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Metla 22-11-2007 12:10 AM

Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 SP
 
Anything to get excited over?

Scouser 22-11-2007 02:05 AM

Well hex head screws are enough to get excited over on their own!! Other than that it seems as though they have added the LAW34 conversion in with the kit and there is a new bodyshell.
I suppose there isn't a great deal to go mad over, I actually prefer the stock bodyshell but it is a great car none the less.;)

Supergreg 22-11-2007 06:44 AM

I also prefer the "classic" shell over the new one.

jimmy 22-11-2007 08:20 AM

The new front suspension looks pretty neat

RLGfx 22-11-2007 09:05 AM

looks to me like a better all-round package. New steering assembly (knuckles etc), new rear suspension, and the new shocks (same as RB5). Looks pretty good to me! :cool:

sosidge 22-11-2007 11:05 AM

Just remember people, there are some older SP kits out there that were put together by Kyosho Europe with the LAW34 added in with an original ZX-5.

The new SP is a new kit out of Kyosho Japan, you can tell straight away that it is different because it will have the new body.

Wouldn't like anyone to buy an old euro-SP by mistake!

Don't know whether Kyosho Europe have brought any of the new jap-SP in though?

RLGfx 22-11-2007 11:30 AM

apparently the latest ZX-5 SP will be available in the next few weeks, just in time for christmas! :D

Metla 22-11-2007 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosidge (Post 72254)
Just remember people, there are some older SP kits out there that were put together by Kyosho Europe with the LAW34 added in with an original ZX-5.

The new SP is a new kit out of Kyosho Japan, you can tell straight away that it is different because it will have the new body.

Wouldn't like anyone to buy an old euro-SP by mistake!

Don't know whether Kyosho Europe have brought any of the new jap-SP in though?

A-Main are currently selling athe ZX-5 with a SP conversion kit, Including the new body.

Looks like an alright package to me.

Mr X 23-11-2007 01:06 AM

so is the kit on amain the one with the new style knukles and the different suspension?

beast95451 23-11-2007 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr X (Post 72431)
so is the kit on amain the one with the new style knukles and the different suspension?

What are these new style knuckles you speak of?:confused:

Metla 23-11-2007 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr X (Post 72431)
so is the kit on amain the one with the new style knukles and the different suspension?

They don't list the specifics of the conversion kit, But did tell me it takes it to the same specs as the SP kit.

jimmy 23-11-2007 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beast95451 (Post 72432)
What are these new style knuckles you speak of?:confused:


http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/world...day4/zx503.jpg

Those are metal prototypes from the world champs - the final ones are plastic.

KyoshoK 23-11-2007 08:42 AM

WHY are those knuckles better? i never had a problem with the TC style knuckles

jimmy 23-11-2007 09:26 AM

No idea - they're new?
The hubs pivot outside the wishbone now - before they were well inside the outer hinge pin - perhaps that makes a difference.
Perhaps this design is more tunable (well that's for certain) or just stronger - but either way it's used on most 4wd cars and every world champion winning 4wd car for many years.

beast95451 24-11-2007 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyoshoK (Post 72440)
i never had a problem with the TC style knuckles

What are these TC knuckles you speak of?? Are they stronger than stock? I love my ZX-5 & I think it is very durable, but I tend to break front hubs & knuckles on semi-regular basis....are there upgraded ones that I don't know about? Jimmy, are the plastic versions of the ones you posted available? link? part#?

jimmy 24-11-2007 01:17 AM

The wishbones are different also - so I'm not sure what else might be different. The cars in Japan were running rear arms on the front - not sure about the final version. I would assume a kit with all the bits you need will be released but Kyosho isn't the best company in the world for providing information - I think they just have so many products.

beast95451 24-11-2007 06:23 AM

Can you use Associated TC-5 castor blocks & knuckles on the ZX-5? Are they stronger than stock?

JCJC 24-11-2007 09:05 AM

Why is this info filtering onto here like this, I would expect to see JonBoy at least post complete details, with part numbers and availability.

Its almost as if Kyosho release these things, but there is a secret trail you have to follow to get the correct information. Surely if you have a good product and are proud of it you want to sell it and see people happy with it.

Come on JonBoy and Kyosho, proper part numbers and all the rest of it. oOple must be the best place in the world to make your product look good, lets see more from the horses mouth !!!

kek23k 24-11-2007 10:21 AM

LAW35 is the number for the SP conversion kit. See here:

http://translate.google.com/translat...26as_qdr%3Dall

JCJC 24-11-2007 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kek23k (Post 72685)
LAW35 is the number for the SP conversion kit. See here:

http://translate.google.com/translat...26as_qdr%3Dall

No - not working for me - blank page? but thanks, LAW35, will look out for it.

kek23k 24-11-2007 11:18 AM

The Kyosho page is timing out for some reason, it was working last night :(

beast95451 24-11-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beast95451 (Post 72669)
Can you use Associated TC-5 castor blocks & knuckles on the ZX-5? Are they stronger than stock?

Anyone???

Metla 24-11-2007 07:21 PM

That info on the translated page (link does work)

Your laser ZX-5 SP specification can be converted KONBAJONSETTO.
このセットを導入することで、2007 EPオフロード世界選手権に出場したマシンの足回りを再現する事が可能。
This set by introducing the 2007 EP offload world tournament in the leg by machine to reproduce it.
新設計のフロントサスは大きな舵角と幅広い調整対応力を実現。
The new design is a big FURONTOSASU rudder and the corresponding ability to achieve a wide range of adjustment.
同じく新設計のリヤサスは、加重変化によるトラクション活用が行いやすく、自在の操縦性を様々な路面状況で 発揮します。
Another new design RIYASASU, aggravated by the change in use of traction and easy, flexible maneuverability to manifest in a variety of road surface conditions.
<コンバージョンセットの内容>
<KONBAJONSETTO contents>
■フロントハブキャリア(R)(10°)
■ FURONTOHABUKYARIA (R) (10 °)
■フロントハブキャリア(R)(7°)
■ FURONTOHABUKYARIA (R) (7 °)
■フロントハブキャリア(L)(10°)
■ FURONTOHABUKYARIA (L) (10 °)
■フロントハブキャリア(L)(7°)
■ FURONTOHABUKYARIA (L) (7 °)
■ダンパープラパーツセット 
■ DANPAPURAPATSUSETTO
■ショックキャップ<br> ■新型フロントホイール<br> ■フロントナックル(R)(L)
■ shock cap <br> ■ new front wheel <br> ■ front knuckles (R) (L)
■キングピンスリーブ<br> ■フロントサスアーム<br> ■リヤサスアーム<br> ■ユニバーサルスイングシャフト(73)
■ ■ FURONTOSASUAMU KINGUPINSURIBU <br> <br> ■ ■ YUNIBASARUSUINGUSHAFUTO RIYASASUAMU <br> (73)
■ユニバーサルスイングシャフト(60.5)
■ YUNIBASARUSUINGUSHAFUTO (60.5)
■取扱説明書
■ instruction manual
パーツ単品でそろえるよりも約\2,400お得!
Parts single item in uniform than about \ 2400 best!



Clear as mud now?

Muhahahahaha.

I see the word knuckles in there.

kek23k 24-11-2007 08:42 PM

I can roughly see that it will include new front universal drive shafts, new wishbones, new hubs, new kingpins and shock caps. So it looks like it includes everything from LAW34 as well. Price looked good at about £30, so probably about £50-£60 when it gets over here :)

beast95451 27-11-2007 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyoshoK (Post 72440)
WHY are those knuckles better? i never had a problem with the TC style knuckles

What are the TC style knuckles? part#? link?

jimmy 27-11-2007 06:13 PM

By TC knuckles I think he might be talking about the original ZX5 knuckles - sometimes called 'C Hub' in the realms of touring cars.

kek23k 28-11-2007 01:33 AM

Just spotted a pic of the conversion kit on amainhobbies, ou can see it HERE

Can't see too much, but it looks like it's got wheels and shocks in there.

Scouser 28-11-2007 01:53 PM

Looks like the a-arms, cvds and hubs are in there aswell. I will wait 'til after Christmas to do this though I think, I should be needing spares by then anyway:rolleyes:.

JCJC 28-11-2007 03:22 PM

anyone spot a price ?. looks a must ave'

kek23k 28-11-2007 03:38 PM

No proper prices yet, Amain are currently selling stock zx-5's with the conversion kit and the new bodyshell as a deal. But they haven't listed the conversion on it's own yet. I'm going to email them for a price today.

JonBoy 03-12-2007 08:29 PM

KYOSHO LAZER ZX5SP - 30077SP "Limited Edition"
 
Hi all,

Been a long time but i'm back on board.... Anyway..........

The Lazer ZX5SP is in stock at Kyosho UK under the sku - 30077SP. It should have a RRP of £190.00 approx.

No confusion can be made with our old offer under sku - 30074SP which is actually discontinued since a longue time and can't be found in any shop around.

Also all kits coming from Kyosho UK will be special because you won't buy only a normal kit as usual but you will get more parts in it....Our Lazer ZX5SP will be a normal Lazer ZX5-30074 + ZX5 SP conversion set (LAW35) + ZX5SP Bodyshell & Wing (LAB03 "Bulcan" & LA251).......An all in one package.....for your winter season.

If you need more info just ask.........

Deception 03-12-2007 10:25 PM

is this same type of kit that Amain Hobbies is selling? the regular kit then the sp conv and the body / wing? http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5026

thanks

and also does the kit from a-main include Hex Type screws or is it still phillips

JCJC 03-12-2007 10:57 PM

Welcome back JonBoy, have you been away ? lets hope you will be busy on these pages, when can we expect the Law35 kit and how much is it going to cost me?

Mick

Hobie 05-12-2007 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonBoy (Post 74576)
Hi all,

Been a long time but i'm back on board.... Anyway..........

The Lazer ZX5SP is in stock at Kyosho UK under the sku - 30077SP. It should have a RRP of £190.00 approx.

No confusion can be made with our old offer under sku - 30074SP which is actually discontinued since a longue time and can't be found in any shop around.

Also all kits coming from Kyosho UK will be special because you won't buy only a normal kit as usual but you will get more parts in it....Our Lazer ZX5SP will be a normal Lazer ZX5-30074 + ZX5 SP conversion set (LAW35) + ZX5SP Bodyshell & Wing (LAB03 "Bulcan" & LA251).......An all in one package.....for your winter season.

If you need more info just ask.........

Hello Jonboy,

Is the kit LAW34 included in the LAW35 ?

bjcaldwe 05-12-2007 04:51 PM

In the pic on the Amain site, the package shows what appears to be front rims. Are the rims on the Sp and the conversion a different offset to accomodate the change in front end parts?

RogerM 05-12-2007 05:50 PM

They do look like they maybe diffrent .... almost the same as the Losi style wheel used on other 4wds ..... now I wounder what size hex they might use ..... mmmm

I might well have to get one of the SP kits the day of release to find out ;)

JCJC 05-12-2007 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonBoy (Post 74576)
Also all kits coming from Kyosho UK will be special because you won't buy only a normal kit as usual but you will get more parts in it....Our Lazer ZX5SP will be a normal Lazer ZX5-30074 + ZX5 SP conversion set (LAW35) + ZX5SP Bodyshell & Wing (LAB03 "Bulcan" & LA251).......An all in one package.....for your winter season.

If you need more info just ask.........

I already have a Lazer, JonBoy, I just need details of the Law 35 kit, you know ..... when in the shops? whats in the bag? that sort of thing, a few photos.....you got a camera JonBoy? where you based,

Thanks for your time

bjcaldwe 05-12-2007 06:54 PM

Im thinking if you change the hex as you can on other cars you can maybe use the hb, tamiya, losi, b44 type of front rims.

JonBoy 05-12-2007 06:56 PM

Hi guys,

So where should i start? lololol......a lot to answer....:D

Anyway, we have tested the LAZER ZX5 SP as a full kit and we give to a few Team drivers some conversion kit to have both input and output....Last weekend during the PETIT RC RACE, all drivers builted their conversion kit on the saturday nigth and no surprise...Hmmm as part we had to rebuilt all shock with new shock shaft (Twin Cap one's) and the new shock caps.:cool:

-From Deception:is this same type of kit that Amain Hobbies is selling? the regular kit then the sp conv and the body / wing? http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5026
thanks and also does the kit from a-main include Hex Type screws or is it still phillips

* Yes it will be the same package, Kyosho America and Kyosho UK will offer the same deal to retailers. All kits have phillips atm.

-From bjcaldwe: In the pic on the Amain site, the package shows what appears to be front rims. Are the rims on the Sp and the conversion a different offset to accomodate the change in front end parts?

* Yes they are Front rims. They are stronger (like Proline and Losi) and they got the same offset as the previous one. All our team drivers used at the race W5126 & W5126W without any problem.

-From Hobie:Hello Jonboy, Is the kit LAW34 included in the LAW35 ?

*In a way, yes LAW35 contain LAW34 as part the Twin Cap shock parts. Therefore it will be good to get the new upcoming Triple Cap shock W5194V and W5195V (They are the one that all Kyosho drivers had at the WC in Japan). The new shocks are made for the Lazer ZX5SP and RB5, new lenght ,new style, better handling.....

-From RogerM:now I wounder what size hex they might use ..... mmmm

*Same as usual. Some drivers will test soon some Tamiya as we did not have enought time to do so last weekend....Also in the new testing range of thing, we will try Losi/Proline rims....as you can see on the "upcoming" Lazer prototype.

-From JCJC:I already have a Lazer, JonBoy, I just need details of the Law 35 kit, you know ..... when in the shops? whats in the bag? that sort of thing, a few photos.....you got a camera JonBoy? where you based,Thanks for your time

*LAW35 is a combo set that offer you the opportunity to get the new rear end (LAW34 - W/O the shock parts) and the new SP front end. The bodyshell and the new wing are not part of the conversion kit. So you will get FR and RR arms (LA255/LA243), new FR & RR HUB, new FR & RR universal drive shaft (73MM/60.5MM), new knuckle and all small parts like collar, nuts......RRP at £69.00 approx. (**Please note, all RRP given are for your personal information. It's not an official RRP by Kyosho).

Thanks

bjcaldwe 05-12-2007 07:08 PM

Thanks for the info jonboy.


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