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gixxer 18-02-2011 06:55 AM

A couple more 'Dave' parts
 
ive been busy again making some more bits first up is some s130 stainless king pins with a m3 thread on, was asked to make em up and will be tested soon, next up is some ally diff drive thingys i knocked a few of these up and made 2 titianium ones too for that extra bit of bling hope you guys like :)

http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/z...88/kids259.jpg

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stegger 18-02-2011 08:37 AM

Those hub carriers are nice :drool:

westie 18-02-2011 12:23 PM

Nice job!

gixxer 18-02-2011 06:08 PM

thank you, once the hub carriers are tested they will also be for sale at a bargain price :) not sure how much yet, whats the input from you guys?? they are only worth what people are willing to pay for them!! but no p1ss takes want to know if they are worth making

cheers john

bald eagle 18-02-2011 06:34 PM

Hub carriers do indeed look great, a lovely job. Can you tell us what is the weight difference between the machined part and the stock part? As we all know, rotating mass has an influence on speed and indeed handling. :confused:

stevo16v 18-02-2011 07:27 PM

could you machine more slots in so they take different types of wheels ,they look ace ,il be after one off u

stevemardave 18-02-2011 09:17 PM

i love to try the king pins what a good idea be able to adjust spring tension which i could help front end from lifting.:thumbsup: will the m3 nut hit the wheel ?

stegger 18-02-2011 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo16v (Post 465471)
could you machine more slots in so they take different types of wheels ,they look ace ,il be after one off u

Yeh +1 on this because there's loads of wheels that people could use after moving from the older drive shaft to the diff ;)
The other good thing would be on the other side of the drive shaft if you could make the locking piece for the opposite wheel ;)

gixxer 18-02-2011 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo16v (Post 465471)
could you machine more slots in so they take different types of wheels ,they look ace ,il be after one off u


yes i can put as many slots in as you like (within reason) :)

bald eagle- the weight difference isnt that much, ill have to find some scales to weigh them but the ally ones are obv heavier, could machine more off them to save more weight no problem!! these are almost an exact copy of the plastic part, i made them because a few at the local club had the plastic ones melt

thanks for your feed back it all helps for making what people want

cheers john

gixxer 18-02-2011 09:25 PM

i will get the part for the other wheel and make that so different wheels can be used :)

gixxer 18-02-2011 09:28 PM

does anyone have an old dave i can buy?? i dont have one and it makes testing for fit etc a long process a real old beaten up one will be perfect
lob me a pm

cheers john

4_cell_racer 21-02-2011 04:43 PM

I might also be interested in the hub depends on the following:

How much it weighs compared to the std hub
Weather it'll accept the new dish wheels that I have and the 4 spoke wheels as well
And price of the item :blush:

gixxer 21-02-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4_cell_racer (Post 466615)
I might also be interested in the hub depends on the following:

How much it weighs compared to the std hub
Weather it'll accept the new dish wheels that I have and the 4 spoke wheels as well
And price of the item :blush:

i havent weighed them yet so cant answer that will post as soon as i can,
if your wheels fit the standard part they will fit this as its almost an exact copy of the original part!!
im not making them for free and price will reflect the work thats gone into them

cheers john

gixxer 21-02-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardaveuk (Post 466630)
John Nice to see these parts
maybe is time you called me to discuss my Interlectual property rights to these items
Chris
Mardave UK
01953 861134

i have infringed nothing and have tried to contact you

gixxer 21-02-2011 09:05 PM

Hub carriers
 
im confident they will fit properly and have worked out a price of £10 posted for the hub carrier, will be tested tomorrow evening so ill update then, cheers for now

Mardaveuk 22-02-2011 08:41 AM

You have had a PM so i will hand this one over, you will be contacted very soon.
Sorry you feel no infringement has been made
Chris

