Lee Martin takes 4WD 10th BRCA National @ RHR
 

Lee Martin took his second 4WD National victory from two rounds on Sunday 8th May 2011 at the RobinHood Raceway BRCA 10th off road national.


Lee took the opening round of qualifying with his Tamiya TRF511 and other than losing out to Tom Cockerill in the second round - Lee dominated the proceedings to grab overall TQ and win all three legs of the A-final in style.

With two wins from the opening two rounds of the series, Lee Martin is already looking good for another title.

A full report will be online soon, only on oOple.com

Check out a lap with Lee Martin during qualifying at the RHR national:

Nice one leeroy!! even got the wookie grrrrrrrrrr going on in the photo;)
Cracking display of driving

Nice one! Must be them yellow springs on the rear...

He looks like a warrior going to war with that massive shield, and his weapon i mean 511 out to slay the enemy!

Kyosho springs?

Yep! Kyosho yellow. Harder than a tamiya yellow but softer than a tamiya blue.
And no need to cut a coil off.

seems i got the perfect 4wd buggy platform this year :wub:D

Kyosho Dark Yellow or Kyosho Yellow? They look Dark.

Must be #65's - the "other" yellow (kind of an orangey/yellow colour) springs are very soft...

They are yellow rear - I know as I gave them to him - LOL

Hmm, I don't think so, the #65's are a touch harder than Tamiya Blues according to a chart I have here. :confused:

I think they are #60's?

rate for the Kyosho Yellow is 2.06
Sorry I don't know the Tamiya rates to compare

Tamiya yellow is 1.84 according to my chart. Also Tamiya blue is rated as 2.02 but is actually 2.05.

Got the info from this chart http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/BuggySpringChart.pdf

On my chart
tamiya blues are rated at 2.02
Kyosho yellows are rated at 2.02

They are both very similar then :confused:

does the rate change if you cut coils off?

It maybe so you dont have to cut the coils off like you do with tamiya springs when running lipos

And it did look like he was running his ride height quite low sunday.

I was told they are between Tamiya yellow and blue, but haven't checked.

In terms of using them, to myself they certainly didn't seem stiffer than the Tamiya blue, from the handling to me they felt mildly stiffer than Tamiya yellow, but compensated by feeling slightly "better" (hard to explain) than the Tamiya yellow, maybe more consistent, which may be due to either the fact the Tamiya spring is cut (which I don't like) or, from memory, I think the Kyosho spring has more coils, maybe that helps the "feel"!?

Smoke, mirrors, voodoo, magic.

Haha, maybe, all I know is, when I made the change it had the effect of:

1. Taking 2 specific bumps better on the main straight, it kicked less
2. Slightly better rotation in corners

So a pretty good combo for me, stiffer feel in corners, better on bumps, the problem being that there were other setup changes and of course track conditions can change, so having used them once I can't say for sure they are better.

In general though, now you can add further toe-in to the Tamiya, I've been wanting to go stiffer but add toe to offset, and this is one way of doing it.

Also, I do think an uncut spring will be better/more consistent than a cut one...

They are slightly bigger Mike so dont foul the shock bodies

Actual rates are stated here http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...52&postcount=6

Dark yellow #60 is around that figure, it looks like Lee was using Yellow #65 springs in the picture though.

Sadly never had any Tamiya springs to measure so can't be sure of the rates, sorry.

I've often been a fan of AE silvers on the rear. Very similar weight. But a lot of people don't like them for whatever reason. Maybe it's the feel thing?

Well, will soon find out, the one's I had off Tony at the weekend definitely were the same colour as Pidge's, and I have #65's on their way to me in the post, if they match then it was #65's being used!

Am I right or wrong on cut springs not been as consistent??

dont think so as myself and lee did it on AE springs at a race somewhere as we couldnt get the ride height on a full spring

Dave and Lee both had Kyosho Yellow 65 2.06 rated rear springs from me.
Not complicated really lads! - LOL

Lee wins the national and you guys ramble about springs for an entire page!

Well done Lee :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :wub


so wich gears he used?

what colour socks was he using sure it made the car jump better.

and those laces wow!!!! they were very sooo fast.

well done Lee and Braders

At least its not about sand :blush: .. Sorry, we put some serious effort into putting on a great event for you guys and thought the sand in the new astro was all sorted - those of you who saw the track on friday night would have seen how well prepared it was. Hopefully all the off-track facilities made up for it :thumbsup:


Great job Brad-Lee :thumbsup:

setup
 

Do anyone have the setup from lee, that he used in the weekend.. i would like that.

going to race here this weekend on astroturf to.

Of the many things the thread could have disintegrated into, this is pretty mild Vicky!!:lol:

Well done Pidge!

Well done, Lee!!!! I don't care what springs you run, dude. Awesome display as usual. It would probably be best for the rest of us if you didn't run any springs at all. Sorry you didn't find your sun glasses, but at least your wife leant you hers for the pic :lol:

Well done, James
Track 90% (only due to the obvious, both layouts excellent!)
Off track 110%
Great all round score!!! :thumbsup: (my opinion only, obviously)

Less coils = harder spring !

It's a mechanic rulle !

We already used Kyosho yellow springs on the 501X, it's a Hupo tips from 2007 !

Also have to consider wire size, section (round/oval/square etc.) and material (although there isn't much better the various grades of spring steel commonly used in RC)

Also how many coats of yellow paint did they have on? I hope mine have the same otherwise i will never win a national!

I don't know what you lot are on about!

Just watched the video and my old hornet could have gone round the track faster than that. And what's with that marshall, never seen one move so slow? :woot:

Here ya go, this is a little bit quicker! :thumbsup: Watch in HD for maximum best

Professional quality there Jimmy :woot: