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AndyG 04-10-2010 08:36 PM

On a mission
 
I'm on a mission. I've (happily - I love painting!!) agreed to do a couple of paint jobs for some pals.

The first one, I need to do for this Sunday :o. Ultimately, we're trying to achieve something like this on a B4.1 shell :

http://racepf.com/images/products/1521-30.jpg

Reasonably fiddly, but confident I can do a decent version, but only with the right materials, paint etc.

I've got an airbrush I've never used before !!!, a decent compressor, some paint in cans (from my mate, which he's used on previous shells), but crucially no liquid mask - which I reckon is essential to achieving a shell like this. Not used that before either !!!

Does anybody know anywhere in West Yorks that sells Createx / Faskolor or something similar OR can deliver uber-fast and has plenty of colours in stock?

I'm trying to figure out if it's realistic to aim to complete a shell like that for the weekend, or should I just do him a bog standard (but neat) job with some standard mask & the spray cans he's passed me, and save the "big one" for another day?

jonmiller 04-10-2010 09:16 PM

give me a shout mate. I have liquid mask and createx paint and chrome, candies etc in the rcs range (not up on the site atm but is in stock and available. can get everything sent out tomorrow for you.
drop me an email [email protected] or give me a shout on msn [email protected] if you want to discuss anything

regards,

jon

blitzboy 04-10-2010 09:19 PM

andy hi mate you should be ok to get what you need from darren at dms buddy hes my supplier and has fascolour in stock and paint mask too mate

if ya want createx ultra fast then www.everythingairbrush.com/ do stock it as for the colours the greens are the hardest so these are the ones that ll match key lime green for the back faslucent green for the edge of the key lime and then flow green for the lighte green but just do a dust coating a few times ,,, obvoiusly black and white and if you want some serious chrome then rcs /// jonny miller does some awesome chrome that stick so well ,, get it done mate good luck and post some piccies up , if you cant get any colours give me a shout cheers dude

blitzboy 04-10-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmiller (Post 420183)
give me a shout mate. I have liquid mask and createx paint and chrome, candies etc in the rcs range (not up on the site atm but is in stock and available. can get everything sent out tomorrow for you.
drop me an email [email protected] or give me a shout on msn [email protected] if you want to discuss anything

regards,

jon

i flipping ronick thats all im goping to say miller :thumbsup:

Jabber 04-10-2010 09:21 PM

:confused: Aye lad that is a tricky one. Might be worth just doing a neat bogo standard one just to get the lad up and running. have heard the guy in question is a bit throttle happy anyway,so save the nice one for when he calms down abit. Dint he wipe a cougar shell out at batley the other week and kept blaming a faulty lipo connection on his erratic driving.:lol::lol:

AndyG 04-10-2010 09:32 PM

thanks for the quick replies everybody !! Uber-helpful forum section this.

Jon (love your site btw - had a right good read of it!!) - any chance you can pm me the colours you reckon I'd need to try and match that shell, with prices, delivery etc ?

I could spray it with a can in a day, but working back from Sunday, I reckon Fri+Sat = curing time... Thurs = painting, Wed = liquid mask.

JUST about do able?? Don't want to rush and fudge.

jonmiller 04-10-2010 09:32 PM

forgot to mention the liquid mask is available in 8oz bottles now also, incase you don't need a large bottle (again, not on the site but is in stock and available - waiting for some work to be done on the site)

jonmiller 04-10-2010 09:36 PM

yep, that sounds about right. plenty of time to get er done.

i can pm you or you can add me to msn and chat about it now if you like. just sat watchin some tele at the mo so not busy.
let me know which you prefer

AndyG 04-10-2010 09:44 PM

just added you on msn jon!

AndyG 04-10-2010 09:46 PM

will also need colour matches against this....

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3825275_n.jpg

my old ZX5 <3

Keeping the same colours.... just going for a slightly more adventurous design & a better chrome!

blitzboy 04-10-2010 09:51 PM

andy those colours are fast pearl blue or faslucent blue thin coat and fast pearl behind it faslucent orange not fast orange its not dark enough but you ll be needing to do a couple of layers of the faslucent orange to darken it up then just chrome or silver and bang in the white ,,,,,,,,,,,, any more mate i know my colours buddy

jonmiller 04-10-2010 09:51 PM

ok mate

but umm....it should be [email protected]

:blush:

:thumbsup:

AndyG 06-10-2010 12:17 PM

Jon - got the paint through this morning.

MANY THANKS for such a speedy service.

jonmiller 06-10-2010 12:26 PM

My pleasure mate, glad you received themok.
Chucked in a couple samples of the rcs paints and some texture materials to keep you going.

Welcome back anytime!

jiffy 06-10-2010 01:14 PM

Keep us updated Andy, I'm also having a go a painting a new B4 bodyshell, I will put it on here after, depends how it comes out, all looks a bit tricky right now, lol

I've put 3 coats of liquid mask on, nearly ready

Jiffy

AndyG 07-10-2010 04:47 PM

Got 'em all masked up...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5658901_n.jpg

Yep - FOUR shells (GULP). Easy to mask em up in a production line.

Now ready to start spraying tonight!! ... just one shell to start with though !

jonmiller 07-10-2010 05:45 PM

hey buddy, nice1 :) page on the comp looks familiar. :)

good luck mate. take yer time and have fun.

:thumbsup:

AndyG 07-10-2010 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmiller (Post 421037)
hey buddy, nice1 :) page on the comp looks familiar. :)

indeed !! always read the manual !!

AndyG 08-10-2010 06:31 AM

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4484459_n.jpg

all done - "fairly" happy with it given it's my first for 4 year.

Had a real issue with the Candy Green - it seemed to melt into the liquid mask, so when I was peeling it off, it was like I was peeling off a really thin Candy Green coloured mask.

live n learm!

now leaving it to dry fully before giving it a backing with a spray can white, then the window masks can come off ready for use on Sunday.

jonmiller 08-10-2010 01:10 PM

looks like you did a good job andy. pics make it hard to see very well.

as for the green, perhaps you applied it too heavy?

Mike Parker 08-10-2010 02:26 PM

Yeah looking good Andy :) with the candies, best to do them in several light coats & build them up gradually.

Hope you're enjoying doing them fella :thumbsup:

AndyG 09-10-2010 12:07 AM

OK, so I'm fairly satisfied with the results, and certainly, things have been learnt.

Lessons learnt...

The Candy Green - I put it on lightly, and in several coats (even though I wasn't spraying much of it) and it seemed to have a really significant impact on the liquid mask. Where the CG had touched the mask, I found myself peeling off a candy green, ultra thin, mask. This impact alot of areas of the shell and led to me having to re-cut some mask lines.... end result - imperfection, 2 hours extra on the job and cramp in my legs (I stood up for 6 hours doing it) whilst asleep. The CG was (apart from the chrome) the only solvent based paint I used in the scheme, which must have played a part. All said though - it's a lovely looking colour.

Black & White - Came out of my airbrush quicker than 'owt else. - and as a consequence I have some very minor bleeding.

Equipment - I have a £20 airbrush and a nice compressor. No regulator or filter & I suspect I need those things if I wish to spray regularly and well ? Do I need an airbrush that has the ability to spray fine lines?? ... I think so. Advice welcome.

Good stuff...

Chrome - Amazing stuff. So reflective and shiny. Awesome stuff.

Owner - He loves it. That's what really counts.

Liquid Mask - Apart from the issues with the CG described above - I love this stuff. How I masked shells with tape etc I will never know.

Questions...

Trim lines - If I want say a 3mm line around an area in chrome, how do people go about cutting it out? Just by hand? If so - some of the jobs I've seen on here astound me.... or maybe I should drink less?

blitzboy 09-10-2010 07:49 AM

Hi Andy I don't use any filters or regulator and as for lines I always cut by hand the bleeding might be down to the paint mask not peeling right due to it not being thick enough and I always use a fresh blade on every shell too mate

andys 09-10-2010 08:12 AM

Hi Andy.

Looks good fella, get some decent pics of it up !!
Have you done any of the other shells yet.... Post them up if you have :)

I used some candy paint on a shell and it went horribly wrong, was like spraying water, I threw the tin away so I don't make the mistake of using it again, it seemed to melt through the other paint and spoil my liquid mask too, si I know your pain !

Mike Parker 09-10-2010 08:33 AM

Equipment - I have a £20 airbrush and a nice compressor. No regulator or filter & I suspect I need those things if I wish to spray regularly and well ? Do I need an airbrush that has the ability to spray fine lines?? ... I think so. Advice welcome.


Questions...

Trim lines - If I want say a 3mm line around an area in chrome, how do people go about cutting it out? Just by hand? If so - some of the jobs I've seen on here astound me.... or maybe I should drink less?

Hiya Andy,

I would recomend you get a moisture trap, tends to build up & ultimately the water will come out through the gun with the paint.

Trim lines mate - Practice really fella, and a steady hand!!

Mike P.

AndyG 09-10-2010 10:15 AM

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3877955_n.jpg

done

andys 09-10-2010 08:37 PM

Hi Andy.

Looks well that, with a few well chosen stickers it will be sweet.

Did you get sorted re batteries today ??

Andy

AndyG 09-10-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys (Post 421686)
Did you get sorted re batteries today ??

no mate - nothing in stock that suited.

probably gonna ask for a lend :wub & order some on Flea Bay - good value :thumbsup:

DCM 09-10-2010 09:04 PM

Some things I try to leave till last when spraying, that is Fluro and Chrome colours, as they are the most likely I have found for lifting.

AndyG 09-10-2010 09:45 PM

yep - as I say, live n learn.

shell #2 tomorrow - mine

AndyG 10-10-2010 09:08 PM

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1318974_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...4_229915_n.jpg

Reasonably happy with this one - I like to keep mine simple - nice colours, clean lines, nothing too fussy.

Check out the bling wing.

jonmiller 10-10-2010 09:31 PM

lookin good dude, i like it. should do the window trims chrome perhaps

looks like you need to back the chrome on the wing?

AndyG 10-10-2010 09:33 PM

yep - the wing needs backing.

Can't decide whether to do the window trims. Not sure I'm keen on it personally.

jonmiller 10-10-2010 09:36 PM

perhaps back it in the blue you used on the shell so it matches.

AndyG 10-10-2010 09:38 PM

back the chrome with blue ?? can you do that ?

I thought you'd only back it with white :-S

jonmiller 10-10-2010 10:03 PM

most say you should back it in black, even me. ive backed it with other colors before in certain situations without much difference in appearence

AndyG 16-11-2010 09:57 PM

ok, already grown out of the above shell :p

Rather happy with my latest work. Getting slightly more adventurous each time out !....

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7036927_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1716758_n.jpg

jonmiller 16-11-2010 10:17 PM

very nice, good job andy

:thumbsup:

AndyG 16-11-2010 10:42 PM

ta mate.

Number of errors per shell is going down, as I gain a tad more experience each time.

Could do with some decent stickers though.

Limiting myself to black n white ones so they tie in nicely.

Here's another recent one.... again, simple, but nice colours....

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5587680_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5288735_n.jpg

AndyG 18-10-2011 08:23 PM

dug my old thread out so my progress can be seen.

Here's my latest S2 shell painted up for my darling VEGA ... :wub

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6039/...07f0e6d395.jpg
DSC01640 by eterrier, on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6060/...1b110b0736.jpg
DSC01641 by eterrier, on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6105/...36fe0bbde2.jpg
DSC01642 by eterrier, on Flickr

First time I've cut all the lines by hand rather than by using a trim tape underneath the liquid mask - I won't be going back either. Just takes a bit of courage.

Really please with the results, and credit to Mr Miller whose designs I used for a spot of influence.

Feedback welcome !! :thumbsup:


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