Gazza 26-02-2011 01:30 AM

Just a quicky

2011 MARDAVE CONSTRUCTION RULES
CHASSIS AND COMPONENTS
STANDARD BRUSHED G2 / STOCK BRUSHLESS 13.5
Cars to be Mardave V12 or Caterham 7 based chassis and suspension. The car chassis plate may be drilled / cut-out to improve weight distribution / cooling, providing no sharp edges are left. No composite chassis allowed
Ball races allowed on both front and rear axles.
Either 32 or 48 dp pinion and spur gear may be used.
Mardave Differentials will be allowed.
Car suspension and wheel carriers shall remain as kit. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

mcjjordan 27-02-2011 08:28 PM

ok so what about improving the rear pin...
as they always get stuck so you cannot remove them without destroying them as the screw always rounds off etc etc

how about one with a hex key hole in the top so you can actually hold it still without damaging it and actually tighten it enough so it doesnt come undone and then wouldnt need to use any locktite
also maybe make the base where it meets the chassis flare out a little so larger diameter then it would have more chance of sitting square or not being pulled into the thin alloy where the screws been countersunk.

ch!3f 27-02-2011 10:10 PM

i used grease on the screw did it up tight and was easily removed when needed

Mardaveuk 28-02-2011 04:52 PM

We have a new pin design and will roll out next month part number V9D
Chris

mcjjordan 28-02-2011 05:32 PM

exellent cant wait
cheers chris

bald eagle 01-03-2011 02:09 PM

Just received one if these diff drive cups from this chap, if it fits/works even half as well as it looks, I'll be a rather happy chap. Quality bit of kit! Mmmm shiny! :thumbsup:

truggy lover 01-03-2011 04:38 PM

nice one chris glad to see a company keeping the development going

The mardave TC looked going round the other sunday as well

cheers Neil

Mardaveuk 01-03-2011 05:16 PM

If anyone has Gixxer's address or tele number pm me please
Chris

ianhaye 01-03-2011 05:31 PM

but there only couple custom made parts, fair enough if they where being massed produced by a big company or they was exact copys being made to undercut you your prices chris ????, no diff to the guys on ebay selling the rear pods. other comapnys make custom parts for other cars dont they, just my 2 pence

stegger 01-03-2011 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardaveuk (Post 470053)
If anyone has Gixxer's address or tele number pm me please
Chris

I know you have a beef with him over him making parts but that's abit of a cheap way !!! isn't it

Andrew.m1971 01-03-2011 07:16 PM

Maybe Chris wouldnt have been so anoyed if he was asked first dont you think.
Maybe there could have been a deal done so Chris could have sold them and they would both been happy then as more could be sold on the Mardave brand name.

PaulL 01-03-2011 07:30 PM

So long as they're not "exact" copies and just compatible parts then there is no case to answer. Plenty other companies out there make compatible parts for rc cars without issue.

stegger 01-03-2011 07:30 PM

No, there's been plenty of people selling one thing or the other on this forum and other forum's to make things to either add better performance or reliability. Why should chris from mardave take royalties from these parts just because somebody else has had an idea to make them. Fair play to GIXXER i say.

stegger 01-03-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulL (Post 470105)
So long as they're not "exact" copies and just compatible parts then there is no case to answer. Plenty other companies out there make compatible parts for rc cars without issue.

They are not, he would have a case to answer if chris had made alloy version's but he hasn't, and that is probably why he 's acting the way he is !!;) At the end of the day these parts would not be allowed at a sanctioned event so you would have to still buy chris's plastic parts.

PaulL 01-03-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stegger (Post 470111)
They are not, he would have a case to answer if chris had made alloy version's but he hasn't, and that is probably why he 's acting the way he is !!;) At the end of the day these parts would not be allowed at a sanctioned event so you would have to still buy chris's plastic parts.

Exactly :) Not a copy.

I've made my own wishbones out of 6mm carbonfibre, just for fun. The holes are the same to fit the chassis, but they're a slightly different shape (better :p) so not copies.

truggy lover 01-03-2011 08:42 PM

ok guys so you all think your right but just look at it from mardaves point of view where does it stop when every one else is making and selling all his spares and all his buisness is gone

i dont think so !!!

