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JustARcFan 04-08-2010 02:00 PM

TRF511 discontinued?
 
Seems that the 511 kit is sold out almost for 3 months now in all big stores (RCMART, Dinball, RC model, Mushroom etc).

I've sent an email to ask when it will be back in stock and they said the kit was discontinued.

Maybe an updated version wil hit the markets soon :woot:

MikePimlott 04-08-2010 02:25 PM

apparently the TRF's are made in a one off production run for team drivers. the drivers have there allocated number of kits from the production and then the rest go on sale to the public.

once they're gone, they're gone

DaveG28 04-08-2010 02:31 PM

They are available in the US ;)

/tobys 04-08-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikePimlott (Post 401059)
apparently the TRF's are made in a one off production run for team drivers. the drivers have there allocated number of kits from the production and then the rest go on sale to the public.

once they're gone, they're gone

is that the same for the 201?

mattybucks 04-08-2010 02:37 PM

what about the spares, are they still going to be available?

MikePimlott 04-08-2010 02:43 PM

From the source:

Hello,
Yes all of "TRF" series kits are limited edition items.
Normally Tamiya only makes this "TRF" kit in one shot or sometimes do a little amount of extras.
For example,TRF416X kit got sell out already but Tamiya announced they make it again this month.
Sometimes extras are for TRF Team Drivers but they only needs about 20 kits.But Tamiya can't make only 20 kits,need to make a few hundred of kits.Then Tamiya release rests to the market.
We have not heard Tamiya will make the TRF511 again so we just need to wait for new "TRF" 4WD buggy.
I suppose Tamiya will not do soon because they still had TRF511 recently.
And I have heard DB01R is sometimes better,so I think Tamiya will not make 4WD buggy with carbon plate chassis.

craigosh 04-08-2010 03:05 PM

I Doubt the 201 will be limited no. as it's all moulded! They've probably just decided to keep with the TRF numbering convention..

Richard Lowe 04-08-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattybucks (Post 401065)
what about the spares, are they still going to be available?

I doubt it, Pidge has them all!

mattybucks 04-08-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 401078)
I doubt it, Pidge has them all!


True, i've looked worldwide for spares for mine, and still can't get them!!!

mof 04-08-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattybucks (Post 401080)
True, i've looked worldwide for spares for mine, and still can't get them!!!


Try here: http://www.racingfactory.fi/products...01XDurga-parts

..if worldwide is ok for you :)

DaveG28 04-08-2010 03:51 PM

Kits are in stock at Tamiyausa, until they run out. Parts are available, not discontinued, just try speedtech or champ and between them pretty much all parts are covered, especially champ as they order from Tam Japan!

Nige 04-08-2010 04:06 PM

Maybe if Tamiya win the next worlds they'll produce a TRF511 WE

Though if they don't make anymore, I feel sorry for those that run them as TRF511 specific spare parts will get even harder to get hold of.

Rich D 04-08-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattybucks (Post 401080)
True, i've looked worldwide for spares for mine, and still can't get them!!!


What spares are you after ? You can get all the common parts from Ebay :confused:

Ive not had any problems. Special order parts id buy from Speedtech USA

mof 04-08-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nige (Post 401104)
Maybe if Tamiya win the next worlds they'll produce a TRF511 WE

Though if they don't make anymore, I feel sorry for those that run them as TRF511 specific spare parts will get even harder to get hold of.


I can get every single part (new, from store, not ebay etc) for my TRF501X, which is discontinued and replaced by 511, so I doubt that the newer 511 would have spares availability problems any time soon...

mattybucks 05-08-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich D (Post 401127)
What spares are you after ? You can get all the common parts from Ebay :confused:

Well so far I have a pair of fron wishbones, shocks and shock towers. I'm just looking to get a spares package together. What do you recommend?

peetbee 05-08-2010 09:50 AM

I'd definitely add:
Rear wishbones
Spare front wheel hexes and spare drive pins.
spare hinge pin balls (can't remember the right name!)

and maybe the front and rear hubs and the front caster blocks.

the more spares you carry the less you need them :woot:

Rich D 05-08-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattybucks (Post 401330)
Well so far I have a pair of fron wishbones, shocks and shock towers. I'm just looking to get a spares package together. What do you recommend?

I'd recommend a belt too. The high traction front wishbones are a bit brittle so I carry 4 spares all the time. Same with the rear wishbones unless you want to use the stronger 501 items. I use 4mm front and rear towers. Yea I have spare wheel hex and pins too. They fall out easily when you change wheels. I held my drive pins in with a dab of anti wear grease. It's really sticky. Although I've never bent one on my 511 as the wishbones are the weak point, I also carry spare hinge pins. HTH

Mouton 05-08-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikePimlott (Post 401068)
From the source:
...

What source is that, if I may ask?

chokoboy 05-08-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mouton (Post 401434)
What source is that, if I may ask?

Yeah i would like to know where u get ur info from, talked to some Tamiya drivers and even they did not know the 511 was discontinued!
One more thing Marc Reinhard don't get 20kits of the 511!

ApexSpeed 05-08-2010 05:02 PM

It's really a shame that Tamiya builds and sells such stellar kits, yet feels the need to not continue production on anything high end once the initial small run is done. I guess they figure their loyal followers will just dump the discontinued model in favor of the latest and greatest.

That same marketing concept has also kept me from buying ANY high end Tamiya product over the years, as much as I have wanted to. I can't own a race car with a 6 month shelf-life, parts supply or not. Those eventually (and quickly) disappear, too.

Mr. Red 05-08-2010 05:40 PM

As someone mentioned before, tamiya still sells and supplies spares for 501. They know they have a great product in the 511.

I believe very strongly that when Tamiya releases the new shaft driven car, that the 511 will live on.

The new car will probably be more plastic to reduce costs.



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peetbee 05-08-2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Red (Post 401490)
The new car will probably be more plastic to reduce costs.

Like the DB01R you mean:woot:

DaveG28 05-08-2010 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Red (Post 401490)
As someone mentioned before, tamiya still sells and supplies spares for 501. They know they have a great product in the 511.

I believe very strongly that when Tamiya releases the new shaft driven car, that the 511 will live on.

The new car will probably be more plastic to reduce costs.



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How do you know it will be shaft driven!? Or plastic!?

DaveG28 05-08-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexSpeed (Post 401474)
It's really a shame that Tamiya builds and sells such stellar kits, yet feels the need to not continue production on anything high end once the initial small run is done. I guess they figure their loyal followers will just dump the discontinued model in favor of the latest and greatest.

That same marketing concept has also kept me from buying ANY high end Tamiya product over the years, as much as I have wanted to. I can't own a race car with a 6 month shelf-life, parts supply or not. Those eventually (and quickly) disappear, too.

Bit extreme, yes they update the trf cars, especially on road, quite often, but when you say "6 month shelf life" the tr511 is @18mths old and no sign of an update yet, kits CAN still be bought (although it looks like "production" is complete), and there's no problem with discontinued parts, so I don't really see your point!? The 501 was their cr for over 2 years too, admittedly with about 800 hopups by the end!!

DaveG28 05-08-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peetbee (Post 401567)
Like the DB01R you mean:woot:

Getting tempted to get another of these for some winter play, do you still run one??

Mr. Red 05-08-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 401575)
How do you know it will be shaft driven!? Or plastic!?

That why I wrote probably;)

To answer yr question. Shaftdriven because they like to follow the trend. Speculation though. The similarity between the yokomo beltcar and the original 501 is obvious. And the same goes for the 201 compared to B4. The differences is that Tamiya did them both better.
And plastic works. Look at the Yokomo and Lazers. So why not. Just speculation on my part but I would not be surprised if that's the case.

peetbee 05-08-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 401577)
Getting tempted to get another of these for some winter play, do you still run one??

Do it, you know it makes sense!
I've still got the DB01 but it's been rebuilt with a DB01R chassis, 3 racing 501 diff halves in the front to match the Tamiya ones in the rear, 511 wishbones and TRF shocks, also got the Atomic Carbon front and rear shock towers.
Must post a picture sometime :)

CraigM 06-08-2010 02:41 AM

All the TRF kits and special order parts (long numbers beginning with 1 or 9) are made in small runs. I'm sure they'll do another run of 511s, just probably not until they build up enough wholesale orders to justify it.

