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budfish 26-06-2011 02:40 PM

Ansmann has got talent meeting
 
Just noticed this in the ansmann forum woody plans to have this talent hunt on behalf of ansmann I don't really see what this has to do with bury metro apart from woody is our chairman.

I can't really see any benefit to the club by hosting this. The only benefactor is ansmann.

So when will this event be held? I hope it's not a Sunday

So will the entrants pay the usual £7 for visitors?

What's in it for bury metro?

Why haven't the members been balloted about said event?

??????

I reckon if ansmann was to offer the club a couple of rtr mad monkeys for first timers to try that would go a long way as gratitude to bury metro for hosting said event infact if ansmann do right by us we could run a annual ansmann meeting and they could supply the prizes .......... Just an idea

Buds

captainlip 26-06-2011 04:35 PM

Minke may as we'll stay at home for this!

Thought it be something that would have been announced sooner

minke 26-06-2011 06:40 PM

If you can't see what a packed race meet will do for the club bud then you must be blind. In fact what exactly have you done to improve club membership?

Bury metro was an obvious suggestion from stu, new track, needing new members etc. No date set, though a saturday sounds reasonable enough.

If you don't want to come then don't. Simple

I'd travel a fair distance to meet and race a few ansmann drivers, sounds good. If this is the reception they'd get then maybe another location would be for the best.

Stotty 26-06-2011 07:23 PM

It would advertise the club.
But it would need to be on a non club day either that or if it was on a club day put all the people racing for the ansmann thing in there own heats.

budfish 26-06-2011 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minke (Post 519994)
If you can't see what a packed race meet will do for the club bud then you must be blind. In fact what exactly have you done to improve club membership?

Bury metro was an obvious suggestion from stu, new track, needing new members etc. No date set, though a saturday sounds reasonable enough.

If you don't want to come then don't. Simple

I'd travel a fair distance to meet and race a few ansmann drivers, sounds good. If this is the reception they'd get then maybe another location would be for the best.

Mike what are you going on about you really are a couple of butties short of a picnic.
As for improving membership I have introduced drivers to the club leave it at that.
So you think the idea of having a ansmann annual meeting is in some way insulting you or giving people a bad reception I don't understand what your getting at really

To the point you shouting " turn it off and switch it back on" every round you race or some other problem you have with your buggys puts more racers off than anything else I hate being in a heat with you for those very reasons as does most of the club

You arse

Dudders 26-06-2011 07:55 PM

My God!, Hope I never have or get the chance to race at Bury, you lot put the sport to shame :thumbdown:

Come to SHRCCC or TORCH and see how a proper meeting takes place with wit, humour and banter but all together a willingness to compete and support/help others.

Your poor, poor members must hang their heads at times :confused:

budfish 26-06-2011 08:15 PM

What ever you say mr perfect:thumbsup:

Si Coe 26-06-2011 08:16 PM

Not sure what its got to do with you Dudders!

As a rule I'm in favor of a big event that promotes the club and boosts membership. However, I'm not sure this event will actually do that.

The problem is that to do the job of promoting Ansmann properly, what is needed are people to run their cars from all over the country, and at lots of different clubs. The one club that doesn't need any more Ansmann sponsored drivers is Bury!
So it might attract lots of people to come and race here, but the whole point is they won't be coming back because they will be busy in future promoting Ansmann elsewhere.
That means the net gain for Bury is a single big meeting and possibly some space in the RC mags about the event.

I actually do quite like the idea, and I'm happy enough to be involved in organising it if Stu does want to use Bury, but there is value in questioning what in it for the club. We have been promised support in the past, but its never really shown up.

JonyNitro 26-06-2011 08:20 PM

Me to would be good for the club? oh Si what about the science thing!! PM w0ody about it? Via JE :D so that means soonish

minke 26-06-2011 08:24 PM

I've never said the phrase you just mentioned Bud. If you are referring to the heat where the speedo connection broke ( 3 camber links too surprisingly) that was also the day you trashed your lazer

If stu wants to hold the meeting at Bury then thats fine by me, just dont need the"'what's in it for me?" from the "I'm awesome" crowd.

The best part from the last meeting for me was helping the young lad with his rtr rat. Replaced his melted idler, showed him how to set the diff and slipper and asked rog if he could race. Before Phil chips in with another invaluble comment, I can build a solid diff, and havent had to touch any of mine in any of my cars. Hopefully the new guy turns up next week and I can show him some more stuff, just didnt have enough time.

Stu and Rob have been the main sources of help at my time at the club ( couple of other helpers I can't name). Everything else i've learnt and done myself.

Shame there is a minority who behave like prima donnas rather than helping someone establish themselves

tisher 26-06-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudders (Post 520033)
My God!, Hope I never have or get the chance to race at Bury, you lot put the sport to shame :thumbdown:

Come to SHRCCC or TORCH and see how a proper meeting takes place with wit, humour and banter but all together a willingness to compete and support/help others.

Your poor, poor members must hang their heads at times :confused:


DONT tanish everyone with the same brush fella I find bury a great family friendly club otherwise I would not take my six year old lad there. They have an amazing track and some top drivers and everyone is helpful and friendly and did metion the amazing new track you need to check it out you would enjoy it as much as we do:thumbsup:

budfish 26-06-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 520047)
Not sure what its got to do with you Dudders!

As a rule I'm in favor of a big event that promotes the club and boosts membership. However, I'm not sure this event will actually do that.

The problem is that to do the job of promoting Ansmann properly, what is needed are people to run their cars from all over the country, and at lots of different clubs. The one club that doesn't need any more Ansmann sponsored drivers is Bury!
So it might attract lots of people to come and race here, but the whole point is they won't be coming back because they will be busy in future promoting Ansmann elsewhere.
That means the net gain for Bury is a single big meeting and possibly some space in the RC mags about the event.

I actually do quite like the idea, and I'm happy enough to be involved in organising it if Stu does want to use Bury, but there is value in questioning what in it for the club. We have been promised support in the past, but its never really shown up.


That's what I wanted to say but due to poor schooling it comes out a bit harsher!

I don't really buy into this it's good for the sport( don't think it's a sport anyway it's a hobby)and get fresh drivers ethos I go racing for me and only me I'm crap but it's time away from the kids and a good laugh I'm not looking to promote anything but myself and I think if other people was more honest with themselves they are the same as I


All I wanted to know was what's in it for bury metro??

budfish 26-06-2011 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minke (Post 520054)
I've never said the phrase you just mentioned Bud. If you are referring to the heat where the speedo connection broke ( 3 camber links too surprisingly) that was also the day you trashed your lazer

If stu wants to hold the meeting at Bury then thats fine by me, just dont need the"'what's in it for me?" from the "I'm awesome" crowd.

The best part from the last meeting for me was helping the young lad with his rtr rat. Replaced his melted idler, showed him how to set the diff and slipper and asked rog if he could race. Before Phil chips in with another invaluble comment, I can build a solid diff, and havent had to touch any of mine in any of my cars. Hopefully the new guy turns up next week and I can show him some more stuff, just didnt have enough time.

Stu and Rob have been the main sources of help at my time at the club ( couple of other helpers I can't name). Everything else i've learnt and done myself.

Shame there is a minority who behave like prima donnas rather than helping someone establish themselves

Is that your practice speech for ansmann have talent??

minke 26-06-2011 08:38 PM

Never will be good enough to race at a high level, or so the 'banter' goes. I race on a budget and dont have a lot of free time anyway. No, I havent applied, I'm a builder and tinkerer before a driver.

captainlip 26-06-2011 09:20 PM

Hahaha mike you have just made my night! A builder not a driver! Try making a car that will last one heat!

And you giving advise out? Figure out how your gear works and runs first before giving out advice to others who might be mislead.

Back on topic though, this would be great for the club for seeing more people see what a good club we have!

And in response to dudders there is alot of bante on here and it's all harmless, come up to bury and you will see bury has some of the best members I've come across regardless of what's said on here!

I've been to other clubs and seen some right numptys compared to bury.

minke 26-06-2011 09:53 PM

last meet going from memory here (b-max)

3 x 4th place finishes
1 x shock bottom stripped
1 x stripped spur (first time thats happened)

Laptop failure during final, I'm sure roger will confirm. Did 10 laps but final position unknown.

While i'm at it Phil maybe you could pipe down with the kamikaze comments since the last collision with you in my heat involved you ramming the back of my car at the entry to the cross humps. Afterwards johnynitro said I shoulda moved over, maybe so but I didnt see you closing. Gobbing off on the rostrum you have plenty of form for, and it amused me to see your other post calling others for the same thing.

captainlip 26-06-2011 10:05 PM

3 x 4ths in the b class heat hahaha! The other one was on fire and he still finished ahead if you! Check the times!

And if people are telling you to move over shouldn't that mean your in people paths to often?

I'm leaving my talking to the race track now, if you claim your building is better than your racing that's almost laughable as I've forgotten the last time you finished a heat :D

If a car burns out in smoke and still beats you that raises some questions.

Anyway let get the event running so mike can receive sone build tips.

Col 26-06-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainlip (Post 520134)

I'm leaving my talking to the race track now

That's always assuming you can overtake slower drivers without cutting the track... (just a rumour I heard once or twice)

captainlip 26-06-2011 10:18 PM

No I don't cut the track to pass slower cars. Chinese whispers again

coleman758 26-06-2011 10:19 PM

Haha calm down guys! It's only a commercial!

Saying that I did be you mike, and my car was very much on fire!

minke 26-06-2011 10:36 PM

Yeah, but pretty sure I was already out in that heat. I was on the track collecting the car from a marshal when I saw yours go. I got to watch buds flailing at it with pliers after it was removed from the track.

Tough car though. What was it melted strap, blackened shell and slightly melted cf brace? Unlucky. Thought it may have been caused by Phil shrapnel at first.

Maybe my b-max will die such a glorious death.

I think i'm done with this thread, I'll acknowlege we have some great drivers at bury, some just need to disconnect their tekins from their mouths

captainlip 26-06-2011 10:45 PM

Off topic

coleman758 26-06-2011 11:04 PM

My cars far far from dead :)

It's now better than ever! Bring on Sunday!

les 27-06-2011 09:33 AM

ansmann day
 
i dont see a problem with ansmann running a open day at burys track it will just be like a normal meeting with everybody runing there own gear and if ansmann do donate some stuff to club it wont be a big deal to give everyone who turns up a free race meeting at the end of the day ansmann want drivers of all ability to race and use there products they are offering out drives that means discounts on stuff its going to help out people with the cost of racing so why cant bury help out ansmann and use the track its no big deal

mattb 27-06-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by les (Post 520230)
i dont see a problem with ansmann running a open day at burys track it will just be like a normal meeting with everybody runing there own gear and if ansmann do donate some stuff to club it wont be a big deal to give everyone who turns up a free race meeting at the end of the day ansmann want drivers of all ability to race and use there products they are offering out drives that means discounts on stuff its going to help out people with the cost of racing so why cant bury help out ansmann and use the track its no big deal

I agree les

captainlip 27-06-2011 10:53 AM

I hope it gets the go ahead and see a strong turnout!

budfish 27-06-2011 10:56 AM

Ansmann is a comercial enterprise and the whole reason they are involved in rc is to make money it's a multinational company.

Les I like your idea of running ansmann got talent as a free meeting so the bury members will pay for their days racing while the ansmann got talent lot race for free. Think it might rub the bury members up the wrong way who have given up their own time on a saturday and Sunday to sort all the manual work side ie steps, sand, markings are just a few of the things us as bury members have undertaken to make it possible.

I think it would be better for the club to run it as a normal meeting with normal prices at least the club will make money

Buds

woOdy 27-06-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 520274)
Ansmann is a comercial enterprise and the whole reason they are involved in rc is to make money it's a multinational company.

Les I like your idea of running ansmann got talent as a free meeting so the bury members will pay for their days racing while the ansmann got talent lot race for free. Think it might rub the bury members up the wrong way who have given up their own time on a saturday and Sunday to sort all the manual work side ie steps, sand, markings are just a few of the things us as bury members have undertaken to make it possible.

I think it would be better for the club to run it as a normal meeting with normal prices at least the club will make money

Buds

Just to let everybody know, It was only an idea. There has been several clubs show an interest so if the Bury Members do not want to be involved then I am sure the other clubs will more than happy run the meeting for us.

Stotty 27-06-2011 11:26 AM

A vote is needed by club members really to get this sorted.

captainlip 27-06-2011 11:48 AM

I'd vote for it stu! But it be nice to see bury member having a free meet for the effort or setup of the track.

