Predator Xrs !
 

COOL!
Check the price of it also, reet cheap. 169 pounds.
http://ttechracing.com/Resources/x10auctionwraps.jpg

Plus vat on top of that price, but still a very good price.

???

169 pounds probably just for the upgrade of an X10 :bom:

they did it before, but I dunno if it's clever to boast around like that

Not sure what this is yet, Tom Yardy reckons it might be a cut-price version of the X10 without all the bling, so its cheaper and more people can own a predator.

Interesting concept but I shall not make a single comment until I see pics of the car, £169 is great, just depends on what you 'DONT' get for that money.

PLEASE!

Open letter to TTECH:

I owned the predator (orig version) so many years go. It was too low slung and not durable enough for the US track conditions.

The comments I am seeing about today's car is that the car handles excellent yet it is still not really tested and designed with the capability to perform on the more vertical and bumpy US tracks. People say it does not have quite enough droop or it still breaks too easily under the abuse of the US verticals.

I would LOVE to drive a predator again, but until I see one that really works on US tracks, I cannot justify any amount of money on it.

TTECH, if you are out there, keep the US racers in mind. It may not be bad for the balance books too :).

I can't speak for US tracks since Ive never been on one but they don't look rougher than what we have here, but generally have more jumps.

At 169 sterling its tempting - even with my reservations. Just would like to know whats under the blanket.

£169 erm.. plus VAT I beleive... good old TTech with their advertising Spin...

I have been trying to think where they can be saving all that money over a stock kit, so should be interesting to see.

Nah, no VAT for Morlock, hes in the USA ;)

the only ares that i can think of are changing carbon fibre for molded plastic, slightly heavier plastic chassis, rocker material could be a cheaper metal, non ti turnbuckles etc. but it really is a big difference in price, will be interesting to see how one compares and how it holds up, might break less if the materials are a little more flexible but would loose that positive handling.

just my thoughts

just hope they don't do things like, erm, forget to install a slipper in the box...

It will be interesting to see how much I over pay when I got my car! Since i got one of the first ones.

I just pre-ordered the XRS. I think that whatever it looks like, it will be hot! I've wanted to pick up an X10 forever but the price was just outrageous. I'll be the only one in the state of New Jersey with the XRS...I can already see the jealous eyes at the track, LOL.

How much is VAT? Maybe I should buy one from the US and let you buy it back from me :o.

Well, I am selling a used xxx4. The intent was to trim my race collection to my yokomo (need to build) and my xfactory x-5.

I bought the x-5 used, cleaned it up and it so outhandles my xxx4 it is not even funny. Besides this I have a xxx bk2, a few new tamiyas and 2 nitro cars.

By the way, I have been getting the BEST support in the world from Chazz with the x-5.

As you can see, somewhere I went a little nuts. I know some of you have collections that dwarf mine.

But once I had 2 cars and one day I turned around and discovered I now have 9 runners. 2-3 cars are maintainable - - - -not 9!!!!!!

Trying to resist purchasing another car. But geez its hard - epecially since I have always thought the preds are neat.

Any more information on the XRS? (subtly returns subject to proper forum content)

Interesting - but ........... only the 1st 50 kits will be at the 'low' price, then they go to £211.91 :rolleyes:

But - the first 50 do come with the transmission pre-built!

Actually you get the cheaper price until the promotion goes away...which it hasnt. I just pre-ordered yesterday and got the lower price and I was number 118. I just dont get the pre-built tranny. I would rather build everything myself anyway.

Detailed spec of the Xrs is now online, you don't get the items below, but you still get a lot for the money i think. The only parts you would really need are the one way and diff balls from perhaps Acer 1/8 & 2mm.

One way
Ceramic diff and thurst balls
Moulded rather than alloy rocker cranks
Steel not ti-nitride shock shafts
Moulded rather than alloy steering arms

http://ttechracing.com/htmlpages/xrsspecification.html

Hi, thanks for your comments.

This is quite a common misconception.

The Predator looks low because the TOP of the car is very low.

The suspension travel is massive and the ideal amount of ground clearance is always obtainable because it can be adjusted to suit your track conditions, and yet always leaves enough suspension travel to give you ideal droop as well.

The low look is very important because it is the result of a design which gives you a low centre of gravity for stability, and reduced frontal area for lower aerodynamic drag which makes the car faster.

The latest X10 and XRS Predators have class leading durabity and the transmission will now be "Guaranteed" against breakage we are so confident about its strength.

We have spent many hours testing the latest Predators on US style tracks. The car is quicker than ever and more than capable of winning top level events in the US just as it did when it won the NORRCA Nationals and Winternational with Brian Kinwald before.

