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ttboyy2k 08-10-2007 05:46 PM

2wd buggy future predictions anyone?
 
Do you think we will see mid-engined 2wd buggies like the x-6 and S-2 buggies being designed for future releases from associated, losi/horizon, and kyosho?

bigred5765 08-10-2007 06:05 PM

who says there not already,
oops did i say that out loud
i heard jimmy had some b5 shots some were but it sworn to secrecy OMG i did it again,

VintageRacer 08-10-2007 06:16 PM

I was thinking we were due for a B5. The T5 was released recently and the B4 appears to be getting on a bit.

Another reason to hold off re-starting the hobby

Scouser 08-10-2007 06:48 PM

Expecting pictures of the HB 2wd any day now. There is already mention of it on their website.

Gayo 08-10-2007 09:31 PM

AE never takes risks with their designs. I don't see them changing their 2WD anytime soon unless
- they get beat at every major race by alternative designs (X-6, S2...)
- light lipo packs become race-legal and mainstream.

I don't have a clue for Tamiya and HB but they seem to like proven designs rather than innovative stuff.

VintageRacer : T5 :confused: Maybe you were refering to the TC5 (Touring car) ?
:)

Col 08-10-2007 10:18 PM

Didn't the B4 just win the worlds?
They might have a design on the go, but (as previously mentioned) can't see AE releasing a new car when the old one is still so good

bigred5765 08-10-2007 10:23 PM

but its never to late to make a good car better

ashleyb4 08-10-2007 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttboyy2k (Post 64034)
losi/horizon


!!!!!!!!! I never thought ide say this but I sorta have the felling losi dont have a future in 1/10th they dont realy care not enough money in it like 8th.

A

Col 08-10-2007 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 64060)
but its never to late to make a good car better

True...

telboy 08-10-2007 10:40 PM

Quote:

Expecting pictures of the HB 2wd any day now. There is already mention of it on their website.
Any links to this? can't seem to find it.

VintageRacer 09-10-2007 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayo (Post 64052)
VintageRacer : T5 :confused: Maybe you were refering to the TC5 (Touring car) ?
:)

You're right TC5 is what I meant. If I recall the magazine article correctly, AE changed from shaft to belt drive in this car so maybe they are open to changes? Or were they being beaten by belt drive cars?

mark christopher 09-10-2007 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VintageRacer (Post 64076)
You're right TC5 is what I meant. If I recall the magazine article correctly, AE changed from shaft to belt drive in this car so maybe they are open to changes? Or were they being beaten by belt drive cars?

tc shows torque steer more, just after going back to belt in a tc they released a shaft 4x4 buggy!!!

burgie 09-10-2007 08:05 AM

I "think" the team xtreme (formerly T.Tech) 2wd car will be a mid motor design...at least that is what Richard implied during a conversation we had about 4 months ago...

xavi 09-10-2007 09:20 AM

Will serpent design a new 2WD with Gerd? How many new 2WD (protos included) we will see next year?
I like to see too many manufacturers in 2WD A finals as 4WD.

Can we see them next year?

Academy
Asso B5?
RB5 upgrade?
X-6 Upgrade?
S2 production?
HB 2WD
TTech 2WD?
Serpent 2WD?
Aero 2WD? Will they think about it?
Tamiya 2WD? Hummm. They must offer more competition support.
Yokomo 2WD? Now asso has 4WD.

Seems to be a dream, but not imposible. Will lipo break electric market sales?

Northy 09-10-2007 09:29 AM

I think it's far easier to make a fast 4wd, rather than a fast 2wd, just look at the Schumacher blade :rolleyes:

G

DCM 09-10-2007 10:48 AM

I don't think you will see anything from the major player (AE) although I reckon there will be more 'conversions' and some new boys jumping on the wagon.

If AE do anything it will be to refine parts rather than a whole new car, the TC5 was needed as the TC4 was just not up to it. But the B4 is still at the top, so would you really change it unless you had something worthwhile to change it to?

academy is shipping there's this month. I don't think you will see something serious from Tamiya as yet.

Nick Goodall 09-10-2007 11:05 AM

Agree on that - the B4's still flying and winning most events out there, the Losi XXX hasn't "really" changed much since 1999 when it came out - just refinements like geometry changes etc, the basic chassis & layout is the same.

It's hard to see any massive improvement or big change to be honest as these mid motor designs obviously aren't a step forward, just an alternative.

I think the days of major changes are gone, the change from RC10 to RC10 B2 was massive and it won comfortably first time out.

Nowadays it seems to be more about refinement then big revolutionary changes (in 2wd at least)!

Elliott Hopkins 09-10-2007 11:26 AM

Only a huge change in track style will yield a change of car.

Although a narrower B4 chassis could be made. But that's nothing.

Elliott.

rich_cree 09-10-2007 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 64090)
I think it's far easier to make a fast 4wd, rather than a fast 2wd, just look at the Schumacher blade :rolleyes:

G

I reckon its just easier to set up a 4wd than a 2wd.

Northy 09-10-2007 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich_cree (Post 64100)
I reckon its just easier to set up a 4wd than a 2wd.

Mmmm, maybe. :D

RLGfx 09-10-2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich_cree (Post 64100)
I reckon its just easier to set up a 4wd than a 2wd.

depends on the 4wd i reckon... the b4 is a very easy car to get a basic setup, but getting the best out of any car takes knowledge, experience and practice.

mark christopher 09-10-2007 12:21 PM

Serpent will make a 2wd car, as and when i carnt say yet

jimmy 09-10-2007 01:16 PM

The B4 needs to be replaced at some point, if only to reinvigorate the sales. If someone makes a car as good and supports it equally as well - then the B4 will lose out big time, since everyone wants the newest stuff.

That said, I think a B4 evolution, or B4.5 is more likely than a whole new car.

bigred5765 09-10-2007 01:21 PM

i heard it was a b4x

jimmy 09-10-2007 01:27 PM

Could be right there Carl! :)

bigred5765 09-10-2007 03:25 PM

i seen something at someones house that i shouldnt have, but im sworn to secrecy, on pain of death,

millzy 09-10-2007 03:28 PM

ive seen some one naked i shouldnt have.....dose that count to any thing?

i think the b4 will be replaced soon, a few things now need up dating i think

antnee 09-10-2007 03:31 PM

will we get a losi xxxx?

jimmy 09-10-2007 03:34 PM

I'm not sure losi give enough of a XXXX to make a XXXX :p:p:p:p

millzy 09-10-2007 03:42 PM

xxxx is a beer so they cant call it that

the losi xxxx. good for putting on bbQ

antnee 09-10-2007 04:44 PM

i think xray should come into 10th offroad, just because you can drive a T2 into a wall and not break it!

antnee 09-10-2007 04:46 PM

also arent schuey supposed to be coming back?

AndyM 09-10-2007 04:59 PM

some1 told me schuey were unvailing their new car at worksop 2 weeks ago?? dno if this was true, or just one of those rumors...im guessing it woz rumours

MikePimlott 09-10-2007 05:10 PM

Quote:

i seen something at someones house that i shouldnt have, but im sworn to secrecy, on pain of death, bigred5765
Quote:

ive seen some one naked i shouldnt have.....dose that count to any thing?millzy
You both should have taken pictures. :D

Northy 09-10-2007 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyM (Post 64170)
some1 told me schuey were unvailing their new car at worksop 2 weeks ago?? dno if this was true, or just one of those rumors...im guessing it woz rumours

Maybe at the next one ;);)

G

mattym0310 09-10-2007 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xavi (Post 64088)
X-6 Upgrade?

there is an x6 upgrade coming at the end of the year, hopefully november ive been told. if you read the x factory threads, there will be a 2peice carbon shock tower and the new gen.2 4gear box available aswell

Northy 09-10-2007 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattym0310 (Post 64184)
there is an x6 upgrade coming at the end of the year, hopefully november ive been told. if you read the x factory threads, there will be a 2peice carbon shock tower and the new gen.2 4gear box available aswell

What about the new chassis? ;)

mattym0310 09-10-2007 06:03 PM

what new chassis? :confused::eh?:

Northy 09-10-2007 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattym0310 (Post 64192)
what new chassis? :confused::eh?:

I've said far too much already..... ;)

mattym0310 09-10-2007 06:52 PM

c'mon northy, spit it out.. we all wonna no :D


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