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captainlip 30-05-2011 01:41 PM

Big bores feedback!
 
Just for those considering these as an upgrade the result is....... You defo need to get some!

They are so much better, more predictable, stable and even better over the jumps! They are a worthy investment and would recommend these all day long!

Thumbs up to Durango for making such a fantastic product that's worth the investment!!!!!

Not tried them outdoors yer due to weather but can see these are going to be good!!!!

My setup so far is

Front
Dark blue 2 hole piston 45wt oil

Rear
Light blue 3 hole piston 35wt oil

tomtom 30-05-2011 02:36 PM

Sounds good !

Received mine this morning, build them quickly (very nice ones)
and start with AE35/6x1.2 front and AE30/6x1.3 rear but will try
Craig setup this week.

captainlip 30-05-2011 02:46 PM

Forgot to add I'm running 4mm droop on the front and 2mm on the rear on the shock collars

Dazzler 30-05-2011 03:03 PM

Don't you mean pre-load not droop.

captainlip 30-05-2011 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler (Post 508449)
Don't you mean pre-load not droop.

That's the sh1t I'm talking about haha!

Big G 30-05-2011 07:07 PM

all big bore pistons are 6 hole in the kit.. did you mod them to make 2 and 3?

captainlip 30-05-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big G (Post 508580)
all big bore pistons are 6 hole in the kit.. did you mod them to make 2 and 3?

Just glue the holes up advice from Craig collison himself!

wacattack 30-05-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainlip (Post 508409)
Just for those considering these as an upgrade the result is....... You defo need to get some!

They are so much better, more predictable, stable and even better over the jumps! They are a worthy investment and would recommend these all day long!

Thumbs up to Durango for making such a fantastic product that's worth the investment!!!!!

Not tried them outdoors yer due to weather but can see these are going to be good!!!!

My setup so far is

Front
Dark blue 2 hole piston 45wt oil

Rear
Light blue 3 hole piston 35wt oil

Looks like someone's hacked captainlips oople account, he's saying something complimentary about Durango! :woot:

paulc 30-05-2011 10:11 PM

:lol:

tomtom 31-05-2011 04:47 PM

Captainlip,

Piston holes redrilled to 1.7-1.8 mm like Craig suggestion ?

AE oil ?

Thanks !

captainlip 31-05-2011 04:58 PM

No I haven't drilled them out and I'm using fastrax oils

tomtom 31-05-2011 05:00 PM

What holes size did you choose then ?

6 holes were far too smooth for me.

Thanks !!

TonyM 31-05-2011 05:09 PM

I ran mine at Southport at the weekend. To be quite honest I didn't notice much difference between the big-bore and standard shocks. Probably just a tad quicker on recovery. There again Southport doesn't have any large jumps, nor very ripply sections, so not a thorough test for shocks.

What I ran was:
Front
6 x 1.2 hole pistons
Dark Blue spring
35WT Losi oil

Rear
6 x 1.3 hole pistons
Light Blue Spring
30Wt Losi oil

I should add that in my standard shocks I've been running the tapered Ghea 1.2 and 1.3 pistons.

I'd like to see some big-bore set-ups from the team drivers. EDIT just seen Craig's and Adam's for RHR.

Big G 31-05-2011 10:46 PM

exactly the same as I'm running Tony

asc6000 01-06-2011 04:25 AM

not very impressed myself, they seep and the shafts look worn out after only a few days of use. revamped piston holes made them work much better, I glued all the holes shut and whipped out my pin vise and the drill bits, set of ten bits from 1.06mm to 1.6mm, using 3 holes, not all the same size. junk shafts and seals, time will tell when the coating is going to wear off the inside of the shock body. they sure look good though :woot:

Hulk 01-06-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asc6000 (Post 509276)
not very impressed myself, they seep and the shafts look worn out after only a few days of use. revamped piston holes made them work much better, I glued all the holes shut and whipped out my pin vise and the drill bits, set of ten bits from 1.06mm to 1.6mm, using 3 holes, not all the same size. junk shafts and seals, time will tell when the coating is going to wear off the inside of the shock body. they sure look good though :woot:

Ive been running them for over a month now and mine don't seep at all. The shock shafts and seals are exactly the same as the standard shocks, which i used for the whole season last year with no sign of wear. In regards to time telling if the coating will wear off the inside of the shock body, they have already stood the test of time. Adam and Nathan have been using the shocks for months and reported NO WEAR AT ALL.

Once you get the shocks set up to your liking, there a fantastic addition to the car :thumbsup:

Craig

wacattack 01-06-2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulk (Post 509347)

Once you get the shocks set up to your liking, there a fantastic addition to the car :thumbsup:

Craig

"They are" or "they're" a fantastic addition to the car, not "there" a fantastic addition to the car haha :p

captainlip 01-06-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulk (Post 509347)
Ive been running them for over a month now and mine don't seep at all. The shock shafts and seals are exactly the same as the standard shocks, which i used for the whole season last year with no sign of wear. In regards to time telling if the coating will wear off the inside of the shock body, they have already stood the test of time. Adam and Nathan have been using the shocks for months and reported NO WEAR AT ALL.

Once you get the shocks set up to your liking, there a fantastic addition to the car :thumbsup:

Craig

Have to agree with you Craig!!! To add I've never had any leakage with durango shocks. Could it be the final washer is put in the wrong way round? May be worth a check!

Looking forward to running these at bury!

Hulk 01-06-2011 08:58 AM

So you can actually read the thread this time!! GAY BOY! :p

This is not a spelling contest, im replying whilst at work! Multitasking has never been one of my strengths lol.

I was gonna really wind you up and reply in typical Collinson fashion, but was afraid if i put what i was going to, you might cry! haha.

TonyM 01-06-2011 09:37 AM

I've never had a problem with leaking on the standard shocks and as the Big-Bore are the same 'O' rings washers, shaft etc, I don't expect to have any problem with them as well.

Nigel 06-06-2011 08:16 PM

what big bores are they? these http://www.team-durango.com/part-inf...artNo=TD230005
or these? http://www.team-durango.com/part-inf...artNo=TD230004

also what ones are bigger? (i like big shocks :p)

Big G 06-06-2011 09:33 PM

23mm are the fronts. 31mm are the rears.

Nigel 06-06-2011 10:12 PM

ok thanks :thumbsup: and you guys fined these are a big step up from stock?

jimmy 06-06-2011 10:58 PM

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-...res-guide1.jpg

RC John 13-06-2011 03:28 PM

Does anyone know what springs the big bore kits come with?

Hulk 13-06-2011 03:32 PM

Light Blue rear

Dark Blue fronts

RC John 13-06-2011 05:39 PM

Thanks Hulk

Question for those that have been running the big bores. What differences in handling have you noticed between stock shocks and big bores?

Hulk 14-06-2011 08:59 AM

Hi mate,

the car just feels more planted and stable with big bores. Your able to push the car harder without fear of it doing anything random over bumps. The car also lands better on the big jumps.

Craig

coleman758 14-06-2011 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulk (Post 514690)
Hi mate,

the car just feels more planted and stable with big bores. Your able to push the car harder without fear of it doing anything random over bumps. The car also lands better on the big jumps.

Craig

Do you have any setup sheets for the full car using big bores??

Hulk 14-06-2011 09:22 AM

http://www.team-durango.com/pdf/setu...n_08_05_11.pdf

http://www.team-durango.com/pdf/setu...29_05_2011.pdf

There you go mate :thumbsup:

Hulk 14-06-2011 09:40 AM

Also just go onto TD's website and look at most of 2011's set ups. Adam Skelding and Nathan Waters have been running the big bores for around 6 months, there set up sheets are also on the website.

http://www.team-durango.com/in-the-p...001&country=gb

Craig

RC John 14-06-2011 06:31 PM

Does anyone know the reason behind plugging the 6 hole pistons to 2 or 3 and then drill them larger?

Big G 15-06-2011 10:19 AM

I modded mine to 2x1.8mm (front) and 3x1.7mm (rear) and loaded them up with 35/30wt CML/Fastrax oil after Craig's (Hulk) advice.

Instantly I had doubts as the car felt so light and bouncy compared to my previous setup of 6x1.2mm (f) and 6x1.3mm (r). Last night ran them at Ludlow (very bumpy grass) and the car was transformed! It just ate the bumps for breakfast. The smaller bumps I didn't even notice and the larger ones that were throwing a lot of cars up into crashes it lifted, but once back on the ground carried on without a sniff of being unstable.

My Dad's SX on big bores looked very lively compared to mine!

Just need to test it over jumps, but I'm feeling very confident going into Kiddy on Sunday :D

andys 02-07-2011 11:33 AM

Bought some 3x1.7 and 2x1.8 pistons as craigs setup.

The front feels silly bouncy, Ive kept uping the front oil weight, I'm at 50wt now and it still feels wrong and far too light on the bench. I'm using the dark blue springs too.

Whats going on, this can't be right !!!!

Hulk 02-07-2011 11:46 AM

Where did you buy your pistons from Andy?

Are they not standard Durango pistons that you've glued up?

Craig

andys 02-07-2011 11:57 AM

Hi Craig
Bought them from Nick I think, chap on here who sells tapered pistons for Losi and the Durango.
I didn't have the drill bit sizes to drill them myself so I just ordered the right sizes.

Also, when removing the kit pistons, all 4 have a bit that's broke away around where the screw goes through, so they are buggered, almost looks like a washer the piece that's come away....

Just put 42.5 in the rear to get it feeling something like, I'm confused !
Cheers

Andy

Hulk 02-07-2011 12:10 PM

That fact you say the pistons are damaged can't be helping! lol.

Also if your using tapered pistons, they feel a lot lighter and bouncy compared to standard pistons.

Ive just got standard Durango pistons which ive glued up and drilled out myself. My car doesnt feel bouncy at all, even when pushing the suspension up and down whilst the car is on the bench.

Im on 3 hole pistons 1.7mm rears, 27.5wt oil, light blue springs. For the front im on 2 hole 1.8mm, 45wt, dark blue springs.

The front actually feels quite stiff, so im really not sure whats going on with yours :confused:.

Can only put it down to using non standard durango pistons, which are tapered and possibly damaged.

Craig

Hulk 02-07-2011 12:13 PM

I take it you are referring to the big bore shocks, and not the standard ones?

andys 02-07-2011 12:18 PM

Hi Craig.

It was the kit pistons I replaced that were damaged !
Only one run on them too ?

I've got 50wt front, 42.5 rear, big bores with kit springs, new tapered pistons, 2x1.8 3x1.7

Feels all wrong on the front, much lighter than I'd normally run, rear seems ok, still a bit light !

Are you at Batley tomorrow ?

Hulk 02-07-2011 12:36 PM

The reason your shocks feel wrong with 1.8 and 1.7mm pistons is becasuse your using tapered pistons.

With tapered pistons i would try something like 3 hole 1.5 in the rear and 2 hole 1.6 in the front.

Your currently using my set up which is for standard pistons, not tapered.

I won't be at Batley tomorrow unfortunately.


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