kyosho fs2 or bmax4???OR b44.
 

As above says i have not used either but i want to hear back from you guys(&gals)whitch you think is best if there is one.....
I personally think the zx5 is a better looking car.
Looking to buy in the next couple of days(well it is xmas):thumbsup:
In case you have one for sale..
Cheers Leon

havent you literally just built a rango? :lol:

Yes lol but a mate wants to come with me,he used to have a go years ago and wants to start up again.
Bought a xxx4 but then thought if i bought a up to date car parts ect wont be a problem.
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I'd say the FS2 looks the more serious bit of kit, with its nice blue bits and graphite stuff, but its also more delicate than the Bmax. Not just more fragile, also more sensitive to the wrong or right setup.
The Bmax is very much a club racers car - tough and uncomplicated. The Lazer is more a precision tool.

I prefer the Bmax cos I'd just break a Lazer.

Love the honest here:thumbsup:

ive had both and they are both very good i run the fs now and it is truely a excelent piece of kit as for performance i would say go with what the majority race but if your like me dont ive got the only fs at our club swamped by rangos and tamiya none of them realy fast enough.

bad points on cars

b max front shock tower easy fix rc xtream 5mm towers.

gear boxes can feel tight from new they do free Quality control could be better.

FS again shock towers easy fix again three racing, rc xtream ones on the way.

price of parts.

im not going to list good points as they are pretty much comparible.

stu:thumbsup:

looked at the ansmann x4 pro? honestly ignore the name and look at the car

I still smile when I see posts abou the Lazer being fragile, absolutely NOT the case, the current FS is built like a tank ... a VERY light tank but a tank none the less!

The only slightly weak point on them is the front shock tower and then only on soft surfaces where they can dig in, same for any car with a slimline plastic front tower really.
That will be sorted in the next couple of weeks when the Desire RcRacing towers are available to the public, designed to be strong, with a little more adjustment and improve the one very slight chinc in the FS armour which most people won't ever find anyway!!!!

FS is super easy to build, super easy to maintain, mega reliable (doing my diffs tonight for the first time since Petit in January and the same set of gears have been in there since it was an SP!!!), responds beautifully to setup changes but never turns into an undrivable car ... so long as your on the right tires of course.

I would say it is more than possible to run the FS2 with the same setup everywhere much like many did with the XX4 so don't worry about setup sensitivity however if you like to play with setups then the FS responds like no other car I have ever owned.


It is also a true out of the box racer, you don't need anything that isn't included, even the kit springs are usable for a lot of places. Yes some people like to put 60g on the chassis spine (recomend the RudeBits part if you want to do that) but that really is it! Even with the 60g in there I have seen a couple of cars right on the weight limit so it's no fat lump either. My own car is approx 1600g but then I have heavy cells and chuncky ESC on board..

The best 4wd car ever? IMHO quite possibly!

Not fragile as such, but more so than a Bmax. With carbon towers fitted it takes some serious effort to break a Bmax.

The difference is an FS2 won't break in normal use, a Bmax can survive deliberate abuse.

Just had a look not a bad looking car specialy for the price.:thumbsup:
Cheers leon

Cheers for that info.

both are good cars but for me im not into the poor quality of the bmax i dont like how the drive shafts dig their way through the out drives,the slipper dousent work properly and they seam to strip bevel gears very easy.Id definatley only consider a lazer or a b44

hi there

i have never owned either car { which is a suprise as have had most } but if i was gonna go for 1 it would be the koyosho

shim them correctly and there awesome, I found that the BMAXX is really easy to drive fast and is super sable all of the time, very easy to get a good set up on....

i know what your saying mate but i can only go of what ive seen at our local club even an f1 driver at our club went through a few sets of gears and he knows what hes doing.If you bought a kyosho youd come back and say the gulf in quality between the 2 is huge and im realy not just saying that because i run a lazer.

At my local club it's mainly bmax or zx5 and you can tell who has the bmaxs because you only see them on the rostrum no spare time in-between heats as the bmax Owners are always trying to sort out the diffs or the slippers on the buggy

So if you want time to relax and have a chat in-between heats get a lazer or

If your Billy no mates and can't be bothered speaking to no one get a bmax

Buds

Like it:p

Nah, thats just what we claim when you Gayzer owners come over so you'll go away. We know what sort of 'socialising' you lot like doing, and frankly we just don't swing that way!

Kyosho FS or FS2 all the way!! :p:p

Even if you did swing that way I'm sure we couldn't do a deal with you because non of our wifes have the low self esteem required of a woman to have anything to do with you!!

All that aside your bmax is crap like you said it's a bit of a basher and no serious racer should consider one. You can't get any of your bmaxs past and present to complete a meeting with no issues and your a f**king physics teacher !!!!

Buds

Infact I am shocked I'm getting this level of abuse from a socially repulsive baffoon like you
I've only been into the hobby a couple of years and already I far exceed any skills you have,have had or ever will. You have been messing with rc cars since the birth of Christ
I haven't touched my laser for 3 months in the last three months you've attended any meeting that allow entry to such wasserks like yourself.
Then on Sunday I beat you enough said four eyes retire!!!

Buds

Can we stop this stupidity please lads.
Take it some where else.
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I don't think your in a position to label anyone stupid or actions as stupidity your the one on here asking strangers to choose a car for you!!:p

Im not asking them to choose, iam after some info on different cars for a mate of mine to use.

Why not tell your mate to get a Durango then you can share spares if you need to

Well the bmax with the champions pack is excellent for the money...
I run a hopped up B44 which I like, and I find responds well to setup changes, but is a bit limited with adjustments (which I like actually).
The lazer is a nice piece of kit, and the price reflects that..the zx5 fs (not fs2) can be had for a bit less if you know where to look. The downside is it taked a better but less compatible wheel fitting compared to the other cars mentioned (it uses a 12mm hex).

If your running at Leominster though, a B44 may be your best choice, as there are a few around at the club, and we know how to set them up. There will also be some spares available for you.

Hope this helps,
Mark

Cheers mark,out ofall 3 cars ive had and run a b44 before and i think it will be best out of the 3.
Also iam expecting him to break it alot,lol should be parts about as well as the stock i will get.
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Just doing a deal on one now:thumbsup:

If I was buying new, a durango R version would be a possibility.
I would think it would be easier to get a second hand b44, and just check it over and learn the car at the same time, as well as keeping costs down.

It might have some of the small strength improvements already fitted, which can only help.

The only thing that needs checking is the gear mesh, which I can help you with...
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I seem to have my FS going reasonably well around Leominster don't I?

As for the wheels I have run a ZX5 for about 3 years now and this weekend will be the first ever time it has run with Kyosho wheels on both ends of the car!!!! Wheel fitment (Losi fitting I assume you mean) is more than possible, not desirable with the later ZX5FS2 / RB5SP2 rear ends though but with an FS it's simple enough.

As for strength I rarely break anything, if I do it's usually a "car coming the other way" sort of accident and is normally just a front shock tower, worst case a shock shaft. The tower issue will be sorted in a couple of weeks time when we have the Desire RcRacing towers for the car ... break them, I dare you to try :)

Dont' write the ZX5 off just yet and if you want a drive of mine to help decide if you like it (sure you will) just ask ... about time I came back to Hereford now I've found (I think) the cause of my interference there!