacing belts at £7.99 a pop. the rear one on the sx2 was a total slag to replace also!

Cardnim 28-06-2011 02:00 PM

lol. Well said Big-G.

Last time I replaced the reaar belt I had this amazing brainwave, and thought "ha ha! instead of taking out all the layshaft and pulleys, I'll just cut the old belt!"
So I did, and that worked perfectly, absolutely easy to take out the old belt.
What a genius I am.....

...except I forgot that I still needed to fit the new belt.

Arse.

:)

bigred5765 28-06-2011 02:56 PM

only ever replaced three belts on my cat sx in two years, and one on my sx3,not bad running but must admit forgot to do the belts on the sx3 when i built it so my fault really,

bigred5765 28-06-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardnim (Post 520844)
lol. Well said Big-G.

Last time I replaced the rear belt I had this amazing brainwave, and thought "ha ha! instead of taking out all the layshaft and pulleys, I'll just cut the old belt!"
So I did, and that worked perfectly, absolutely easy to take out the old belt.
What a genius I am.....

...except I forgot that I still needed to fit the new belt.

Arse.

:)

to be fair no harder than stripping a gearbox out to change a crown wheel or pinion gear,

Big G 28-06-2011 02:59 PM

the old belt usually ejected from the car anyway when not running diff covers like I did indoors lol.

Like Trish has done with the sx3. a removable cap would release the top layshaft making rear belts a 2 min job. I did intend to do this on my sx2, but parted with the car before it happened.

mikeyscott 28-06-2011 03:06 PM

Never had an issue with the belts in 18 months with my original phil booth SX

Cardnim 28-06-2011 03:18 PM

This has got me wondering if part of the belts problem is bad fitting/placement on the part of the owner? If you two guys have had 18 months with no belts and 2 years with only 3 belts replaced you are doing smoething different (and possibly better!)

Likely to get flamed here, but just thinking out loud :p

How often, and in what conditions, did your cars get actually used in that 18 months and 2 years?
I reckon Im using my car more than most on here.

Im practising with my car almost every day at least once a day (sometimes 2 or 3 times!).... and not a nice indoor safe carpet, but outdoors (gravel, tarmac, grass track) and all my races are again outdoors on dirt with some big jumps (its a 1.8th nitro track!!)

Time the car has run without belt changes isnt really the issue, its how much the car has been used (abused).

Im not trying to poke sticks, genuinely want to see if I can protect the belts better and maintain my car better.

gazhillAE 28-06-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob_B (Post 520016)
Ran my car at keighly regional today for the second time since i got it. After running it at kidderminster last week i noticed all three belts had started to fray. In my final i lost power to the front wheels, after finishing the race as a 2wd car i looked and my centre belt has snapped.
Just wondered if anyone else has had an issue with theres?

Shit car and parts as I've already told you!
Buy another b44

Lexington 28-06-2011 03:56 PM

I use my Cat sx 2 every weekend on grass track with big jumps and a lot of bumps and
i change the belt's maybe one time the year. I sink its important to don't overstretch them. The B44 drivers have to change also some parts in the gear. I sink sx 2 is still a good car.

stegger 28-06-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardnim (Post 520876)
This has got me wondering if part of the belts problem is bad fitting/placement on the part of the owner? If you two guys have had 18 months with no belts and 2 years with only 3 belts replaced you are doing smoething different (and possibly better!)

Likely to get flamed here, but just thinking out loud :p

How often, and in what conditions, did your cars get actually used in that 18 months and 2 years?
I reckon Im using my car more than most on here.

Im practising with my car almost every day at least once a day (sometimes 2 or 3 times!).... and not a nice indoor safe carpet, but outdoors (gravel, tarmac, grass track) and all my races are again outdoors on dirt with some big jumps (its a 1.8th nitro track!!)

Time the car has run without belt changes isnt really the issue, its how much the car has been used (abused).

Im not trying to poke sticks, genuinely want to see if I can protect the belts better and maintain my car better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 520873)
Never had an issue with the belts in 18 months with my original phil booth SX

With you boy's on this, had the original cat SX from day it came out and not one problem with belts. Out drives where a different matter though,:lol: but that's been sorted. Miss my SX now, really tempted with the SXIII

Mossy 28-06-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazhillAE (Post 520883)
Shit car and parts as I've already told you!
Buy another b44

Good thing to say on a public forum for a team that supported you for 12 months. When you brake your B44 and leave them should we wait for a simliar post to arrive about that?

