Endurance Electric final
 

does anyone fancy running a 10 or 20 minute final at some one-off event/race this winter?

maybe even if its just a 'race' in between qually and finals with a group of racers?

Lee - I fancy coming over to your track some-time-soon to see how long I can get out of my car.

sounds interesting. I would be up for it. I could also be up for a le mans type race. 12 hour enurance.

Maybe we could do it for charity???

i ran a endurance race for 3 hours as a sponsered event to raise money to run my little club i had some rules like amount of batts allowed per team chargers and stuff it was great fun well worth doing:)

a team endurance event would be a great idea

I think Chris is goin for more the 20 min A main stylee they hade in the states a while ago with trucks.. I'm up for both ideas though, as a one off!

10 mins we could do with normal equipment i.e. 4200's and brushless.

20 mins NEEDS LIPO which is a different kettle of fish for most of us.

I like the idea of both.

a 'special' one-off final where people might need special equipment.

or a long (3 hour plus) team endurance race.

I think this is something electric racing is missing, but is possible to be done with todays technology.

also note, this is suggestion/idea for one-off event, nothing to do with the BRCA national series

We have a 6 hour race in the North East (Mike Leonard at Teeside). It's been ace the last 2 years, the first time cos we won and the 2nd cos we ran team vintage and still came 3rd.

It really is great fun and one of my favourite events of the year!

Yes the Mike Leonard is a great example. It is 6 hours of pure fun and excitment:D

I might enter that next time its on, when its on?

Why does it need liPo? All you need to do is have a pit stop to change batteries in the middle. Makes it more interesting in a 20 minute race, do you go for gearing for 10 minutes with one pitstop or gear for less runtime and two pitstops.

After all they used to run 30 minute finals in US oval racing in the late 80s with 1400mah batteries. For a one off event it is unlikely anyone will build a quick change battery system.

the thing about most electric endurance races is that they just have '5 minute' stints and swap driver and car.

the aim is more to run 1 car for the distance, be it a 20 minute final or a 3 hour endurance race.

with regard to quick change batteries, more power to the guy who puts in the effort to do that.

Yeah, the old endurance races (including the Paris 24 hour race) just used one car with battery/motor/tyres/repairs as needed. PB must have sold many more quick change battery mounts than Mini Mustangs. If they could make the buggies run for 24 hours in the 80s surely modern chassis can manage it.

20 min lipo!!!

lets do it!!

ive competed in it the past 2years and it was brilliant. the first time i was in team york and we won [no help from me :D] and second time with a fun team. its always fun. i think it is normally held february, march time at teeside.

do you fancy putting on an exibition race at one of your winter meetings then Lee?

Terry - yes, (we always say this.. but...) Donisthorpe 24 hour race was amazing, one car, 24 hours, quick change batteries, hour long stints driving the car with pit-stops...

im up for it!!!

where do i get me a lipo!

See how long you can run on nmhi's I think you would be able to get close to 20 mins.

Either a few one off long races or a Team race would be awesome - Maximum concentration needed at CML Raceway too so that would be good to see how people got on......

Do it do it!!!

I definately be up for an endurance. Surely we could sort maybe an 8 hour one at Lee's, perhaps 2 cars and teams of 5?

wonder if 1 person and 1 car could last a 6 hour endurance?

How about with 1 set of tyres? :D

I can't imagine a brushed set-up doing the distance but no reason you couldn't do it with brushless really? You'd probably not make all the jumps every lap without the chance of breaking it though so would probably be hard work resisting the temptation of ramping it 5 hours in :)

Definitely something to plan though, a 6 hour race on a Saturday followed by a big pi$$ up on the Sat evening would always be fun.

i think a 10 -12 min final would be vary do able with are std equipment 2wd or 4wd,i would love it

There was a similar thing a few years ago, we all ran the same 15 turn motor and were in team of 4 or so, was a brilliant time, i'd def be up for it! Teams of 4 or 5 with even ability to make it fair.

Three of us shared a 15-minute IC truck final at a wet Coventry club meeting a while ago.

I was leading with my 4WD at 8 minutes (both before and after the trucks had stopped for fuel) when my 3300s dumped.

One of the other guys, running brushed, was still moving at 15 minutes and came third! :)

I used to race 5 hr endurance races at Ashford years ago. they were the highlight of the year, a really good laugh. Teams of 5 drivers with their own car and you had a quick pitstop change over to swap the transponder from one car to the next and off you went.
This would be easy to set up with todays cars. You could run 8-9 minute stints with brushless and 4200's.

I'd be well up for a single car endurance race, but i think the team event would be easier and cheaper to organise as it wouldn't involve butchering a car and motor like a single car event.

Lee - defo organise one for CML raceway!!

how about 'open' endurance rules?

you can run a team event with transponder relay type, or you can enter just 1 car, or you can enter just 1 driver?

it should please everyone, even the hardcore enduro pureists

Yeah can't see why not - makes it fair really as you'll all still have to stop and change batt's or whatever so would be cool

I remember a Team Race we did at Aylesbury, must have been around 1999/2000 but there was me, Craggy and Pidge in one team against Ellis, i think Truman..... and Bloomfield but we still won :cool: Remember that Lee??

how many tire changes do you think a car would need for 6 hours?

in the dry at CML Raceway Bow-Ties work well for at least 7 runs, the ribs up front don't really wear.

I recon you could be quick with a set of tires an hour?

i think if u use M2's u could go for an hour! they would get better!

I could!!! The question is could the marshalls keep up with me crashing:D

If you want to try it ill drive solid for 6 hours aslong as the car is going nice and i have a pit bitch. and someone to feed me.

would need M2 ribs also, else it a bit of a drifter on the tarmac first corner.

I reckon i've got enough to supply everyone for a 6 hour race with M2's :D

I think we definately need to get this sorted!

im sure i have 15 sets in the house

definately, all round yours then Lee???

I really want to go for running 1 car the whole race, I even fancy trying to go the distance myself :wtf:

I would love to see if i could go the full distance of 6 hours you would need a good pit bitch.

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Will the timing equipment do 6 hours? Id love to do it but somehow cant see my parents taking my half way down the country to smash my car on the first corner :D

The Mike Leonard event is great, 6 hours racing non stop, you never stop doing something either racing or helping your team.
It works that your team marshalls your cars and sometimes other teams help by moving you further away from your marshall :D
Its all a great day and for a annual thing its definately worth doing and is a really good day and for a good cause.
Different to what your proposing though as you do as long as you can which usually is 6 or 7 minutes and then you just switch with a team member, stick a battery in and wait till its your turn again. I think 6 hours with one car would be rough on it lol, i guess with brushless though it should be oaky but I wonder if it would last that time without thermalling