G-46 27-06-2011 11:55 AM

This would be massive for the club

Yes club members would miss out on an afternoons racing and the income from it but look at the positives.

You would have around 100 new visitors to the club that may not normally race at Bury which could lead to new members.

Massive advertisement for the club (detail at time I can’t say) which again could lead to new members.

Plus what’s to stop you from trying out, you not got the balls

Yes I know I’m not a member but look at the positives

Si Coe 27-06-2011 12:15 PM

It is true that the meeting would be good publicity - it would be nice to be asked though.

I think the meeting should be free to entrants - that is not the same as we lend out the track for free. Other clubs rent out their facilities for some event not run by them, or at the very least get a take of the entry fees. Nobody loans out their track for nothing.
It doesn't need to be cash though. A few bits and pieces we could give away as prizes for a series or grand prix event would be good enough.

budfish 27-06-2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woOdy (Post 520277)
Just to let everybody know, It was only an idea. There has been several clubs show an interest so if the Bury Members do not want to be involved then I am sure the other clubs will more than happy run the meeting for us.

It would be nice to make an informed choice with all the facts infront of us.
And I can see some benefits from this to the club and individuals.

G-46 27-06-2011 01:14 PM

I personally think that you all may have jumped to conclusions with this, Stu and Ansmann have only stated that they are only thinking of Bury and Harts as the two events.

I think then when they have a better idea and plan they will ask both clubs as a company, I know that Aansmann are having chats with Harts club just like Stu (Ansmann) will with Bury.

Dates have not even been looked at for the event and all is just Chinese whispers at the min. I would of thought that you as a club would love to have this massive event instead of just kicking it down..

les 27-06-2011 01:37 PM

put on a good meeting and get some good publistiy and you never no bury might get a national meeting again or would the members not like that

budfish 27-06-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-46 (Post 520329)
I personally think that you all may have jumped to conclusions with this, Stu and Ansmann have only stated that they are only thinking of Bury and Harts as the two events.

I think then when they have a better idea and plan they will ask both clubs as a company, I know that Aansmann are having chats with Harts club just like Stu (Ansmann) will with Bury.

Dates have not even been looked at for the event and all is just Chinese whispers at the min. I would of thought that you as a club would love to have this massive event instead of just kicking it down..


:thumbsup:

mattb 27-06-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 520307)
It is true that the meeting would be good publicity - it would be nice to be asked though.

I think the meeting should be free to entrants - that is not the same as we lend out the track for free. Other clubs rent out their facilities for some event not run by them, or at the very least get a take of the entry fees. Nobody loans out their track for nothing.
It doesn't need to be cash though. A few bits and pieces we could give away as prizes for a series or grand prix event would be good enough.

si i know no one rents out their track for nothing,but its not any old track to stu,i think he was probably thinking his mates at bury metro wouldent mind and help him out.

les 27-06-2011 03:50 PM

its called bury metro buggy club so its has been funded and built by bury metro so that must mean its for all the comuinity to use its not privatley owned its not run as buiness so why does it alway have to make money everytime its used whats wrong with a few free meetings to get new people interested if they run the ansmann meet everyone will be welcome including all the bury members it would be a good day we could get the local paper down get it in the bury times i no someone who works there no probs no point in making loads of fuss over it just get it run have a good days racing and enjoy it after all its a hobby thats why we do it for fun

budfish 27-06-2011 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by les (Post 520389)
its called bury metro buggy club so its has been funded and built by bury metro so that must mean its for all the comuinity to use its not privatley owned its not run as buiness so why does it alway have to make money everytime its used whats wrong with a few free meetings to get new people interested if they run the ansmann meet everyone will be welcome including all the bury members it would be a good day we could get the local paper down get it in the bury times i no someone who works there no probs no point in making loads of fuss over it just get it run have a good days racing and enjoy it after all its a hobby thats why we do it for fun

Just to add les is a ansmann sponsored driver bit of a conflict of intrest ?? For the points you are making

pugboy 27-06-2011 04:12 PM

Sounds like a great idea to me to promote the Bury club and Ansmann all in one go IMHO, and I have no connection with Ansmann, I'm Losi til I die!


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