12 hour endur ????
 

Hi all

Eney one Fancy doing an 12 hour endur in teams
This is a good way to raise money for the club,i have seen this in ather motor sport so lets do it with are buggys.
would have to clear it first with stev b and comittee first
Teams of 3/4/5 with 10 teams .
Say just an idear

THANKS

STUART

sounds good would be a laugh

Could enter team usless adam, dean, james and craig with the moto as you said hit the orange rat ha ha

Sounds like a plan.. I will have to get some bigger batterys!!!!!
Have u sorted the couger sv out ?

Guys

A fair idea and may be worth organising, maybe worth considering:

1. 6hrs 10am - 4pm
2. 6 - 8 teams of 6 - 8 team members
3. Mixed teams with good and not so good to break up any dominance
4. Trophies for all up to 6 teams members 1 to 3
5. ideally someone has 2 of the same pt numbers to share between all drivers
6. Teams must only Marshall their teams car!
7. Non stop running unless lunch is provided by someone
8. 50 quid entry a team
9. One with most laps and best time wins
10. Everyone has their turn, no one driver does all the driving, as much as I would like to
11. Teams to be dicided by race director once team entry has been submitted
12. Team captain must be chosen and control order of drivers
13. Prize for best single lap?
14. Schumacher controlled tyre if supported
15. Maybe a yearly trophy with engraved team name and team members names?
16. There must be a Team name
17.

Lots to consider, I think a good idea but ideally a Particular weekend and some support with planning?

This is something I will help with but not totally facilitate offers would be required?

Thks Steve
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No not yet will do it friday, going to buy a cheap esc and motor for the rat as well, I will run that for fun a few times.

Looking foward to running the cougar this sunday.

Cool I p m you c u then

That sounds spot on

Team Fandango!

6 boys from Clanfield did a similar thing last year it included fitting a flywheel and clutch, fitting the engine in the car, running it in and as many laps as possible in a set time period, i think driver change was every half an hour.

All engines were new and supplied as the clock started running.

cracking idea, and i think Steve has some great ideas.

When i used to race years ago (1700 SCR and 13x2 motors!), we used to have an annual 5 hour race at a club in Ashford, Kent. It was the highlight of most racers year. This was back in the old manual lap counting days, so a pit stop was pull in to the rostrum and swap the velcro backed number from one car to the next!

If your club has hand out transponders, then these could be used. Either two of the same number for each team, or only one, forcing a "swap" of the transponder in a pit stop?

I'd certainly be keen to join a team. The problem with the 24 races is the wear on cars/equipment, hence the need to usually club together for a one-off chassis. But a 5-6 hour event with a team of 5 means only an hours running per car and only a few charges per pack of cells.

sounds like a hoot. I really enjoyed my visit on sunday thank you. Will you supply the friends? or would one need to bring a whole team?

Basically, money up front I think to ensure participation, but I think a team application form and a single form to ensure we can link up the drivers?

Would be quite exciting if the teams were set up fairly and everyone has a chance, lots can happen over six hours, maybe some extra twists could be thought up and add some more value to the meeting? :)

Good feedback so far ,i am willing to help run the day if ok with stev.
put names in hat and pull names out for teams .
if you can think off was to spice thing up let us know like half way through the day stop and run the other way???????

Pit stop with wheel changes, i would pay In advanced

I guess driver stints would be the safe running time of your lipo before it cuts off, also any more than 20 mins and we would have fried esc and melted motors. Tyre changes and maintenance would be done within your downtime between stints.

If you have teams that are running the same chassis then you could have a common shell that gets transferred with a transponder attatched (although they probably won't last 6 hours without charging)

Dean - we should do a TORCH old boys team.......

I like the idea, sounds like a plan !

How about having teams made up of makes of car, for example there are enough rango's for a team plus schumachers

then Steve would be the Tamiya Stig ! :p oh and Mark. :p this idea sounds better and better............

Sounds good, looks like this enduro is a go er
you could copy the le man format of 2 types of car
but are case drivers.
Which ever you decide it will be a bit of fun

Sounds like fun!

Welcome to use my transponders for this if it helps. I have 2 full sets of handout amb 20 units.

well up for it, and making it competative at all standards will be a good thing so Steve would need to be in a team with craig for instance and work it like that.

Im not sure this is possible but also all having the same cars for each team running the race would mean it would fair, so setting a standard like a madrat with an 8.5 turn motor etc etc.

This means with the teams sorted out by standard and the cars the same it all down to the driver that look after the cars etc etc.

Steve definately up for this and i expect a few more of the Rango crew from Clanfield will be as well, so can you look at both the Clanfield and Slough dates when you fix a date for this to happen.

I think the best way to do things is for each driver to have there own car
and when you change drivers all you will have to do is put the transponder into the new car ,this means you team mates will have to do this making it more of a team event and if your car backs down a new diver cannot run untill your car is fixed and finish that lap ,say this are just idears

i quite like the idea of of standard cars across the field, but then you run into the issue of the electrics, as no one will want their bits used and ruined, therefore pushing up the entry cost. I think these things are fine for the 24 hour races where the car will get truly hammered, but for a 6 hour team event where each car is going to only get an hour or so on the track i think it's fine to use your own cars.

