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NEW B4.1 'Factory Team' - SO IMPRESSED
Well a lot of people including everyone currently using a B4 would think the B4.1 id just a kit with a few new bits added in.
Well it isn't. So so many new parts and so many changes. This is a small list of the changes and I will try and post some pics laters Chassis - for sure of different material and more flex and additional strength up the front nose (although I have never had a problem there) Comes with the all new V2 shocks and they build like a dream and very very smooth Comes with the new slipper clutch and a great crystal clear glass type plastic gear cover - absolutely awesome - love this! New front and rear shock towers although they have been out for a while Comes with 30deg caster blocks that have 3 holes instead of 2 for adjustment The ball studs are all new and adjustable from the top with allen driver Now comes with blue thumb screws included in the kit Carbon fibre battery brace that i think was included in the previous factory team but this also comes with split foams for fine battery adjustment front and rear New squat rear plate New style rear wishbones New rear drive shafts like the B44 and locking ring for the pin to stay safe New rear towing blocks outer and inner. The rear end is now FULLY adjustable for tow in and also a great combination of outer and inner tow in can be achieved Included is the Proline body and 2 rear wings (taste on this one but look real nice) Anyways, I am sure other items that I have forgotten but i have built the kit and has gone together like a dream. Even to the point of I didn't get the files out to make those little free up jobs. Just perfect and about time a manufacturer has made a kit that goes together easilly and freely and for sure doesn't make one feel that they need to buy anything. Finally, I added up the differences and the value of them. It would cost well over £220 to buy the changes so just buy the kit - Simples!!! :) I know loads are being sold as we speak but I think Marc has some still www.m-k-racing.com Please check with him though I will post some pics later |
Interesting, I've just ordered the V2 clutch and spring from Marc, but did't notice these bits:
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Again what's different about this part, material or shape? Thanks :thumbsup: |
The squat plate just sems to be more refined and has small shaped areas for the wishbones to clear and so on - also feels of different material that I am sure is designed for more grip - saying that unforunately no one has spoke to the states yet and therefore it's only what I have observed thus far
The rear wishones same as above and also fit the B44 - they seem to have extra clearance for the shafts The front blocks have the original holes with additional hole. Oh and there is no need to get different wishbones now as they are in the kit as standard - before people would change to plastic - now included. I can't make a comment on performance of the new clutch as not yet run the car but like I originally said, a great build and all just looks spot on! |
im sure there the sc10 front blocks with the 3rd hole
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Cheers Tony, looking good.
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Tony has been on the valium again.......
Nice advert for your sponsors mate ;) |
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Still at least he didn't start going on about where to buy some brass weight kits for it! :woot: |
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The new parts from AE are about time too and long overdue in my opinion and despite how "marvelous" Tony makes the new car out to be (and I am sure it is) there will no doubt still be many people dissappointed that it is a B4.1 and not a B5 of some sort and evolution rather than revolution..... Brass advert will follow........ :p |
isn't the B4.1 longer too, not by much, but wheelbase longer?
It has taken a lot of parts and design processes from the SC10. |
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oh, I thought I read there was a slight difference in wheelbase.... best I put me glasses on lol!!
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Built mine up last night and have to agree with Tony on this one! 'Ello Maaaaaaaaa!!
Easily the best kit I've built and from an engineering point of view everything just looks and feels so much better. Looking at the B4.1FT against my old B4 and struggling to find any parts that haven't been redesigned and upgraded in some way! (Going to need new spares now...) Shocks feel so much better than previous ones as well as the obvious new cartridge. Beefier front end with more adjustment Loving the design and adjustability of the alu rear hubs. This is a new kit as the devil is in the detail. Evolution of every part should add up to a much better overall package. Very impressed! |
Interesting write up...lI have some questions though
I was told that the new B4.1FT is heavier than the old B4 is that true? I would also like to know if the tuning aftermarket parts fit the new model. More particular do Ghea pistons, bulkheads etc fit the new model? Regards Argi |
Darren?
Is there a problem? If there is then maybe you should give me a call rather than a public worldwide forum - 07876 664422 anytime or pm me or email [email protected] - Im not hard to get hold off ps - Just so you're not confused - you CANNOT get hold of me at CML Distributions or MK Racing - I don't work there |
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I posted a tongue in cheek comment about your write up (advert for AE/MK) Dont go getting your knickers in a twist old boy :p P.S. When is the brass advert coming??? LOL |
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Ghea pistons and bulkheads fit with no problems - mine has them. Also all other aftermarket stuff should fit without any issues at all apart from the RudeBits rear corner weights. The older weights were designed for the older B4 chassis and don't fit - The rear corner weights are being adjusted and will fit both chassis soon! |
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still not a 201 though is it........ :-P
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That's true Lee...it is more equivalent to the 211 that I am sure it will come out soon!!! :p:p:p
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Tony... get a life mate and take a chill pill, I made a tongue in cheek comment and you have jumped about 10 foot in the air, when you come down of that high horse you might see that.... I have no problem with anyone you mention in your post or you, I have no problem at all, I simply said nice ad for your sponsors (and since they all appear in your sig, yes they are all sponsors however you see it) The car is "nice" yes and the post tells us that in length and the cars are avialable from dealers all over the country too Now get over it and go and get some work done or somthing you old fool |
Tony, or any of the other 4.1 owners: Can you clarify on the rear end toe-in for me? Am I right in saying that you can (with kit parts!)
change inboard toe-in by changing suspension blocks but not change wheel-side toe-in (fixed 0.5° setting of the rear hubs) Or did I miss something? |
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the new B4.1 has also got new front axles that don't bend
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In the Kit you get 2.5 - 3.0 - 3.5 - 4.0 in-board and 0.5 outboard Hope this helps |
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well that made my afternoon more fun!! haha
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I know the shock towers carried over the original part numbers from the B4 and that the new slipper parts have different part numbers, but what about all the other bits?
Edit: wishbones seem to be the same part numbers but the chassis plate is different as are the arm mounts/toe in blocks |
it has been a good read!!!:thumbsup:
Nice car there MAAAAA:thumbsup: (not as good as 201xxx obviously!);) |
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Dear oh dear
what are you lot like:lol: Im sure the new b4.1 will be a much better car than the b4......the changes that have been made are suttle but will be a big improvement. I am currently working on a new car, which when finished is going to blow the opposition away......i have taken inspiration on this new project from the tamiya grasshopper.......but....and wait for it.......its going to be called the brasshopper...:p.........hope this crap makes you laugh ....dont take thing to seriously...........and watch out for new 4.1 parts on the Rudebits website (thought i would get that one in).
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Dave - you are one in a million and we love yah!
For those that are waiting in agony (darren) the B4 brass all fits the B4.1 as well BUT since this car is so fantastic we are thinking of making something very special for it - the problem is Associated thought of everything so it's real hard at the mo..... To the questions posted - I am led to belive that everything, sonner or later will filter through as parts but maybe the odd thing just wont. Lee it's the same chassis dude! The one that Tamiya copied he he he :p ps - I guess Darren you won't want my CV for next year then?!!!!! |
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Will we be using any of the new parts on our X6 squared? :woot::thumbsup:
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:cry: lol |
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