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dancoog 29-03-2011 02:16 AM

SCX-E (SEXY) Short course
 
SpeedyDad asked me to post these pics that I took of Alex's short course from the Cactus Classic.
Chris Krieg hand made this two deck chassis from carbon fiber braced with some aluminum standoffs. The chassis is super detailed and has a very high quality finish as with all of Chris Krieg's creations.

I have affectionately nicknamed it the SCX-E (SEXY)

https://picasaweb.google.com/1169054...eat=directlink
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SpeedyDad 29-03-2011 03:10 AM

I created this truck as a "what if" vehicle to see if I could make it. Hand making chassis is fun but it takes time and I wanted to see if I could make something that could be produced on a larger scale without making a mold. I now have two of them. What you see is the second truck. Alexdrives this one. I'll be running the first one for further testing. The only difference is the way the battery is oriented.

SC racing is my passion. I wanted to take it to the next level.

I have been asked how long it is. It looks really long but is the same wheelbase as the SCX-60.

What do you guys think? Is there interest in a truck like this?

mrspeedy 29-03-2011 07:40 AM

Links not working guys ...

SpeedyDad 29-03-2011 04:41 PM

Try this one

https://picasaweb.google.com/1169054...at=directlink#

colmo 29-03-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedyDad (Post 482181)
I created this truck as a "what if" vehicle to see if I could make it. Hand making chassis is fun but it takes time and I wanted to see if I could make something that could be produced on a larger scale without making a mold. I now have two of them. What you see is the second truck. Alexdrives this one. I'll be running the first one for further testing. The only difference is the way the battery is oriented.

SC racing is my passion. I wanted to take it to the next level.

I have been asked how long it is. It looks really long but is the same wheelbase as the SCX-60.

What do you guys think? Is there interest in a truck like this?

Short Course is still finding it's feet in the UK - one thing that's happening is nitro clubs (driven by the harsh economic situation) are opening their doors to electric, and the 2nd best electric class to run on a nitro track after 1/8th electric is SCT. Therefore, there's a potential market if it booms.

In my opinion (I'm only at this sport a few years, so my knowledge is all of recent developments), I suppose it's all down to cost, and whether it would be a conversion (I'm presuming using SC10/T4 parts?) or a kit. I'm not sure it could cost much more than the X6 equivalents, if that - there are 4wd kits out there for that sort of money.

It might be worth considering a cheaper material than carbon fibre for us plebs to more affordably smash up on the weekend!

For conversions, I think the stadium truck-to-SCT ones are the best, as there are a lot of T4s and E Firestorms out there gathering dust, or fetching a pittance on eBay.

SpeedyDad 29-03-2011 08:15 PM

If you look, XFactory already has an SC conversion and it is selling pretty well at its price. This is the next evolution of that.

colmo 29-03-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedyDad (Post 482825)
If you look, XFactory already has an SC conversion and it is selling pretty well at its price. This is the next evolution of that.

Aye, slightly forgot that when I posted. Nearly had a heart attack when I checked the price on DMS - hardly surprising as you're cutting and shutting every chassis by hand.

I've no idea how popular the SCW-60 is in the UK, DMS could maybe say more on that. To the most competitive racers, they'll go for the SCX-E because I'm sure it's performance is great. I can only speak for the regular, mediocre club racer - perhaps not your target market.

SpeedyDad 29-03-2011 09:58 PM

Every racer is my target racer. My racing skills are stock level at best. I build trucks I can drive. As far as the price goes, yes, the SCX-60 is expensive but I put a lot of work in to it and we never expected to sell many at that rate. We figured maybe a dozen sales. We've sold 65 and have orders for more on the books. I'm sure this truck, if produced, will be expensive to some as well, but it will be a pretty good truck.

The nice thing about this truck is that not being a molded tub, there is no mold to have to pay for and consider in the cost of the vehicle. The chassis and many of the parts can be made in-house which keeps the cost down. Right now, the only molded part on the new truck is the nose and it is an existing piece.

Darren Boyle 29-03-2011 11:06 PM

Looks very nice :thumbsup:

Sales for the SCX60 here in the UK have been steady, but we never in our wildest dreams expected to sell many due to two things - price and Short Course popualrity over here.

I ran an SCX60 at the the Maritime 2 day World Cup meeting last month and it was great fun, handled "really" well on kit tyres and ended up taking TQ and the win in a class I have never raced before.

Yes the SCX60 is very expensive, we always knew that, but sales and interest has surprised us all over here, showing people will pay for somthing if they really want it.

For those who dont want the expense of an all singing and dancing "race truck" we also sell the Exotek SCXT conversion for the Losi XXXT stadium trucks with an RRP of just over £50 here in the uk too, so we have the best of both worlds, a out and out racer and a cheapo conversion for the basher

SpeedyDad 07-04-2011 05:03 AM

More eye candy for you.

This is test chassis 1. It was Alex's original chassis until we built the newer slimmer version he runs now. Differences between this one and the newer one is the battery orientation. I just set this truck up for myself.

http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/Images/rc/SCXTest1.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/Images/rc/SCXTest2.jpg

YoungChazz 07-04-2011 05:32 PM

We are a long way from making the S.D.C.F. version.

In the meantime, however, the next four guys on the SC list are about to be shipped. Dad says the next batch of "regular" chassies should arrive here today or tomorrow. There are more chassies than that, and those Kits will go to dealers.

Our Dealer Family is in the same queue as the retail Family. Just as there are a couple of retail guys who will not get shipped because there are dealers ahead of them, there are several dealers who will not be shipped because of retail Family ahead of them.

SpeedyDad 30-07-2011 06:41 AM

So its been a while since we updated this thread. The SCX-60CF is being manufactured. We are finalizing the design and the first proto chassis and parts will be cut next week. Once we know everything fits, X Factory will move forward with production. Manual has to be written and all the other little stuff done. Maybe within the month.

Twister 30-07-2011 09:55 AM

s.c
 
good to know, keep us posted :) your truck is looking awesome !

hottuna 30-07-2011 08:06 PM

I see an X7 front here :thumbsup: :D

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z...0/IMGP3572.JPG

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7434.jpg

dancoog 31-07-2011 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottuna (Post 533524)

I'm afraid not. that is an X6 in the top pic and something else in the bottom..not quite sur what but its not an X7.. sorry.

hottuna 31-07-2011 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dancoog (Post 533618)
I'm afraid not. that is an X6 in the top pic and something else in the bottom..not quite sur what but its not an X7.. sorry.

It's my X7. I mean the aluminum parts that connects the front and top deck.

YoungChazz 31-07-2011 04:54 PM

Coog, a while ago Tuna produced a vehicle shown elsewhere on oOple which Tuna calls an X7. I don't know if Tuna is still campaigning it. It appeared to be very well made -- Tuna is a craftsman.

To be certain there is no confusion, regardless of what he calls it, Tuna's car is not an X Factory X - 7. We are now testing what we think is a very close to production prototype of the X Factory X - 7.

Speedy Dad, with permission and co-operation from X Factory, has made a number of cars for himself and his son Alex. They are both part of the X - Team, and their R & D has been valuable. Everyone knows that we have engaged Dad to produce the extended chassis for the SCX - 60, and that we are currently using Dad's design to make the SCX - 60CF.

I'm not sure what is in the pix above; to me it appears to be one of Dad's creations. Perhaps the pix are the Tuna car.

I can tell you this: The SCX - 60CF shares most of its parts with the X - 60, although its chassis and many parts are new. The X Factory X - 7 will share only a few parts with the current X - 6 Squared. I can't see anything in the pix here that will be on the X - 7.

hottuna 31-07-2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungChazz (Post 533734)
Coog, a while ago Tuna produced a vehicle shown elsewhere on oOple which Tuna calls an X7. I don't know if Tuna is still campaigning it. It appeared to be very well made -- Tuna is a craftsman.

To be certain there is no confusion, regardless of what he calls it, Tuna's car is not an X Factory X - 7. We are now testing what we think is a very close to production prototype of the X Factory X - 7.

I'm not racing it anymore. It had a short but intence life :)
Thanks for the warm words Chazz! I was really pleased with the build, and how it looked. But i never got a working setup, chassis to stiff, and mid engine combination makes it a difficult car i guess.
I heard it was a exact copy of it at the Worlds :thumbsup:

And for the name, i had no idea your 4wd would be called X-7 :blush:

SpeedyDad 01-08-2011 03:21 AM

No real mystery here. The top pic is simply Alex's proto SCX-60CF. That was taken at the Cactus Classic. You can tell by how long it is. It is definitely not an X-6.

If anyone over here wants to see it, it will be at the US ROAR Nats in a couple weeks. Stop by and we'll show you all you want to see.

SpeedyDad 11-11-2011 04:33 AM

For those on Facebook, check out the X Factory page. The first pic of most of the first production SCX-60CF is posted.

jmke 11-11-2011 11:45 AM

looking indeed (SEXY)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...79225098_n.jpg

Darren Boyle 11-11-2011 01:08 PM

Good work guys, looks even nicer in the flesh than the CAD images portrayed.....

Cannot wait for for the SCX60-CF to arrive now!

YoungChazz 14-11-2011 12:27 AM

New photos of Paul's of Paul's completed SCX - 60CF now on our FaceBopok page. Like us to see the next ones first!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/X-Fact...87542711292903

It went together very well, and we will order the aluminum parts on Monday AM. Production of the CF parts, which we will do in house, also starts this week. We are still trying to get this thing into the hobby stores in early December. It will be up on our store in a few days.

First race day will be Tuesday at DirtBurners'.

bzb 17-11-2011 06:00 PM

will there be some gear protection? sc body's dont really cover anyting :)

YoungChazz 17-11-2011 08:05 PM

Nothing different in that regard is in the works now. The SCX - 60 has been running for over a year now with no significant problem of spur wear. Also no such problem in the X - 60, which has a body almost as open as a SC.

In all our mid-motor experience (We've had more years in mid-motor than all other current manufacturers combined, with thousands of cars and trucks sold world-wide.) we've never seen anything beside one or two very odd incidents of premature spur gear failure. No Team driver runs any sort of cover.

After 5 years of making mid-motor cars, we would have a gear cover if there was any real need for one. It's just not necessary.

usafaircrew 18-11-2011 04:57 PM

I had a friend make me an overtray out of two x-6 bodies. Works great. He basically cut two bodies in half and reglued them. Doesn't look the best but gets the job done.:thumbsup:

YoungChazz 22-11-2011 02:42 PM

Thought I'd repeat this here, from RCTech:

"Two new pix from K.C. up now on FB. http://www.facebook.com/pages/X-Fact...87542711292903

We will begin work today on the last parts for the pre-order Kits, and hope to ship them Wednesday before Thanksgiving, Saturday for certain. It's not that we must make parts we have not made before, just that we need more of some of them. So we know what to do, it's a matter of cranking them out.

The real job will be putting all the parts into a few bags for you guys so there is some chance you'll know what goes with what. That will be my job on Wednesday, and it will mark the beginning of setting the bagging sequence and beginning the final B.O.M."

YoungChazz 01-12-2011 02:15 AM

Big interview with Paul and myself now on LiveRC.com. Many pix of the new SCX - 60CF, and we talk about the new short course truck.

http://www.liverc.com/news/special_f...ith_X_Factory/

YoungChazz 13-12-2011 04:01 PM

Two of the new SCX - 60CFs contested the J Concepts Clash last weekend in Florida. Newest Team driver Mike Aliberti was there with his brand new SC truck and Team driver Kevin Lesac drove Paul's SCX - 60Cf with his own "Simple Green" body on it. Both drivers were wheeling their SCX - 60CF trucks for the very first time ever. Because of the rainy conditions, both drivers had just one practice session, then 2 qualifiers and the main on Sunday. Both made the A!!!


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