Most racers will have reasonable kit these days, and if there are a handful of beginners with madrats etc then just ensure they are split evenly among the teams so they can get some decent guidance and level the field.

The main question is how to pick the teams. Some poeple will want to form their own teams and will be put off by the random "out of a hat" method. But if you want to try and ensure close racing across all teams then i think you will need to rank drivers in some sort of ability score (F rating would be good, but you do get a few bandit F5 drivers, *cough* SteveB at last years F3 finals!!).
These events are never much fun when you get some "factory" team of F1's turn up and wipe the floor with everyone.

yes if there are team with 5drivres with stev b skills do not want to get laped 500 time ,so i think names out of a hat or if stev b picks the teams is the best way to make it as fear as poss .
This is a fun event and a good way to get more money into the club so we can make TORCH even better
will have to sit down with stev b and find the best way to run it.if eney one has eney idears let us know and try to make it as much fun as poss

Sure we can come up with some sort of driver ability scale that will allow us to sort teams into some sort of fair groupings - if the higher ability drivers have a higher score and your whole team cannot be above a certain total score then people can still be in teams with their mates but not make a team out of all superstars.

Need to try and keep rules as few and simple as possible because they will have to be fairly self-policing - if we are all in the same race, there won't be anyone to sit in race control and check people are complying with a long list of rules about marshalling or the length of driver stints.

How about:

1. One transponder per team
2. Teams of 5 cars/drivers - see above for ability sorting.
3. Marshall your own team car
4. Cars must enter track where the previous car left - ideally by the current start line but if car breaks down, need to enter where previous car left.
5. Don't race if you are going to take it seriously

Am speaking with Steve about possible dates and yes, we are taking into account Slough/Clanfield dates.

Rob

Ok, a date has been nominated, but would like to see some feedback, this will not clash with 1/8th Slough or Clanfield, so hoping to see a couple of teams from the 1/8th guys.

Key thing I will not allow a too many better drivers in on a team, so please start making your suggestions? Mix it up, remember a team with Phil Williams, Dan Brown, Mark Townsend, Jason Moggy, Simon Crabby and James Pickard for example, would be a white wash and this would be unfair to all other competitors.

I suggest Team Captains if willing :

Phil Williams - plus 5 - 7 selected team members
Dan Brown - as above
Mark Townsend
Rob Warren
Jason Moggy
Simon Crabby
James Pickard

or submitted teams by application and will be excepted if fair team.

If this is to become something, I would like to see more people speak up and make themselves known.

Steve

Sorry Rob, did not realise you were on the case, cheers

Steve Rob will talk to the Clanners at Slough on Sunday and let you know the feedback from them!

I have been with Steve B today. We have been talking how to run the event. Teams will have a Team Captain, who will run the team as he sees fit and to make sure no rules are broken.

Will be making up a registration form for teams as soon as Steve has arranged a date. These forms will then be available.

If you are interested doing this event, please let Steve B know asap, as teams are limited. (will not all fit on rostrom)

This is a fun event with good trophys and will hopefully organise a food van for the day.

Definitely interested in this. Only non clanfield date I cant do is the 10th July as I'm at Zandvoort.

I can also supply BMCR's fleet of mad rats for people who want a go. Got two slow brushed rtr's and a fast brushless rtr.

I would love to say 100% yes, but with a baby due soon i can't guarantee. I would of thought it should be ok though. :)

count me in :thumbsup:

is it going to be mixed classes in each team say you got 2 have 3 2wd and 3 4wd in each team ?

any chance of sharing the proposed date for feedback? I'm guessing it would have to avoid 10th nationals and mid south regionals too?

could i enter a schumacher south east team with me, Grant Williams, Dave Poulter, Nathan Ralls and Ross Williams?!!! lol
Just kidding, no idea if they would be up for it. :D

Martin to be honest Rob got it right in his comments, lets not make it any more complicated than it needs to be.

Once all enough drivers have shouted there up for it, we can start making it happen and setting out a guide for racing my we will not lock down 2 and 4, u race what ever you have. There is not allot between the 2 anyway.

So far:

Rob E
Mart B
Steve B Jr
Stu Don
Steve B Sn
Dan B
Racing Ben
Dean
Adam
Chris
Dave O?
Dave M
Chef
Jim76
Rob W
Neil R
Lee D

17 so we will have 3 teams :thumbsup:


More will come :D

Being bit of a div with earlier post, we will be looking at the 4th September, but open to suggestions, maybe as late as October if people have more time in the calender.

Ross would be all the handicap the team would need :p

Sounds good, be great to get some real competitiveness between teams. Also maybe able to drum up a little more support from Schumacher?:)

ouch! Ross will beat you when he sees you!

I obviously can't speak for Schumacher at all, i was just messing around with a biased hopefully fast team! But if you get a decent level of anticipated drivers and are running it as a control tyre on minispikes then it can't hurt to approach Schumacher. They may be able to help out in some way. Possibly make it an annual event!

the 4th Sept is the weekend of the regional finals/F2's
the 18th is the F3/4/5's
So may be better to push it back into Oct? But i don't know how that clashes with other local club events and RallyX

count me in

craig

I'd love to come:thumbsup: