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EDS 23-07-2010 01:52 AM

Team Kassanova K2v2
 
K2 V2

Almost a year and half later I am revisiting this project. You can find the first one here.. http://teamkassanova.webs.com/k2page1.htm . I had alot of problems with that version and so its time fore a complete redesign.

My goal is to create a buggy which is more durable , has the lowest center of gravity of any 2wd buggy, and to make it handle as good or better than the other factory buggies. Secondary goals include getting it into a magazine and having it be raced at the Ifmar worlds. (Shooting high)

The rear will be made with a Team Magic E4 drive train and suspension mounts along with custom delrin a-arms and ntc3 rear hub carriers. I will be adding a custom slipper clutch in there too. The reason behind the team associated ntc3 hub carriers is for pure durability. My buggy will probably end up being heavier than the others but it will break less and with the new lipo and brushless technology it shouldn't be a huge deal.

Their is a possiblty the I might start by making a simple version first by just using the stock B4 suspension parts and stand up shocks to see how this electronics layout does. But it hasn't been decided wither I will take smaller steps or just go all out.

The chassis will be made out of carbon fiber and have horizontal saddle packs. I am going to be trying to use screws thru-out the whole buggy with the same hex size so I will only have to use one or two wrenchs on it.

Up front I will be using B4 steering and a Gt2 front chassis plate. I wanted to have my front a-arms be stronger than stock B4 a-arms so I will be making beefier custom delrin a-arms (lower and upper) and ntc3 front hub carriers also for durability.

The buggy will feature laydown shocks all around. I am choosing to use laydown shocks because they provide a lower center of gravity, added durability, and a progressive suspension. My current idea is to use revo shocks on the buggy to provide a smoother suspension on the big jumps because of there larger diameter. They may end up being too long though.. in which case I may have to use touring car shocks.

The receiver and esc will be mounted behind the rear axle in a battery box to provide some weight to the rear and to keep all the electronics down the center. They may also be mounted on each side of the chassis.

I also have a highly top-secret innovation I will be using on this buggy.


Here is a Cad drawing I did just to get an idea of spacing and of how it will look and such. The cad drawing definatly isn't done and I will probably just start making actual progress on the buggy instead of finishing the cad drawing. So far I have alot of B4 parts left over from the K2 v1 and have the Nitro Tc3 hubs and Gt2 front plate..and I got a great deal on the E4 parts so those should be here soon and I can start working on drawing up the chassis.


Ethan

BloodClod 23-07-2010 03:39 AM

Another awesome project. I took a look through your webpage too and out of curiousity, what were the problems you faced with your previous prototype? It did look very good!

Bugle 23-07-2010 04:46 AM

Hey, good luck with this one, I was following the build of your previous car and wondered recently what you were up to now.
You should finish the CAD drawing first, much better testing all the suspension and drivetrain on the computer than half building it and finding it doesn't work, then having to go back and remake new parts because they need changes.

kedal 23-07-2010 03:59 PM

Look awesome !
Good luke !!

EDS 23-07-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodClod (Post 396414)
Another awesome project. I took a look through your webpage too and out of curiousity, what were the problems you faced with your previous prototype? It did look very good!

Well when testing I had alot of different problems with it. Suspension wasn't set-correctly..the geometry made even the stiffest touring car springs feel like mush. Alot of the problems came in the drivetrain.. the rear of the chassis was too flexible creating gear mesh problems and the cvds kept popping out.

Quote:

Hey, good luck with this one, I was following the build of your previous car and wondered recently what you were up to now.
You should finish the CAD drawing first, much better testing all the suspension and drivetrain on the computer than half building it and finding it doesn't work, then having to go back and remake new parts because they need changes.
Well recently I have been working on a Traxxas 1/8th buggy. Found here..http://teamkassanova.webs.com/evo8.htm I also have been moving a quiet abit . But I have finally settled down and found a job to fund my projects.

I have been teaching myself Solidworks and so its been a trial and error type of thing I haven't grasped the advanced skills to draw a complete car and do tests on it..with my Cad skill level I find it more effective personally to get into the workshop and do trial and error by building.


I received the Revo/Slayer shocks today. I got a good deal on them on ebay only $13 shipped for 4 slightly used shocks.

In version 1 I had a hard time setting up the suspension with the touring car shocks. I'm not sure they where up to the task of offroad car.

I picked Revo shocks because of there large diameter (14mm) and spring selection. Traxxas offers springs for the Revo shocks made for the Revo, Slayer , and Jato. The Revo shocks obviously being the stiffest and the Jato ones being the softest. These are a bit heavier than the stock B4 shocks but not too much. If weight becomes an issue I can always get the plastic Jato shocks.

Here are some comparison pictures. On the far right are B4 shocks, middle are the Revo shocks, and the far left are touring car shocks I used on version one. I may resort back to the touring car shocks if the revo shocks are too heavy or big. But I think the added diameter and new spring choices will help a ton.
Front
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...0723001650.jpg
Rear
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...rearshocks.jpg

Razer 24-07-2010 03:36 PM

A good choice of shocks would be the ones from the Yokomo Bmax4, check them out! :)

EDS 24-07-2010 09:45 PM

Hmm I will have to look into those.

Got the E4 parts today. I got an amazing deal for $55 shipped. I just have to get a rear E4 diff for it though. The e4 rear end is going to work great on this. The width of the hinge pins is slightly less than the B4. I was able to fit stock b4 a-arms on but the spur gear would hit the front of the a-arm with out modification so it looks like I will definatly have to make new a-arms. I was worried that I would have to make the wheelbase longer because of the lack of the room for the saddle pack but it looks like their will be plenty of room. I'm going to start drawing up the chassis and then I'll make a mock up chassis before I cut it out of some nice carbon. I feel like I almost need to figure out how to make a slipper clutch for this to get that out of the way though becuase thats one of the major hurdles I have to clear. I'll see what I can master mind.

After getting the E4 aluminum parts I have the feeling this is going to end up a sort of "luxury" buggy .
Here are some pictures..
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...724001512a.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...0724001511.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...724001513a.jpg

kedal 24-07-2010 09:54 PM

The slipper will be a big issue !
Good luke !

EDS 24-07-2010 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kedal (Post 396975)
The slipper will be a big issue !
Good luke !

I just talked to a friend of mine who has a lathe and he said he will make me a custom slipper clutch. That solves that problem. :thumbsup:

Garry Driffill 25-07-2010 03:51 PM

Lots of central weight there should make for good performance, yes? :)

jasonwipf 26-07-2010 07:38 AM

Nice concept. I had thought of something like this with 1/8th E buggies and why no one had ever done it. I hope you or some manufacturer flies with the compact design. Keep it up!:thumbsup:

EDS 02-08-2010 08:50 PM

Garry: Yes I believe that will help with handling.. the only worry is traction. I will be racing on a clay track so hopefully it will hook up

Jason: Yea the compact electronics make sense to me.. it allows for the car to transition quicker.

I made a mock up chassis out of 1/8" lexan today. This material works great as mock up material because its clear and is very easy to work with. Not to mention inexpensive. The final chassis will of course be made out of 3mm Carbon fiber.

Next I will be working on some mock up a-arms out of 3/8" lexan. The final a-arms will be made out of 8mm thick delrin. To give a comparison b4 front a-arms are almost 7mm thick and the rear a-arms are 8mm thick. Oh yes the nimh packs and mamba motor in the pictures are just for mock up reason.. I will be using a lipo saddle pack and a 13.5 motor.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...0802001426.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...0802001432.jpg

EDS 07-08-2010 02:36 AM

Got off work early today so I got some progress made. I made the mock-up front a-arms.. they definatly aren't perfect but they will do as mock ups.
I also got a lexan chassis brace done and the quick release battery door done today. I wanted to try something new.. and eveyone is posting everything on youtube these days so I decided to try a video blog of my progress on the buggy.
Please excuse all the "um's'" haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z76gzu-5Q7s

Here are some pictures:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_1770.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_1771.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_1768.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_1769.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_1773.jpg

Phyro 13-08-2010 05:15 AM

Looking good man, keep it up.
The Evo8 was cool looking as well

EDS 27-11-2010 06:34 AM

With the fear that my last electronic layout would not have enough rear traction I decided to redesign the chassis and turn the lipo saddle sideways like has been seen in some of the other mid-motor buggies. This pushes more of the battery weight towards the rear and will allow me to squeeze the esc and receiver onto the chassis between the batteries and servo. I think that even though this electronic layout will be similar to other mid-motor buggies their will be many other features that will make it unique.

Today I ordered a 3mm carbon fiber chassis from Rcfoam for $55 shipped. While that is in transit I will be working on trying cut another mock chassis out of lexan just to make sure the drawing is correct. I have moved my deadline to end of December/beginning of January. I want to have some time to test and tune the buggy before the big race that it will be debut at in early February.

Here is the new chassis drawing.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2226.jpg

Ethan
Team Kassanova

EDS 03-12-2010 10:25 PM

Today I received my piece of 3mm Carbon fiber for the main chassis and other parts. I got it from Rcfoam for $55 shipped. Since it is so expensive I'm going to have to be very careful not to mess up when I'm cutting the chassis. I will be cutting it with a hand-held jigsaw. The piece is very stiff and light..so definatly a good quality of carbon fiber. Next I'm going to prep the piece for cutting by covering it with painters tape. I have to make a few double checks on the chassis drawing then it will be ready to be taped to the piece of carbon with packaging tape and then the cutting will begin.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2234.jpg

EDS 08-12-2010 01:04 AM

Change of plans..

I will be cutting the chassis out of 3mm aluminum first becuase of my uncertainty with the amount of traction this mid-motor layout will provide. I don't want to cut a chassis out of carbon then find out I have to redesign it and make another chassis. I will be continuing with the planned layout for now.. I will test it and if it doesn't have enough traction I will try moving half of the saddle pack behind the diff in a custom protective case. During the testing I will be comparing the car to my B4 buggy. If the layout of the B4 seems to be performing better I will go back to a traditional layout with a rear-motor but will still have a laydown suspension, strong a-arms, and hubs, 12mm hexs, etc. Once I'm sure that a certain layout will work then I will end up cutting the chassis out of the carbon fiber

I was able to cut and drill the chassis yesterday. I think it turned out pretty good. With some more filing I think it will work nicely for testing.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2236.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2238.jpg

I have been hurrying to get my design for the a-arms finalized so that I can 3d print them at school before Christmas break. I am pretty close.. have a few small changes but this is what they will look like. When they are 3d printed the parts that are thick will actually be skinnier then they look. I had to make them pretty thick in area's becuase ABS plastic isn't the strongest stuff. I might eventually look at getting them milled out of delrin. But I'm hoping these will hold up.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...rmspicture.jpg

j.m. 08-12-2010 03:13 AM

Why not use arms that are already available?

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXYWY8&P=7

EDS 10-12-2010 06:10 AM

J.M: I have looked into useing those a-arms. Unfortunatly they are way too wide at the bulkhead for the B4 bulkhead and the rear E4 a-arm mounts. I was considering finding some bulkheads that would work but there's all kinds of problems that come up with using those a-arms. With making my own a-arms I have a lot of flexibility and can make them work perfectly with my design.

Talked to my Tech ed teacher today about the cnc mill we have at the school. He said it can do plastic and it appears to be 3-axis. They just haven't done alot with it becuase its brand new and they haven't had a ton of time to work with the programs and such.. so their is a possibility that if I can learn how to program the mill I can make milled delrin parts which would be alot stronger then Abs 3d printed parts AND stronger then composite a-arms such as the one's found on the B4. I'll have to look into this possibility more seriously.

I gave my teacher my Solidworks drawing for the rear a-arms and he is going to print one of them early next week so I can make sure it fits.

Today I got a lipo cradle done. The car will have a upper chassis so the battery is going to be slid in thru the side and the upper chassis will hold it down. I'm going to be making a quick release battery door such as the one I made earlier on with my original design.The esc and receiver look like they will fit perfectly right behind the servo. I cut the cradle slightly to large around the edges around the chassis so after I get it bolted to the chassis I will use the aluminum chassis as a guide and cut the over-hang off with the scroll saw for a nice even edge.

I think it will look much nicer when installed on the final Carbon chassis.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2240.jpg

EDS 13-12-2010 10:48 PM

A mock rear a-arm was printed today so see if everything fits. Their are a few small changes I need to make with the spacing and sizes of the holes but for the most part it turned out great. The finish surface isn't the smoothest in some spots but with a slight amount of sanding it became smooth. I'm also think I will make the center section of the a-arm thicker since I don't think its quiet wide enough.

I'm going to get a final drawing done of the rear a-arms and get the front a-arm design ready for printing too. A nice feature about the a-arms are they can be used on either the right or left so I don't have to have as many spares.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2246.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2243.jpg

JonMack 14-12-2010 12:53 PM

That looks absolutely awesome.

EDS 15-12-2010 03:37 AM

Thanks Jonmack

Even though I was supposed to be studying for a math test today I decided to dedicate sometime to the project.

I knew when I started this project that I would have to find some way to put a slipper clutch on this since their is no factory slipper clutch for the E4.. though why would their its an on-road car. Since this is an off-road car it has to have a slipper clutch.

After looking at different factory slipper clutches I realized I would have to design and build my own. I attempted to make one a couple months ago out of a cut up tc3 aluminum center drive shaft. Everything was going good until I had to thread the threaded rod into the aluminum piece. I used a drill to thread the threaded rod in the aluminum but soon realized the hole was too small. The threaded rod ended up breaking off in the aluminum shaft and the hours of filing went to waste

Today I successfully made a slipper clutch out of a aluminum rod I picked up at Home Depot. I spent a few hours "latheing" it down in certain spots by throwing it into the drill press and using a file. I also had to file flat spots in it so the B4 slipper plates would fit.

Overall it came out awesome and this has to be one of the nicest pieces I have ever made. Now I won't have to worry about this project coming to dead end becuase their is no slipper clutch.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2273.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2274.jpg
(I still have to file the motor hole in the chassis)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2278.jpg

EDS 02-01-2011 06:34 AM

The winter break has given me an opportunity to get some pretty substantial progress made. I also received the parts I need for the rest of the build.

I started by building and installing the E4 diff. This required me to cut a hole under the diff so it can sit fully. While I was at it fully mounted the motor mount and filed the motor slot in the chassis. I currently don't have the diff in the buggy so that I can test the suspension (The a-arm doesn't work with the diff atm)

After I got the diff installed and started working on trying to figure out a way to mount the rocker posts for the laydown suspension. I decided on making a custom mount out of 3/8" lexan. With my drill press this was a much easier task then it has been in the past with my hand drill. I measured the angle of the rocker posts on my Evo8 project (Slayer buggy) and matched it. I had to cut a channel in the center of the mount for the belt to go thru.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2298.jpg

After I got that all mounted up I moved on to cutting the upper chassis out of 1/8" aluminum. At this point I took a break and decided to do some electrical work so that I could make the center upper chassis.

My Promatch Saddle battery packs don't have built in bullet connectors but I like how clean bullet connectors are. So I came up with a solution using Dean connections. I will let a picture speak for this modification.
I also used packaging tape to tape the saddles together to make it easier to slide the battery in the buggy.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2289.jpg

After I cut the battery done I was able to cut the center part of the upper deck out of 1/4" lexan. I had to cut slots out of the lexan for the deans to pass thru as the battery slides into place. I then got the shocks mounts made and mounted them. I made it so I can easily adjust the shocks forward and backwards.

Anyway... the pictures explain everything much more clearly. I haven't been able to take all the paper off of the Lexan becuase I still need to cut down the center upper chassis. I think it will look good once all the paper is off.

Remember all the aluminum plate parts will be replaced with Carbon down the road.

On to the pics...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2284.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2292.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2295.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2301.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2304.jpg


Oh and a quick picture of the workshop in its current state haha.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2305.jpg

till 02-01-2011 01:26 PM

wooow, what an awsome idea!! keep on building like that you have cool ideas =)

EDS 06-01-2011 03:15 AM

Thanks man

I have set a deadline for the aluminum proto to done by...
No later January 21st.

till 06-01-2011 10:04 AM

ok, so hury up !!
Whats missing ītill now?? mainly the front end ?? anything more??

kaszal 06-01-2011 12:44 PM

This is really interesting... proper engineering. I'll be following. Good luck.

EDS 08-01-2011 06:46 AM

Till: I'm trying to hurry but between school (finals are coming up) , work (mcdonalds), and my girlfriend its tough. As far as whats left... here is my to-do list..

Straighten out upper deck
Trim chassis braces
Mount front upper deck
Draw/cut/mount front shock mounts
Straighten out upper a-arm mount
Mount rear Turnbuckles
Mount front/rear a-arms
Mount front/rear hub carriers
Make lexan upper a-arms
Mount pushrods
Make custom cvd bones
Mount steering turnbuckles
Make wing mount
Make rear bumper
Install electronics
Trim/make body
Paint body
Mount body
Make diff cover

Basically a lot of small stuff.. most of it shouldn't take too long.
13 days left..


kaszal: Thanks for the comments I will keep you guys updated. I'm hoping to get some work done on it tomorrow after work.

B4power 08-01-2011 02:16 PM

Wow,

this build is incredible!!! It kinda has the same electronic layout as The Team Losi 22.

Can't wait to see the end result!!! What body will go on there?

till 08-01-2011 02:37 PM

ok, sounds like the normal problem: making everyone happy,as best as possible ^^
good luck for school finals, but as we can see in technical subjects you shouldnīt need it =)

nice work !!

rcjunky 08-01-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B4power (Post 450170)
Wow,

this build is incredible!!! It kinda has the same electronic layout as The Team Losi 22.

Can't wait to see the end result!!! What body will go on there?

nothing like the 22, more like the cougar if you wanted to compare it to anything

EDS 09-01-2011 05:09 AM

B4power: Thanks man. I will be narrowing a Jconcepts B4 body to put on it. I was thinking about putting a 22 body on it... but I believe that could be slightly too narrow.

Till: ah this is true. So hard to please everyone AND do what I want.
Thanks.

Rcjunky: I would have to agree. My original electronic layout.. was quiet similar to the 22 though. But, I think that this is quiet different then any other car on the market.



I've been working on the front end recently. I got the chassis stiffeners trimmed and took the paper off of them. I believe with this design their might be a possibility of having adjustable chassis flex.. by adding or taking away vertical posts in between the two vertical plates.

I also got the front upper chassis done. I got a B4 steering rack mounted on it. I was trying to decide between the Gt2 steering rack and B4 steering rack. I decided on the B4 rack because it seems to me that it would create better steering geometry since the width of the buggy will be far less then a Gt2. Also got the rocker posts mounted onto this upper deck.

I also mounted some risers to connect the bulkhead to the upper chassis. They extend past the upper chassis because on top of it will be a bulkhead for the upper a-arms. I have to have upper a-arms because of the pivot ball suspension.
(I obviously have alot of countersinking to do... my favorite..:rolleyes:)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/eds24/IMG_2310.jpg

Next up I will be working on mounting the front shocks and rockers. I got the final Solidworks drawing of the Front and Rear a-arms ready for 3d printing and I should have those either monday or tuesday.

12 days till until aluminum prototype deadline!

till 15-01-2011 01:37 PM

nice front end !!

I count 6 days now and no update ?? hurry up I wanna see more :p

EDS 16-01-2011 07:16 AM

Here's an update for you =p I will be rapidly giving you guys up dates over the next few days.. I will indeed meet the deadline for this stage and test this friday =)

This is my last week to complete the aluminum prototype. That way I will have enough time to get everything tested and finalized before its debut in the second week of February.

I got the printed a-arms from my teacher and they came out nice.. I miss calculated the length.. they of course where to short.. so I lengthened them by adding spacers to the ends which are screwed into the ends of the a-arms. This will put the total width with wheels to about 248mm perfect since legal width is 250mm. With the new a-arms I was able to mount the rear turnbuckles.

Once that was done I moved back to the front. I completed the upper a-arm mount. I made it using some 1/8" lexan.. it will be replaced with carbon after the first few tests. I then was able to mount the front a-arms and custom made some upper a-arms out of 1/4" lexan. Lastly, I installed the steering links and put the rockers on. For the front basically I just have some finishing touches like counter sinking, installing matching hardware, adjusting toe and chamber, and I also need to mount the front shocks.

I think its coming along very well. I believe I will be able to finish this stage of the build by this Thursday and will take it to the track for testing on Friday. I will be looking for mainly wither or not the car has enough traction and if the a-arms are holding up. If it has enough traction I will cut a Carbon chassis for it and also an upper chassis. So far so good. I think once I get the full finished product done with all the carbon it will look great.

5 days left!!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2338.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2343.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2347.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2364.jpg

cooper_xl 18-01-2011 12:26 AM

Looking great. It's awesome you could fit in there...waiting for Friday and/or weekend track test

EDS 19-01-2011 08:29 AM

Thanks

I'm sorry for the late up-date.. Monday my girlfriend wanted to spend some "quality" time together.. soo I had to leave my project for awhile. Yesterday was a frustrating day.. I spent about 5 hours working on what turned out to be the hardest parts to make of the whole project...custom cvd bones.

From the last version of this buggy I learned that I could make custom length cvd bones by cutting the drive shaft in half then "fusing" the two halfs together with a lexan tube. With this version custom cvd bones where mandatory because the E4 diff requires E4 cvd ends.. and the axles I'm using require standard Associated cvd ends.

I started by cutting the E4 cva's and the Associated Cvd's to correct lengths. That wasn't too hard. I was thinking oh sweet this is going well..
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...IMG_2373-2.jpg

Everything was going good until I came to what proved to be the tough part.. I cut a rectangle out of 1/4" lexan about an inch long and then attempted to drill a straight hole all the way thru it. This proved to be difficult even for my drill press :weird: After probaly 5 or 7 or 10! attempts this way I decided I should try 3/8" lexan. I ditched the drill press and used a hand drill. After a couple attempts I was able to get it right. I then used a vise to quickly press each end of the cvd bone into each end. The hole in the plastic is smaller then the cvd ends.. this makes it so when you force the cvd end into the hole... (Get your head out of the gutter!) :ha: The plastic heats up and then bonds to the metal.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...IMG_2377-2.jpg

And the finished product.... (I will probably file them a bit more) They aren't pretty and aren't perfect but I'm 99% sure they will work great.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...IMG_2397-2.jpg


Some other small things I got done is a transponder mount and a dirt cover for the diff. I think the weight of the club transponder could help with traction. Hey.. every gram counts. The dirt cover isn't pretty but I think it should help keep some of the dirt out. And it will be hidden for the most part.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...IMG_2390-2.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...IMG_2380-2.jpg


Yesterday was a pretty tough day in the workshop.. but I got the hard stuff out of the way. The workshop is quiet abit of mess.. sorta is a representation of how the day went.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...IMG_2416-1.jpg

Because of my set-backs.. I'm not sure I will get to test on friday but I will meet my deadline of friday. Testing might have to wait till Sunday.
Time for bed.

EDS 23-01-2011 06:51 AM

So guys I got the aluminum proto-version of this buggy done tonight. Remeber.. this prototype is just for testing and tuning. After initial testing and tuning I will be making a Carbon chassis and doing a lot of nice finishing touches to it to make it look really good.

I have it all wired up and ready to go.. actually tonight I took it outside and ran it down the street and checked out how the traction was and how the steering and suspension was working. Everything is working pretty good for the first drive. The suspension is a bit stiff and needs some tuning but thats pretty easy to take care of. The turning and steering work great. I feel like it actually handles well. Traction on asphalt was great but we will have to see how it does on clay. What I'm really happy about is the Slipper clutch and the transmission. Everything with that is working great and it is very quiet. My custom cvds have held up so far.

I'm very excited to take it to the track for the first time. I won't get much time but what I will be looking for mainly is wiether or not it has enough traction and also the durability of the a-arms. I will also be taking notes about the suspension, steering, and over all handling.

Any way here are some pics.. sorry no on-body pictures until I' done with the final prototype :p

Oh and yes I am aware that I need to adjust the Chamber on the back. and that I also need to lower the wing. Its way too high.. for some reason I have the hardest time with wings on my projects.. stupid buggies

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2418.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/...4/IMG_2427.jpg
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I will update you guys tomorrow night with out the track testing goes =)

cooper_xl 23-01-2011 09:58 AM

It's going well, for the looks of it...You need a lathe to make straight holes without fuss

till 23-01-2011 11:20 AM

Itīs an awsome car !!!! Very very nice work!
What about an application to Team Asso or Team Losi as an Constructor :P

Keep on going like that and stay hat creative!!

cheers

EDS 24-01-2011 01:01 AM

I wish I had a lathe.. that would make things alot easier

Till: thanks haha I actually am going to college for Mechanical Engineering and do plan on applying for a mechanical engineering job at Losi and Associated down the road.


Unfortunately, today was not such a good day at the track.. within the first minute or two a front a-arm broke. I accidently ran into a pipe and I didn't feel like it hit it very hard at all. But the a-arm broke around the hinge pin hole so these 3d printed a-arms are definatly not strong enough to be used.

I put another a-arm on but the same thing happened just as quickly. http://www.rctech.net/forum/classic_...lies/frown.gif

It was hard to tell how the traction was but it seemed to have quiet abit. Everything else I wasn't really able to test becuase I only got to drive it for a couple minutes.

So it was a waste of time.. but its definatly better to work out these things now then race day.

However I did weigh it at the track...ready to run it weighed in at 1805 grams. So about 300grams heavier then the minimum. This is definatly something I'm going to be wanting to lower. I think a carbon chassis will help.

What now? well I have to figure out a way to make new a-arms out of a stronger material. I'm thinking about making "hybrid" a-arms by cutting up B4 a-arms and bolting them to 3/8" lexan pieces that determine the length and hold the pivot balls. The other option is to attempt to cut them out of 3/8" lexan or delrin. Making a-arms is pretty hard to do accurately.. perhaps I will find some place to mill them out of delrin...
I'm not sure.. but what I do know is that time is ticking and I need to get this thing back out on the track.


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