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tellor 22-09-2010 08:12 PM

Anyone heard of this legend?
 
Some say... he's a motorsport superdude.

Some say... he's an RC legend

Some say...He's a cock!

Here is his CV from Moto Arena

"Alan Leighton is RC Manager - over 30 years of racing experience inluding BRCA PRO Officer, BRCA Section Secretary & Chairman. RC racing: 1/10th Scale TC, IC, F1, Pro 10, 2 & 4 wheel drive off road, 1/12 scale, 1/5 scale, 1/8 scale, various classes of cars and bikes also aircraft. Also full size Motor Racing/Sports: from Stock Cars, Spedeworth, Brisca, Legend, Indoor and Outdoor Karting, Motorcyle On and Off Road, Trials, Formula 1 etc. Alan has vast experience and vast knowlege of all forms of RC racing and Motorsport in general -too much to list here!)"

i like the bit about Formula 1 etc. If I was putting this on my CV I'd go the whole hog and include the following;
Nasa lecturer
1st man to set foot on the surface of the sun
300 caps for England including triple hat trick in the world cup final.. on my debut!

Has this guy had any time to go to bed!!!

What would you add to you legendry CV?

davidmog99 22-09-2010 08:57 PM

cant find.
 
I cant find this on the website. please link.

mark christopher 22-09-2010 09:27 PM

http://www.motoarenadriversclub.com/about-us.php

telboy 22-09-2010 09:32 PM

Could mean Historic F1?

Darren Boyle 22-09-2010 09:32 PM

If it is the Alan Leighton that I am thinking of and know, most of that is actually spot on about him, and he is a really nice guy with it too tbh....

simond001 23-09-2010 10:42 AM

No poll on this one ?

:D

funny though that when you Google Alan Leighton he first appears on page 6. Thats after a man from Asda, a man from the post office, a union rep, a plumber and a wedding photographer. There was one entry with a guy being called a c*nt but it wasnt him. (I checked).

When he does appear it is this thread!

the guy truly is a leg end :)

Smartalec 23-09-2010 10:57 AM

So truthfully, he's never been heard of until yesterday :lol:
Must have kept all his talents a secret ......... perhaps he's just shy :blush:

KRob 23-09-2010 11:17 AM

I know Alan from racing 12th circuit nationals for about 10 years. He also raced a fair bit at PRO 10 and touring car nationals.
He was 12th section Secretary for a few years and then Chairman for a couple of years. He had a passion for the sport and was prepared to give his time to it.
He also organised a 12th Euros in Boston (Lincs, obviously) in the early noughties.
I think the reference to Forumla 1 is to do with the Stock Cars F1 class but has been seperated from where it should be...

SlowOne 23-09-2010 04:40 PM

So, truthfully, SmartAlec has never heard of him - needs to get out more!

Other RC legends you have never heard of...

Andy Dobson, Phil Stone, Les Pipe, Art Carbonnel, Re-Pete Fusco, Phil Davies, Pete Stevens, Rory Cull, and the list goes on. Very poor comment from an ignorant person IMHO. Alan has one thing about him that makes him ideal for that job, patience. In his full-time job he has worked with some very awkward people, and worked with them well. Some people have lived a full life, and some haven't - Alan is the former.

Perhaps a visit to Moto Arena and having a chat with Alan might improve your opinion - but then why let the facts get in the way of your good story!

simond001 23-09-2010 04:54 PM

[QUOTE=SlowOne;416651]
Perhaps a visit to Moto Arena and having a chat with Alan might improve your opinion /QUOTE]

Maybe that's how we learn't that he is a bit of a cock :thumbsup:

Smartalec 23-09-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowOne (Post 416651)
So, truthfully, SmartAlec has never heard of him - needs to get out more!

Other RC legends you have never heard of...

Andy Dobson, Phil Stone, Les Pipe, Art Carbonnel, Re-Pete Fusco, Phil Davies, Pete Stevens, Rory Cull, and the list goes on. Very poor comment from an ignorant person IMHO. Alan has one thing about him that makes him ideal for that job, patience. In his full-time job he has worked with some very awkward people, and worked with them well. Some people have lived a full life, and some haven't - Alan is the former.

Perhaps a visit to Moto Arena and having a chat with Alan might improve your opinion - but then why let the facts get in the way of your good story!

So my one small comment on a thread that I didn't start has certainly rubbed you up the wrong way then. You haven't had a go at anyone else who made a comment!!!, perhaps they know who you are? I don't have that pleasure do I?

I'd read it again if I were you I don't think it says anywhere in my post that I personally hadn't heard of Alan does it?
I think you should say "very poor tongue in cheek comment from an ignorant person" ......... that might fit a bit better don't you think?

Come and find me at the next meeting i'm at and introduce yourself and we'll have a little chat about how ignorant I am :)

learnerdriver 23-09-2010 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowOne (Post 416651)
So, truthfully, SmartAlec has never heard of him - needs to get out more!

Other RC legends you have never heard of...

Andy Dobson, Phil Stone, Les Pipe, Art Carbonnel, Re-Pete Fusco, Phil Davies, Pete Stevens, Rory Cull, and the list goes on. Very poor comment from an ignorant person IMHO. Alan has one thing about him that makes him ideal for that job, patience. In his full-time job he has worked with some very awkward people, and worked with them well. Some people have lived a full life, and some haven't - Alan is the former.

Perhaps a visit to Moto Arena and having a chat with Alan might improve your opinion - but then why let the facts get in the way of your good story!

You need to hurry up if you want a chat with alan at MA, word on the grapevine is that his customer approach wasnt up to scratch and is soon to depart !

Smartalec 23-09-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by learnerdriver (Post 416679)
You need to hurry up if you want a chat with alan at MA, word on the grapevine is that his customer approach wasnt up to scratch and is soon to depart !

I can't comment Chris, I don't want to upset anyone LOL

KRob 23-09-2010 05:50 PM

But Alec, I only have to look at you and my stomach is upset...

SlowOne 23-09-2010 06:49 PM

Alec - communication is 60% body language, 30% tone of voice and 10% words. Your 10% didn't come across like that to me.

Still, KRob obviously knows you, so if your tum is bad enough for him, it's bad enough for me!! :D (said with a smile on my face in a jokey voice, just to get us up to 100% communication!!)

DCM 23-09-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by learnerdriver (Post 416679)
You need to hurry up if you want a chat with alan at MA, word on the grapevine is that his customer approach wasnt up to scratch and is soon to depart !

I could possibly comment, but MA and Alan have got me kinda annoyed :(

simond001 23-09-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by learnerdriver (Post 416679)
You need to hurry up if you want a chat with alan at MA, word on the grapevine is that his customer approach wasnt up to scratch and is soon to depart !

Whilst my personal opinon isn't that favourable, I would hope that he is given the opportunity to turn things around.

The web make every mistake very public, this thread is proof of that, but he is still a chap who may have a family reliant upon him.

Maybe this thread is the call that they need at Moto arena to clean up and smarten up their act. They have fantastic facilities but need the support of the racers, the BRCA, championship organisers and the goodwill of all the parents, sponsors and club officials.

If Alan can sort his pr and Sylvia can be more realistic with her promotional material I'm sure over the next few months the track can flourish. It's such a shame that all the publicity they get is negative, but that is a reflection of the publics view at the moment.

ps. can they reset the rally simulator so I'm not the slowest driver ever please.

learnerdriver 23-09-2010 08:23 PM

I think the track can best flourish without the two afore mentioned staff

Improvements and changes are being put into place as we speak !

As you say , fantastic facilities but poor customer services, at present

It will be very interesting to see how things develop in the next few weeks

As they say, watch this space :D

Smartalec 23-09-2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRob (Post 416682)
But Alec, I only have to look at you and my stomach is upset...

Cheers old friend ............. how's the job hunting going? :D

Smartalec 23-09-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowOne (Post 416698)
Your 10% didn't come across like that to me.

So enlighten me, how did it come across then? :confused:

David Church 24-09-2010 05:32 AM

Can you feel the love:D

PaulUpton 24-09-2010 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowOne (Post 416651)
So, truthfully, SmartAlec has never heard of him - needs to get out more!

Other RC legends you have never heard of...

Andy Dobson, Phil Stone, Les Pipe, Art Carbonnel, Re-Pete Fusco, Phil Davies, Pete Stevens, Rory Cull, and the list goes on. Very poor comment from an ignorant person IMHO. Alan has one thing about him that makes him ideal for that job, patience. In his full-time job he has worked with some very awkward people, and worked with them well. Some people have lived a full life, and some haven't - Alan is the former.

Perhaps a visit to Moto Arena and having a chat with Alan might improve your opinion - but then why let the facts get in the way of your good story!

Ummmmmm no cant say ive heard of them either, been racing long enough aswell before you say.

I dont know Alan, but from a outside perspective of his work at MA, its not great. He managed to change the track indoors to 9 sec laps cutting out more than 50% of the track, and cause the track to be a car breaker. If someone had years of RC experience im sure they would know how to design or know what makes a good track.

Yes they are/have changing/changed the track again to suit but in my eyes in little to late, they have already lost the credability they deserve by having 4 (correct me if im wrong) launches. It looks the PR person dosent communicate with the other staff there. I think there all on another planet.

I'd love to see the venue flurish and go from stength to strenth, but they need to be asking the right questions to the right people.

SlowOne, truthfully looks like not many people have heard of Alan, but those who know him only have good things to say about him, so im sure hes a great guy. But you cant assume that everyone in RC has heard of the so called 'legends' you have mentioned. Would love to know your real name aswell :)

PTRU 24-09-2010 08:02 AM

Hi pips
I happen to know Alan and Sylvia, they have always been very helpful and good at there jobs in the past Alan helped Tony in his early years of racing with 1/12th.

It sounds to me as if they may have a bigger input to there situation by others in the orginisation who do not have a clue always a problem.

Good luck in this venture there will be problems it is how they are sorted out, will show the stregth of the team. What we as racing people must remember this is not just a racing venue. There must be alot of pressure to make this work from its investers.

Jim Spencer 24-09-2010 08:07 AM

Hi

Hmm, folks who don't want other folks to know who they are, expressing opinions they know nothing about on a subject they no little about..
Just about sums up most forums really..

Alan's CV might read as a bit OTT (but who's doesn't if you're doing it for PR purposes?) but it's about right I reckon, some major bits of our sport wouldn't be here (or would be a lot smaller) without the input he's had over the years - legend in those circles is about right.

While the OP's initial question could have been much better worded when asking about somebody - at least he asked..
...And now knows the answer.
Though personally I might have been tempted to do that sort of thing via email, as there's no point confirming most of the first paragraph is there? :lol:


If however the last few posts are correct then IMHO that's a total disaster to the MA people as far as the RC Racing is concerned*.
MA have a credibility problem in the race organisers community, and if he's not there then that link has gone and he would be very hard to replace - less than a dozen folks I know of with that level of event & section experience, and don't think any of them are short of something to do.

* (the corporate stuff which must be it's core business is totally different, and something the Racing community needs to get it's head round IMHO)

mk2kompressor 24-09-2010 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulUpton (Post 416840)
Ummmmmm no cant say ive heard of them either, been racing long enough aswell before you say.

I dont know Alan, but from a outside perspective of his work at MA, its not great. He managed to change the track indoors to 9 sec laps cutting out more than 50% of the track, and cause the track to be a car breaker. If someone had years of RC experience im sure they would know how to design or know what makes a good track.

Yes they are/have changing/changed the track again to suit but in my eyes in little to late, they have already lost the credability they deserve by having 4 (correct me if im wrong) launches. It looks the PR person dosent communicate with the other staff there. I think there all on another planet.

I'd love to see the venue flurish and go from stength to strenth, but they need to be asking the right questions to the right people.

SlowOne, truthfully looks like not many people have heard of Alan, but those who know him only have good things to say about him, so im sure hes a great guy. But you cant assume that everyone in RC has heard of the so called 'legends' you have mentioned. Would love to know your real name aswell :)

Alan did not make the track a car breaker, the contractor did by putting too many bolts in the track and having wood sticking right the way out in the flappers/hairpins.
We decided to shorten the track as a temporary measure (slowing it down) until we figured out the best short term and long term solution (short term has been completed and the track is now full size again)

As mentioned above MA needs corporate AND you race guys to flourish, dont forget something of this scale will need time to figure out.

Chrislong 24-09-2010 09:35 AM

Give the guy a break. I don't know him, but im not about to make enemies out of people I don't know, as how do I then avoid them? or duck to avoid a broken nose? :lol:

Although, listing F1 (if he did mean it as Stock Cars), Brisca and Stock Cars all separatley is a bit 'pulling the wool'. If he is sending the CV to anyone who know's, then its obvious he is naming 1 sport by 3 names and naming them separately and looks very bad on him doing that. Unless he mean F1 Stock Cars, F2 Stock Cars and another variety... constructive criticism.

mk2kompressor 24-09-2010 09:50 AM

Alan didn't put the cv together ;)

dale 24-09-2010 09:57 AM

Listing F1 on your CV doesn't mean you've been an F1 driver; remember that there are 1000s of people who work in F1 other than a few drivers. I have 4 years of F1 on my CV... as a software developer at the Brawn/Mercedes team.

As for the whole "Alan is a cock" nonsense, that's pretty typical of forums, you wouldn't say that to his face would you?

If you don't like MA, don't race there. If you want to race there but don't like some aspects of it, suggest what needs to be improved. Maybe they will listen, maybe they won't. Either way you still have a choice of where you spend your free time.

Smartalec 24-09-2010 01:55 PM

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Could this be the LEGEND hiding behind the "SlowOne" tag I wonder? ........... Also known as Pete Winton :)

lewis 24-09-2010 02:11 PM

Never heard of him :woot:

Smartalec 24-09-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis (Post 416996)
Never heard of him :woot:

You should get out more you ignorant git :lol:

bondy 24-09-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulUpton (Post 416840)
Ummmmmm no cant say ive heard of them either, been racing long enough aswell before you say.

I dont know Alan, but from a outside perspective of his work at MA, its not great. He managed to change the track indoors to 9 sec laps cutting out more than 50% of the track, and cause the track to be a car breaker. If someone had years of RC experience im sure they would know how to design or know what makes a good track.

Yes they are/have changing/changed the track again to suit but in my eyes in little to late, they have already lost the credability they deserve by having 4 (correct me if im wrong) launches. It looks the PR person dosent communicate with the other staff there. I think there all on another planet.

I'd love to see the venue flurish and go from stength to strenth, but they need to be asking the right questions to the right people.

SlowOne, truthfully looks like not many people have heard of Alan, but those who know him only have good things to say about him, so im sure hes a great guy. But you cant assume that everyone in RC has heard of the so called 'legends' you have mentioned. Would love to know your real name aswell :)

Andy Dobson, Phil Davies, Pete Stevens, Rory Cull If you have not heard of these guys then where have you been ????? :confused:

Chequered Flag Racing 24-09-2010 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis (Post 416996)
Never heard of him :woot:

I have :D

also known as 'SlowerOne' on rctech

mattybucks 24-09-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondy (Post 417029)
Andy Dobson, Phil Davies, Pete Stevens, Rory Cull If you have not heard of these guys then where have you been ????? :confused:


Who gives a ****. The only person/people i'm interested in is the person i'm chasing on the track, and the people I pit with.

SlowOne 24-09-2010 05:20 PM

Blimey, that's one from the archives - British Team Champions 2003/4 (and 2009/10!). Not quite as cherished as my Phil Davies Team Trophy from Wickham 2003 (we won both days), or my 'Murray Walker Award' from Chesham Buggy Club in 19-*cough*cough*!!

Agree with Jim, people have got to learn to deal with RC as an occasional thing enjoyed by the general public, as well as a dedicated hobby. Look at track days - huge numbers of people have a go, but most will never take up even Club Racing, let alone competitive motor racing. MA have a mountain to climb, not helped by too many dedicated RC drivers trying to create an avalanche from the top!! If you want a dedicated indoor facility that caters for all forms of indoor track racing, try Ardent. If you want something that will attract more people to consider taking up RC, then support MA as well.

DaveG28 24-09-2010 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowOne (Post 417049)
Blimey, that's one from the archives - British Team Champions 2003/4 (and 2009/10!). Not quite as cherished as my Phil Davies Team Trophy from Wickham 2003 (we won both days), or my 'Murray Walker Award' from Chesham Buggy Club in 19-*cough*cough*!!

Agree with Jim, people have got to learn to deal with RC as an occasional thing enjoyed by the general public, as well as a dedicated hobby. Look at track days - huge numbers of people have a go, but most will never take up even Club Racing, let alone competitive motor racing. MA have a mountain to climb, not helped by too many dedicated RC drivers trying to create an avalanche from the top!! If you want a dedicated indoor facility that caters for all forms of indoor track racing, try Ardent. If you want something that will attract more people to consider taking up RC, then support MA as well.

That seems to me to be a very very sensible post!

university_dave 24-09-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowOne (Post 417049)
Blimey, that's one from the archives - British Team Champions 2003/4 (and 2009/10!). Not quite as cherished as my Phil Davies Team Trophy from Wickham 2003 (we won both days), or my 'Murray Walker Award' from Chesham Buggy Club in 19-*cough*cough*!!

Agree with Jim, people have got to learn to deal with RC as an occasional thing enjoyed by the general public, as well as a dedicated hobby. Look at track days - huge numbers of people have a go, but most will never take up even Club Racing, let alone competitive motor racing. MA have a mountain to climb, not helped by too many dedicated RC drivers trying to create an avalanche from the top!! If you want a dedicated indoor facility that caters for all forms of indoor track racing, try Ardent. If you want something that will attract more people to consider taking up RC, then support MA as well.

Very true, but race tracks that hold trackdays - like Silverstone - have to be suitable for BOTH race meetings and trackday punters. At the moment the Moto Arena track in no way caters for racers, and I don't think it is ideal for beginners either.

Moto Arena is currently a fantastic venue with a poor track. It has so much potential and there are a lot of people out there that really want it to succeed - and want to help be a part of it and get everything sorted out. What is a disappointment is that from the racers point of view all this seems to be just ignored.

Hopefully things will be sorted out in the next few weeks - it needs to be otherwise they'll miss out on the shot at hosting big meetings next season.

mk2kompressor 24-09-2010 06:35 PM

Have you been down since the track changes?
As I said earlier in this thread, phase 1 is complete

DCM 24-09-2010 06:44 PM

It would be helpful if the guys in charge of the website, would post up to date pictures then, so people can see what is happening rather than just hear say of what is?

mk2kompressor 24-09-2010 07:24 PM

They are updating it daily, new web people have been drafted in to get it up to date with the latest info.
new pics (loads) are being added to the MA facebook page today and tomorrow :)


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