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jimmy 10-12-2010 01:38 PM

Robin Hood dirt track - let them know!
 

James Helliwell from the Robin Hood Raceway facility - one of the UK's top all-weather astroturf tracks is looking at the feasability of creating a covered and therefore all-weather DIRT TRACK to sit alongside the current track.

If you'd like to see an awesome dirt track in the UK - then RHR need your input and help. Just show your interest at the following link to register your interest and help get the project approved.



Original post:

If an covered dirt track was constructed at Robin Hood Raceway, Nottinghamshire would you use it?

If so, please will you sign the online petition in the link below.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/r...ewaydirttrack/

It would be very helpful to us if you could so we can show there is a demand to the relevant parties and hopefully we can bring you a great new facility.
Many Thanks.

jo90 10-12-2010 02:50 PM

Years ago I helped to run Harwood Hall Buggy Club in Essex. This club used an Equestrian warmup arena, basically a dirt/clay/horse manure surface (dont laugh, it was actually a really good surface once rolled flat) and rope to mark a track out each week. Best bit, it was covered. All year around racing, no matter the weather (admitidly f^&king freezing of a winter time).

The idea I think would be a great one, definately I feel it wuld bring more racers....whats better than being able to race, even if its pouring with rain ??

Good luck Robin Hood Raceway !

c0sie 10-12-2010 03:19 PM

Good luck James!

RHR is a brilliant venue, and an indoor dirt venue would be such a huge boost for our hobby :)

Chrislong 10-12-2010 03:28 PM

Do the relevant parties realise how having a facility like this, enables children/kids/big-kids to have a real interest and remain healthy, giving them social confidence and a start to learning about mechanical and electrical items whilst being fun and enjoyable - beyond playing games on the Xbox/Playstation which in contrast is unsociable, unproductive and unhealthy - or worse still having no interests and becoming a neighbourhood nuisance and another crime statistic.

RogerM 10-12-2010 03:48 PM

I signed the original one, I take it that is all that is required.

+1 for what Chris said!

Dhami1 10-12-2010 04:23 PM

YES YES YES!!! Most definitely :thumbsup:

budgio 10-12-2010 05:15 PM

Done.
I really hope this takes off,good luck ! :)

markwilliamson2001 10-12-2010 05:53 PM

Be brilliant to have a Dirt Track back on the National Calendar!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Best of luck with the venture.

Just out of interest, what tyres would you use, and would you nominate some sort of control tyre?

Cheers
Mark

paulsmith 10-12-2010 07:14 PM

This would be a great thing for the uk offroad scene!

Chrislong 10-12-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markwilliamson2001 (Post 440938)
Just out of interest, what tyres would you use, and would you nominate some sort of control tyre?

Wow your keen. Itll be an unknown until the clay/dirt is down :)

markwilliamson2001 10-12-2010 08:35 PM

I was more thinking along the lines of a chosen tyre or tyres and supplying them...as we all know, at Tiverton, those step pins became mighty hard to get hold of....

Chrislong 10-12-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markwilliamson2001 (Post 440971)
I was more thinking along the lines of a chosen tyre or tyres and supplying them...as we all know, at Tiverton, those step pins became mighty hard to get hold of....

:confused: what you say makes perfect sense - if anyone knew what tyre would work but that is impossible as the track does not exist yet... Your jumping the gun, before they even have a gun to fire!

Si Coe 10-12-2010 10:24 PM

I think the magic question here is how much?

I say this because certain parties around here looked into building such a facility in Manchester, and the general conclusion was that costs exceeded the likely revenue. Now admittedly this was for a true indoor track in a rented building in town, rather than a shed in a field, but some of the issues remain.
Generally people were keen to race on a dirt track, but not so keen to pay extra to do so.

Jo90 - I raced at Harwood Hall a few times in my youth. Fun surface, fine for my RC10 but I remember we used to have to strip down the gearbox on my brothers Cougar every round as it would fill up with dirt!

racingdwarf 10-12-2010 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo90 (Post 440894)
Years ago I helped to run Harwood Hall Buggy Club in Essex. This club used an Equestrian warmup arena, basically a dirt/clay/horse manure surface (dont laugh, it was actually a really good surface once rolled flat) and rope to mark a track out each week. Best bit, it was covered. All year around racing, no matter the weather (admitidly f^&king freezing of a winter time).

The idea I think would be a great one, definately I feel it wuld bring more racers....whats better than being able to race, even if its pouring with rain ??

Good luck Robin Hood Raceway !

Think i came there once...long long time ago,i can remember the poo:thumbsup:. The floor was quite dry and loose if I am thinking of the right place.

As for this thred, good luck, I would dream of building a good indoor, if you have a farm shed/building you stand a chance, and farm buildings are not that costly to build, normaly the shell is cheep, it's the renforced concreat floor that costs mega money...but hey you won't be needing that:thumbsup:.If it came true I would come that way for sure, but not every month as it's a bit of a drive, but if it yatabi arena(spelling) in the uk I will build my new house next to it:woot:

Good luck

mark christopher 10-12-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 440993)
I think the magic question here is how much?

I say this because certain parties around here looked into building such a facility in Manchester, and the general conclusion was that costs exceeded the likely revenue. Now admittedly this was for a true indoor track in a rented building in town, rather than a shed in a field, but some of the issues remain.
Generally people were keen to race on a dirt track, but not so keen to pay extra to do so.

Jo90 - I raced at Harwood Hall a few times in my youth. Fun surface, fine for my RC10 but I remember we used to have to strip down the gearbox on my brothers Cougar every round as it would fill up with dirt!

knowing james and his enthusiasm for the sport he is not doing it to become a millionaire, i believe the site the existing track is on is also ( or was) used for other things too, i also believe the plan is to have it roofed and not fully enclosed.
James will not have asked the question and looked into planning etc without having somthing sorted in the pipe line ;)

c0sie 10-12-2010 11:29 PM

James is a legend :D

Id chisel his indoor dirt/clay meetings into my calander if he project happened and a venue was built :)

I wish I lived "up North" :( lol

c0sie 10-12-2010 11:30 PM

James is a legend :D

Id chisel his indoor dirt/clay meetings into my calander if he project happened and a venue was built :)

I wish I lived "up North" :( lol

mark christopher 10-12-2010 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 441014)
James is a legend :D

Id chisel his indoor dirt/clay meetings into my calander if he project happened and a venue was built :)

I wish I lived "up North" :( lol

would be too cold up here for you chris!! :p

mikerobinson83 11-12-2010 10:26 AM

this sounds like an amazing idea (just wish a club in the sw would do the same)
will sign the patition if you think it will help but not sure as i live so far away it might look a bit odd.

James 12-12-2010 03:21 PM

Thanks to everyone who has signed the petition so far, it might seem a bit of an odd thing to request, but its something I/we have been working on for months, if not years. I finally applied for planning permission for a building earlier in the year but we've been having problems, specifically with 'showing reasonable demand', that's why im asking for your help in showing there would be a demand, not matter where you live, (infact the further away the better as it indicates stopovers in local hotels etc which is good for the local economy) in the form of a petition and numerous other avenues ive been doing myself.

We have the finance in place, the correct type of clay sourced (which has taken ages!) and most things ready in the backgorund, we just need a green light from what i will call 'relevant parties' - this is a public forum so i dont wan to go into detail.

We've been in discussion with tyre manufacturers for several months and will be having an arrangement with one of them for a single brand and probably single tread tyre - this will benefit them with a guaranteed market, and make things easier and cheaper for tyre choice for everyone choosing to race at the venue.

Racing costs would be inline with existing entry fees at other tracks, around the £10 mark.

Will keep everyone posted.

c0sie 12-12-2010 03:35 PM

James,

Just a thought, but if your project might hold potential to host BRCA events you might want to consider speaking to the BRCA Exec ([email protected]) as they hold alot of "weight" when it comes to your "showing reasonable demand" thingy?

They might even be able to help out with persuading those that need persuading etc?

Just a thought :)

farmboy 12-12-2010 04:38 PM

The indoors track sounds like a brilliant idea!

poopers 12-12-2010 05:05 PM

Good luck James, you and all at RHR are doing an awesome job!

Northy 12-12-2010 08:37 PM

I'm itching to build this bad boy now :D

andys 12-12-2010 08:56 PM

This sounds too good to be true !

Can you give us a few more details ? Is it going to be simply a covered track, or an actual building with the track inside ?

Is it a private venture, or are you getting any funding or similar ?

Good luck though chaps, always was on the cards for me to do if my lotto numbers ever came up !

lotussmart 13-12-2010 02:07 PM

Good luck James and crew, the Ardent Crew are right behind you on this one and will help in anyway we can, you have an awesome facility already and this new venture would put it out of this world!! Good luck!

John.

James 26-01-2011 03:09 PM

Thankyou to everyone who signed our petition, unfortunately we still haven't got planning permission for a building for a dirt track.

I've just employed the services of a consultant to put a case forward for it, unfortunately it will cost several thousand pounds which we would much rather spend on the facility than wasted on red tape. Soo frustrating :bored:

jimmy 26-01-2011 03:16 PM

How come so much? Maybe it's worth putting up a donation page of some sort to help out?
Anything I can do to help just let me know

Richard Lowe 26-01-2011 03:25 PM

:cry:

James 26-01-2011 03:25 PM

Its £2500 just for the fee to the council to re-submit the planning application and around £1000 for the consultancy fees.
I don't think it would be right to ask for donations for something that might not come off.
What would be more useful if it does come off is peoples skills - ie ive got a huge industrial heater that will run on waste oil, so we could heat the building for free but need a plumber to install it all :D

Northy 26-01-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smOkin (Post 456573)
Its £2500 just for the fee to the council to re-submit the planning application and around £1000 for the consultancy fees.
I don't think it would be right to ask for donations for something that might not come off.
What would be more useful if it does come off is peoples skills - ie ive got a huge industrial heater that will run on waste oil, so we could heat the building for free but need a plumber to install it all :D

Man power is always welcome :D:D:D we had a great group build the astro RHR track, but it was always the same few every work day..... Don't want too many "bosses" though :lol::lol: I hate design by committee :)

G

wacattack 26-01-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smOkin (Post 456573)
Its £2500 just for the fee to the council to re-submit the planning application and around £1000 for the consultancy fees.
I don't think it would be right to ask for donations for something that might not come off.
What would be more useful if it does come off is peoples skills - ie ive got a huge industrial heater that will run on waste oil, so we could heat the building for free but need a plumber to install it all :D

Sill think it's worth setting up, even if it isn't successful

mark christopher 26-01-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wacattack (Post 456755)
Sill think it's worth setting up, even if it isn't successful

carnt see it not being a success nothing like it in the uk

wacattack 26-01-2011 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 456771)
carnt see it not being a success nothing like it in the uk


I meant setting up a donations site

mark christopher 26-01-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wacattack (Post 456778)
I meant setting up a donations site

ah get you now, read it wrong way! :blush:

ashleyb4 26-01-2011 10:27 PM

If it comes off james ide be up for a work weekend aslong as i can camp in my tent...

Ash

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson 26-01-2011 11:34 PM

Im a qualified builder, will help anyway i can and as much as needed :thumbsup:

Have mini digger and dumper licence too :)

Northy 27-01-2011 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 456786)
If it comes off james ide be up for a work weekend aslong as i can camp in my tent...

Ash

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson (Post 456817)
Im a qualified builder, will help anyway i can and as much as needed :thumbsup:

Have mini digger and dumper licence too :)

:wub:wub


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