I have had very few issues with the belts personally on my Cat SX3. The problem should be sorted very shortly. Applying glue as Carl has said may help, something I havent tried tho but cant do any harm.

Si

mikeyscott 28-06-2011 06:25 PM

I did think that was coming from a previous team driver...

Ok cheers Simon and Carl. Will see what damage I can cause with teh glue - lol!

My biggest problem at the moment isn't the car it's the ESC/motor combo :( - Car when it wasn't having heat issues was very good.

bigred5765 28-06-2011 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazhillAE (Post 520883)
Shit car and parts as I've already told you!
Buy another b44

:thumbdown:
why do you bother,this from the guy that left the team because he couldn't wait 3 weeks for his new car,very constructive gaz,didnt you tell me you need a new car every 3 months lmfao

bigred5765 28-06-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardnim (Post 520876)
This has got me wondering if part of the belts problem is bad fitting/placement on the part of the owner? If you two guys have had 18 months with no belts and 2 years with only 3 belts replaced you are doing smoething different (and possibly better!)

Likely to get flamed here, but just thinking out loud :p

How often, and in what conditions, did your cars get actually used in that 18 months and 2 years?
I reckon Im using my car more than most on here.

Im practising with my car almost every day at least once a day (sometimes 2 or 3 times!).... and not a nice indoor safe carpet, but outdoors (gravel, tarmac, grass track) and all my races are again outdoors on dirt with some big jumps (its a 1.8th nitro track!!)

Time the car has run without belt changes isnt really the issue, its how much the car has been used (abused).

Im not trying to poke sticks, genuinely want to see if I can protect the belts better and maintain my car better.

matty runs his once/twice a week out doors, dont do any bashing but if you use yours as much as that things will wear very quickly,especialy on tarmac/concrete and dirt,

gazhillAE 28-06-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 520949)
:thumbdown:
why do you bother,this from the guy that left the team because he couldn't wait 3 weeks for his new car,very constructive gaz,didnt you tell me you need a new car every 3 months lmfao

Boring!
3 weeks more like 3 months and 4 nationals in I don't think so!
Any company who bring a car out half way through a season is crazy!
And I can't see why things are not fully tested before the car is first released as everyone else thinks!
And I buy a new car when ever I want as I'm a clean freak ;0)
The b44 finishes races unless the wheel nuts are not tightened up whoops!
And to add to mr moss's comment, if the b44 doesn't finish a race it is normally due to the driving not the FAILURE of the car it's self!

moth898 28-06-2011 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazhillAE (Post 520964)
Boring!
3 weeks more like 3 months and 4 nationals in I don't think so!
Any company who bring a car out half way through a season is crazy!
And I can't see why things are not fully tested before the car is first released as everyone else thinks!
And I buy a new car when ever I want as I'm a clean freak ;0)
The b44 finishes races unless the wheel nuts are not tightened up whoops!
And to add to mr moss's comment, if he b44 doesn't finish a race it is normally due to the driving not the FAILURE of the car it's self!

Seems to me that you have some anger issues.

Lets not turn this into another brand bashing thread. But I will say this about Schumacher. I don't know anyone that has spoken to Cavaleri or Kinwald for advice with their cars, but I have had a chance to communicate with Moss and Cockeril both on the forum and by phone for advice....and the built quality is flawless. For the hobbyist that I am this is priceless.

Enjoy your Thunder tiger...oops I mean Associated cars, and remember not to burn any bridges in the future, you might need to use them again one day.

feniks 28-06-2011 07:54 PM

the car is hardly ever the problem .
usualy its the meckaniks fault.

cmgreen 28-06-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 520940)
The problem should be sorted very shortly.

Si

New parts then simon? Dare i ask when.

Just 2 add, ran my sx3 at the weekend, ne regional, for a new car, wow, impressed!

Cardnim 28-06-2011 09:57 PM

Just back from my "man-shed" and have glued the belts. Cheers for the advice guys.
:)

Racing next Wed and Sunday so will get a good chance to test it then.

(now just need to get my hands on one of Steve's "stegger" braces......so if anyone has one...... :blush::lol:

The Chef 28-06-2011 10:15 PM

I have just got my SX3 i've run it for about 5 meets and towards the end of the day this sunday at torch I really felt like the car was becoming mine, I've come to my SX3 from a B44 and There is no comparison. The Cat feels stable, sure footed and confident. Getting my boy one now becaues I don't think that he should be held back by the B44,


Cat all the way.

Oh and it is metric.:thumbsup:


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