Kecky 01-03-2011 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardaveuk (Post 470053)
If anyone has Gixxer's address or tele number pm me please
Chris

Are you going to go around and race him for 'pinks' :lol:

Gazza 02-03-2011 12:04 AM

Been down this road once many years ago and its Called

"Copyright"

The English law is quite funny at times But when the police come banging on your door with a warrant and

TAKE EVERY THING Connected to what ever makes them :mad:

So if there made at your place of work you better tell ya boss or sort it out with Chris A.S.A.P before you Loose every thing I kid you not been there done that never again

its not funny I can tell you

stevo16v 02-03-2011 12:32 AM

nice parts,but were does it stop ! there use to be a thing at club level were everybody would use the same stuff ,it took 10 years for countersunk chassis to be allowed. everyone is doing there own thing .it isnt a £50 pound car any more to be competitive,drivers crave more speed faster parts ,if u want bling buy a saloon car you can throw as much money at them as u like,i race against bald eagle ,if he wins does it mean i have to buy an alloy diff ? lets get back to basics cheap fast racing ,there lovely parts but if u ask me there cheating ,and yes i do make the nylon battery holders but these are to keep people racing and not to gain an unfair advantage,chris has got a living to make ,you carnt blame him

Gazza 02-03-2011 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo16v (Post 470246)
yes i do make the nylon battery holders

But thats your design :thumbsup: . . . . . ( and a good one I would say )

So there for not a copy. . . There not the same as cobra battery holders or the Lexan / ABS ones so there for not a problem :thumbsup:

A copy is a copy is a copy . . . cutting another slot in it or making it out of. .

ally / steel / wood / nylon / brass / 2mm shorter / longer BUT it does the same thing. . . IS A COPY

Same as the A arms. . . drilling the king pin at an angle does not make it differant So there for again its A COPY

LOL tell you what tape Top Gear off the TV and go sell it at a boot market and see what happens . . .

It's called copyright theft Like I said been there done that and got thrown a book the size of the yellow pages all on copyright . . .
Long story but you get the drift . . .

Talk to Chris Make him an offer. . . cut a deal. . . its cheaper in the long run

But putting an ally hub and the motor all on the same side means more lead on the other side to balance it out :p

QuackingPlums 02-03-2011 06:37 AM

Hmm. How old is the design for the Mardave arms and are they patented or just registered designs?

bald eagle 02-03-2011 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo16v (Post 470246)
if u want bling buy a saloon car you can throw as much money at them as u like,i race against bald eagle ,if he wins does it mean i have to buy an alloy diff ? lets get back to basics cheap fast racing ,there lovely parts but if u ask me there cheating ,and yes i do make the nylon battery holders but these are to keep people racing and not to gain an unfair advantage,chris has got a living to make ,you carnt blame him

Ive raced saloons @club and national level, trust me, they are and always have been alot more expensive to race/run in comparisson to a mardave, back in the day i used to spend around £30 for a set of tyres to race art a certain meeting and hope to god id chosen the correct compound to suit the temp of the track etc. As to regards of cheating etc, cant see it as cheating myself, especially if the part is available to all.
Ive been searching the net to find the same shell that you were running on sunday, cant find it anywhere?? are you cheating? lol

ch!3f 02-03-2011 08:50 AM

arnt you contradicting yourself?read what you have just said!

if i was gixxer id get in touch with chris and talk about new designs for alloy parts and come to some sort of arrangement with him.

i know hes making copies of his parts and it doenst matter how old the designs are if they have copyright or what ever it is he will be able to prosecute him for it,it doent matter if they are slightly difference in appearance everything else is the same.

stevo16v 02-03-2011 09:07 AM

hpi rs4 shell,the new mardave speed 6 looks like it,shells dont make u 3 laps faster its all in the thumbs cheaty:thumbsup:


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