Larger volume production is enabling us to bring you a much better price too, and this will be reflected in the latest Predator XRS.

Best regards
Richard Weatherley
TTech Racing

The other thing that for me makes the car look lower than it is, is the very long suspension arms. Their angle changes less than the shorter arms on other cars so makes it look like the car doesnt have as much travel.

"Moulded rather than alloy rocker cranks"

This worries me. This was one of the parts that kept breaking on the original Predator I drove in the 90'ies, together with the suspension arms and the extremely noisy transmission (no slipper back in those days). :(

The Pred may have become a reliable car now, but my reliability trauma's are so deep I wouldn't race one anymore even if they threw one at me.

The plastic rockers were used on all the cars before the X10, and I have never had a single problem with them! The rocker crank pivots are now M4 instead of M3 and are much stronger!

G

Hey all,

The XRS is a brilliant idea. Finally the predator can lose the stigma of being a car simply beyond the reach of the club racer as far as both costs and maintenance are concerned. A great car for a great price, what more can you ask? TTech are back, and nobody can argue with their commitment... oh and btw, have you seen just how fit the girl is in the xrs promo pics? :o wow...

Yardy

You can't say things like that and not post the link!!! Where, where, where??? not that I'm keen to see or anything... honest :)

And they now guarantee certain parts of the transmission! :eek: :eek: :D :D

http://ttechracing.com/transmissionguar.html

Is the girl a stock photo or a model they got in or or or ? shhhhh dont tell vicky but i'm getting one in for the next review I think.. :p

The guarentee on the gears is a good move, they are so beefy they don't need it, but since the car has such a bad rep for previous problems its a rather good idea.

Jim if you want some pics of the next review car with a girl i can probably arrange it....!!!!! :-D :-P

*gets a clip round the ear from vicky* That would be ace though, especially if done a bit tongue in cheek like.:D

hehe, well i'll see who might be interesed in doing it for a laff.. as long as you dont mind some rock chicks..

Problem for me now though is Dark Impact or XRS???
I'm leaning more towards the DI as i'm a tamiya fan but still find the Pred appealing despite thinking they are a bit hard work and fragile..

Ive not built the Impact yet, nor have I seen an XRS in the flesh, but I guess the predator would wipe the floor with the tamiya. The Impact looks like a great car I have to say, but its certainly far from race proven or race bred. If you are a Tamiya fan though, its got serious appeal!! I can't wait to build mine, well, actually I can since I just started the BJ4 instead hehe..

well i love the top force and thats served me well really, so i see the DI as an extension of it. I agree the pred is race proven, but i have beaten a few with the tforce.. But there is that nagging bit at the back of my head which says give the pred a go... anyone fancy lettin me have a drive of an x10 :-D

welcome to have a go with mine... erm, once its built that is. give me time! :D
Nah, I dont want to diss the Impact, it looks a really good car, and people seem to like how it drives. It should be good to see it competing.

Rock chick are ace btw :D wether it happens or not, its the best idea ever ! hehe.

The TopForce and DI are two totaly different beasts (from seperate millenium TOO). The DI in kit form is far FAR more than the TopForce can ever be (and yes I did have one). Also with companies now making Carbon Chassis for the DI it will only improve things, once I get one, I shall work on mounting the rear wishbones off the chassis not the box.

XRS, celever concept, how it will work, who knows, got to be worth a punt though.

Well there we go, if i'm beating preds and xxx4's with the TForce then i should be able to beat more with the DI :D

I'm probably just getting confused but looking at the comparison sheet again, it looks like the xrs doesnt come with a slipper as standard... i mentions a carbon shaft with direct connection to front gear box, then below a carbon shaft with slipper as an option for both cars...!!! dunno what you guys think..!?!

I'm sure it has a slipper but not a one way

Just been pricing it up against the DI and on the TTECH shop, the slipper and shaft is an option part...!! so looks like it doesnt come included..

well, remember, the price on the website is EXCLUDING VAT, which I think it is a bit of a dodgy call (could even be called a little con) as you don't know the FULL price till you have either selected to pay via paypal or entered your card details, then they add the VAT on and it comes out as not £175 inc postage but £205.

I have emailed them as they sent me a confirmation order even though I didn't 'confirm' the order and said that by not telling them the price does not include VAT is misleading.

I would be surprised if there is no slipper, as the transmission is guaranteed on the XRS, without a slipper there would be a lot of extra stress on the transmission which could be costly to ttech.

Slipper shaft is an option, you get a 'unidirectional direct drive' which in non ttech speak means, no slipper, spur bolted to prop shaft affair.