I doubt the 201 will be in the same boat due to it's popularity and lack of carbon components, I'd imagine some of the special parts for it may become scarce between production runs though

FYI I have 2 416s a 511 and a 201, have been dealing with this for a while and rarely have trouble finding the parts I'm after

Welshy40 06-08-2010 05:55 AM

Your obviously not looking hard enough. Most of the spares for the 511 are not available now. I cant find a layshaft anywhere or the rear alloy hub and various other items as well. Ive never come across this before and due to this Tamiya will be going out of my door. I can find more new spares for a lazer zx than the trf511 which is crazy.

mof 06-08-2010 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 401643)
Your obviously not looking hard enough. Most of the spares for the 511 are not available now. I cant find a layshaft anywhere or the rear alloy hub and various other items as well. Ive never come across this before and due to this Tamiya will be going out of my door. I can find more new spares for a lazer zx than the trf511 which is crazy.

There is a new revision of the rear alloy hub coming, which is probably why they are not in stock in most places.

I can't imagine why one would need a new layshaft, if by layshaft you mean the center shaft (how did the old one brake?), but it is hard to imagine why you would get rid of a TRF511 just because you can't wait for the rear alloy hubs and use the stock ones in the mean time....

What is the part number for the layshaft?

If layshaft means the same part as center shaft, part number 84034, and if it is the same for 511 than for 501, then the first two places I looked at both have them in stock:
http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/...oducts_id=3573
http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-trf...t-p-27549.html

Fredrik Emilsson 06-08-2010 06:14 AM

We have solved Welshys problem. He need the 2594039. The 84034 is for the double slipper.

For others that have problem finding parts, try http://www.modellbau-seidel.de

They have most parts in stock like suspension arms, alu hubs, damper towers, uprights, outdrives, pulleys, drive belts etc.

I´ve purchased parts there several times. Cheap and fast shipping.

DaveG28 06-08-2010 06:53 AM

Welshy, is the problem more that most shops aren't stocking the parts, because they ARE available, I would put money both speedtech and champ can get them!

Rich D 06-08-2010 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 401643)
Your obviously not looking hard enough. Most of the spares for the 511 are not available now. I cant find a layshaft anywhere or the rear alloy hub and various other items as well. Ive never come across this before and due to this Tamiya will be going out of my door. I can find more new spares for a lazer zx than the trf511 which is crazy.

I've got a set of nip 53962 rear alloy hubs I'd sell if I'm able to get back what I paid for them. Pm me if interested.

Welshy40 06-08-2010 07:29 AM

Fredrik saved the day. Thank you.

My layshaft bent on my 511 as i had the one way on it and appears that has caused the shaft to bend a fraction. Its noticeable when spun on the bearings alone. So away with the one way. The metal used by Tamiya isnt that great, but a vast improvement compared to what they used to sell.

RC Mushroom had loads but when i ordered five hundred pounds worth they could only supply three hundred. I basically emptied them out. They say they have stock when they do not have and ive come across a few shops that say the same but dont have. Its driving me crazy. I admit Tamiya have finally made something worth buying but the support isnt there which is a pity. Im going to hold onto this as its fun to drive and the last time i had that feeling was with my trusty ZXR.

Guys i cant fault your input and help. Its much appreciated. Thanks.

marco NL 06-08-2010 05:09 PM

they are not discontinued I've asked for Tamiya usa

http://www.tamiyausa.com/search.php?q=trf511

mattybucks 06-08-2010 10:44 PM

a snip at $867.00...............

Csaari77 07-08-2010 04:02 AM

Speedtech has 511 kits in stock for $489.00.

Smartalec 07-08-2010 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 401661)
Fredrik saved the day. Thank you.

My layshaft bent on my 511 as i had the one way on it and appears that has caused the shaft to bend a fraction. Its noticeable when spun on the bearings alone. So away with the one way. The metal used by Tamiya isnt that great, but a vast improvement compared to what they used to sell.

RC Mushroom had loads but when i ordered five hundred pounds worth they could only supply three hundred. I basically emptied them out. They say they have stock when they do not have and ive come across a few shops that say the same but dont have. Its driving me crazy. I admit Tamiya have finally made something worth buying but the support isnt there which is a pity. Im going to hold onto this as its fun to drive and the last time i had that feeling was with my trusty ZXR.

Guys i cant fault your input and help. Its much appreciated. Thanks.

Would that be the one-way I told you to bin when you built the car? :p

U.S.CAT3K 10-08-2010 08:16 PM

Weird...wonder if this is something they just started doing? I seem to remember the original 415 being available for a really long time.

mof 11-08-2010 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U.S.CAT3K (Post 403214)
Weird...wonder if this is something they just started doing? I seem to remember the original 415 being available for a really long time.


What is something they just started doing? There is no fact that it would in fact be discontinued...


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