Off Road Moto Arena
 

If the motor arena had on indoor off road track Astro or Carpet would you attend on a regular basis? Midweek and weekends?

If no then please post you reasons.

Thanks

Matt

I think you'll struggle to get more than a handfull to attend on a regular basis...
Assuming that I'm correct it's not really worth them building it, because (despite what some think) if you build it they still might not come.

Why? PDA had a regular good attendance.

Would there be much to build? lay some carpet/astro, couple of jumps... i'm sure there'd be some demand for local-ish indoor racing at some point during the week, especially with winter on its way!

And in summer?

I've asked this question in several threads and never recieved an answer.... If PDA was as great as most seem to think, why did it close?

They lost the venue......

Thanks Daz

Which days exactly?

I guess there's two options in the summer...

A) continue to run with an indoor set-up

B) make use of the out door track.

Having not seen the outdoor track or know what plans they have for it then i'm not sure how viable that option is.

Would attend sometimes, we don't get out much these days:cry:

Carpet & some sort of jumps & bumps, you possibly missed this sort of thing from Newbury (now all TC I believe). But a few years ago had very much loved offroad meetings. (with crossovers:woot:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o0GUqXv3X8



(sorry cannot see astro working inside)

It's a hypothetical question. I've not even spoke to the motor arena yet. I'm just gauging interest.

Was there last nigt with SmartAlec and speaking to a guy who worked there basically said that off-road was a no go as there was no one to maintain the track, switching between on/off road etc. Cant see a issue myself but that is what he said.

We (SRCMCC) were approached by Moto Arena to run indoor off road meetings, we were very interested in doing this, however i left contact details with them and even took trips over to see them, but had no contact from them and still nothing has come of this. Im not sure its something they want to persue as Alec says it dosent fit in with the 'image' of the full size circuit.

If its something they want to happen then im sure as a club we could maybe work something out, but as i said to MKRCTC 'they need you more than you need them'

There were a few of us who went to the Moto Arena straight after the Big Weekender Silverstone meet.The guy in charge (Grant?) was ok with buggies going around the track at the time and i must say it was good fun drifting around on my turf rippers alongside the touring cars.

It could be good if it happens.

The ball is in their court,im sure if they really wanted it to happen they would be talking to SRCMCC

Just curious, what was the average attendance and how much did it cost to race?

on a good night think there was about 30 people (PTRU correct me if i wrong), and it was £8 to race (again PTRU, if im wrong)

you beat me to our announcement;)
this will be posted on a new thread in the next couple of days, after our meeting the other day it was decided that MA will have an offroad indoor setup.
plans for this are already in motion and it should be ready to race on in as little as 4 weeks time.
planned days for use will be Tuesdays and Saturdays:thumbsup:
the staff on the doors have not yet been informed but will be shortly

Good news, Who is involved in running this then?

I hope the jump that was on the track last night isnt the ones you are thinking of using.

Good new indeed, if you need any help/advice i'm only 8 miles down the road and after our visit yesterday evening i'm sure (if asked) Paul and myself could give you a few ideas :thumbsup:
Please please please if you have no one actually experienced with making jumps can you ask the right people as that will be the biggest problem if it's not done right from the off.

Come on Guys, lets get behind this. With a little assistance/advice we may end up with a very good indoor venue.

Let's hear your ideas?

Astro turf for me all the way. Some good jumps, a wall of death, and ladys fingers rumble sections for me.

Thanks Alec, and I thought were mates!!!

Sorry, do I know you? :p

Really Matthew :D

Mate, I reckon you could run your zimmer frame round the current track, nothing too complicated for the "supervet" as his eyesight is going!

Sounds perfect for me and DC ............. Yeehaaa :thumbsup:

So is Moto Arena now competing with Silverstone off road club for the members?

guys, we want all the input we can possibly get so its right from the off:thumbsup: Matt, Paul and Alec id like to arrange a meeting with you guys, is that possible and when?
Matt has my number:)

no, MA is hosting a winter series alongside Kyosho/Team Orion, we dont want to have the stuff to make an indoor offroad track and not use it for anything else;)
do Silverstone race on Tuesdays and Saturdays?

Sounds like some positive decisions are being made by Moto Arena

The whole emmergence of this venue has been curious....

For me Moto Arena need to do the following in order to encourage people to support them & actually race there...

• Set out a clear agenda of what classes they want to run & on what days/evenings, obviously some times will be set aside for corporate events, parties, arrive & drive etc (which will be required to get the necessary revenue for the up-keep of such a place)

• I think MA need to take the 'bull by the horns' & run the regular meetings themselves... involving already established clubs I think complicates things - with conflicts of interests & membership fee issues. Obviously for large BRCA sanctioned events, the BRCA's input would be required.

• Set-out a clear pricing schedule - the three different pricing plans advertised on the website I think have completely scared people off, especially as it is not clear what you would be getting for each plan. For me Moto Arena should be THE CLUB & there would be annual membership fee - this would give you discounted on-the-day race fees & the option of joining the BRCA, if you're not already a member - a system used by most clubs in the UK. Maybe as the Arena settles and starts to attract members who race regularly (possibly more than once a week) Then they can offer annual subscriptions that allows the driver to race at any meeting without any additional race fees/free practice during allocated times + other privileges. The cost of the 'Gold' plan would be comparable to Golf Club membership - or a season ticket for the Northampton Saints... which some racers might - 'might' be interested in if they raced there enough. Most of us racers however don't just race at one venue - so with other club fees - the 'Gold' plan is way out of most racer's pockets. There should also be an option for non-members to race with a one-off on the day fee without any other membership commitments.

• Get the advice from seasoned racers/BRCA organisers on each of the tracks & make the necessary alterations before running race meetings on them (sounds like this could happen for the possible off road meetings:)) - I went to have a look myself a couple of weekends ago, for me the outdoor on road track looked nice but rather too narrow generally (though raceable) - the rostrum was stuck too far down one end (especially considering the tracks width) & needs centralising (maybe it need moving to the otherside along the straight if there is room?). The outdoor off road track was obviously designed by someone who's never raced off-road - the area allocated is too small really, but the space could be much better utilised by not having the banked track dividers - which leaves very little room for the cars in the 'gulley' an in some areas must make the cars difficult to see? The indoor on-road track is obviously the centrepiece for the Arena and has the potential to be great (I can't think of another indoor tarmac track in the UK?) But the track markers would be much better if they were shaped concrete like the outdoor track - though I understand improvements are being made to the current plastic markers with the introduction of flappy corners etc. Generally for all tracks, for really big meetings there seems to be a lack of pitting areas & the tracks seemed to have been designed without consideration for marshal points.... but all these critisms can be sorted out in due course i'm sure.

The On-road genre suits the Area's location by the full-size track but unfortunately its come at a time when on-road racing is experiencing a bit of a down turn - though the number of drivers that have pre-booked for Ardent's winter series show that its still very popular. I think making the indoor track into a temporary off road track is a good idea but it needs to be done right.... on that tarmac floor with the rigid plastic markers there could be alot of people going home with broken cars :( Obviously in an ideal world there would be the room indoors for a full size permanent on-road tarmac track with a full size lime-clay dirt off road track alongside.... just like the Yatabe Arena in Japan - now that would be a popular venue in the UK!

:thumbsup:

Id race at an indoor off road track...!! :thumbsup:

there needs to be a permanent venue for indoor electric. There isn't anywhere to go and practice!?

Im sure numbers would build up as soon as the word gets out.

I used to go to PDA, that was an awsome set up.. a lot of 1/8 drivers brought a 1/10 just to race. This has got to be a good thing.

so i hope something will come out of this thread. good luck!

I like your style!!!:D

I'm only 15 mins away and have said before I will provide help and input if you want

will this offroad winter series be on sundays as most clubs in the area have / are setting their winter series dates !

do we presume that MA will have their own timing equipment ?

thanks in anticipation

Tuesdays and Saturdays sound good to me! Mrs at work means no "pass" required!:thumbsup:

Dale from RC-Timing has supplied us with the software and we have our own decoder, just need handout pt's but i think some from MRT may be a better option:)
We will try not to clash with other clubs on dates, ill be looking at getting seperate calendars together for on and off road events from other places first before a decision is made on dates

any idea of surface for indoor offroad as yet ?

initial thoughts are,

carpet jumps and landing section
tarmac straights
maybe some astro for corners or landing sections

ive asked a couple of guys from here to help out with whats best, it needs to be right from the off:)

avoid the sand filled astro if you can, it is extremely heavy to move and could cause problems if you want to run an onroad event the next day ;)

offroad clubs in the area are coventry , silverstone and stotfold on sundays, think hinckley may run on saturdays ?

there is a wealth of 1/10th offroad experience and knowledge of different tracks and surfaces in this area, a couple have already offered and i can think of a few more at least (it may be worth setting up a meeting for all interested drivers/parties ) :thumbsup: