Wich 2WD to get??
 

Hi,

I was wondering which 2WD is the one to get now? Is the B4 still the best 2WD buggy or is it getting old????

I searched a bit and these are the 2 that I found to be interesting? Or am I missing something

Kyosho RB5
Associated B4 (Stealth version or Factory??) Wich on is best?

Thanks for the input

The B4 is still the best car in the world nothing can relaly touch it. I have ran one for the past 1 1/2 years i havent been disapointed with it once. High quality car good parts and defently fast. As for te team/ factory tea edition I recomend getting a factory team and replacing the carbon chassis with a plastic chassis. Some drivers like to run a full plastic parts car others like to run full carbin some a bit of both.

There are other cars on the market that you should consider

x6
losi xxxcr
kyosho rb5

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B4 factory team any day, since i upgraded from the B4 RTR i noticed a huge difference in the carbon parts/chassis and love the responsivness now. i just put tape down the battery compartment so it wouldnt short the cells, also so the cells were still bare so i can still use an equalising tray :D

Your both wrong, sorry. ;)

B4 team with upgraded ti turnbuckles, front alloy hinge pin brace, thumb screws for cells. There is prob more but i can't think of them at the moment, thats what a lot of the top boys use though.

Yeah he's right....

Team Car with the following

6497 Spring Blue Front
1779 FT Servo mount blue alum
1406 FT blue turnbuckles 51mm ti (x3)
1780 FT Blue alum shock bushings
6943 8-32 Alum Locknut Blue
1770 B4/T4 milled Motor Plate Blue
9606 FT .89 Hard Anodized Threaded Shock Kit
6588 Black Grease
9665 FT Hinge Pin Brace V2
9608B B4 rear axle wheel spacer blue
1787 Battery strap thumbscrews
6478 Rear Racing Spring Silver
1585 FT B4 Alum Trailing Axle
9657 B4/T4 Heavy Duty Servo saver spring
1105 Green Slime
9607 1.18 Hard Anodized Threaded shock kit
9610B Blue Servo saver bolt for B4/T4
1777 Blue Alum Shock ball end w/eyelets



:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

How am i wrong???? Its all personal opinion im just trying to save te guy some money. I currently run a fll plastic car with the list that sleigh jus listed ecet for the alloy shock bushings.

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WHAT DO YOU KNOW !!!!! YOUR A LOSI DRIVER !!! LOL :D :D :D ;)

Work out the prices for the FT with a new chassis and team kit with the upgrades ;)
Plus extra plastic on the car makes it's easier to drive.

Or, if you like a B4 - get the standard Team car with no upgrades and just race it - none of the stuff mentioned makes the car any better on the track afaik. :) Even the alloy front brace isn't so important as it once was now the plastic one is beefed up. Or am I talking bollocks.

You NEED the HD servo saver spring unless you glue the saver up, i would definately get the brace too, it looks nice :) To be honist the rest is just bling bits, but the threaded shocks are useful. O and ti turnbuckles.

Thats a very expensive way of doing it!

It's much easier to just get the FT car in the first place and buy a plastic chassis if you want it to be more random :rolleyes: :D

Thats better:D :D

Is anyone still running the losi next year im not sure if i will with my new 4wd on the way.

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I thought your XX4 was the bestest car ever Ash :confused:

But you'd still need to get the plastic arms and towers etc....

What do I know I'm a LOSI driver

I already have a full bling TRF501X (I love the blue bits! :cool: )but wanted a bit info for a top 2WD because maybe I will drive both classes next year.

Thanks

In my experience the arms and towers dont really change the car too much, the plastic ones make the car bounce on big landings like the big double at Batley though.

The S2 will be worth a look when it's been fully developed :)

It is a very good car but if losi are stop supporting it i want a new 4wd so the b44 is an AE so it must be ace.

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Well they will give you AE stickers in the box but we know who designed it :p ;)

Yea its a bj4 but with all the crap stuff fixed. And no bloody alloy that bends.

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I don't think this is an argument you really want to get into Ash...

The BJ4 is a bloody good car and AE have just put their slant on it, to improve the profitability of the product and improve the odd few item (like the slipper)

Besides DELANOBE was asking about 2WD's and probably not interested in your opinion (or ours for that matter) on 4WD's

Yea sorry DELANOBE.

I wasnt arguing.I dont argue with people.

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losi are going to continue supporting the xx4!

Is that fact? How easy (and what cost?) are shock towers to get these days?

fact!, shock towers readily available depends where you buy to what price!
even when losi first discontinued the xx4 years back parts were still available right up until they relaunched it, ive been running 1 ever since i started racing just over 4 years ago and never had problem sourcing spare's, there were times a small delay occured but never had situation were i couldnt get what i needed

It will be interesting to see how many XX4's there are left by the Oswestry National next year (if we run one). I did a count of the cars there this year and the split was

Losi xx: 55 (46.2%)
Jconcepts BJ4: 22 (18.5%)
Yokomo MR4-BX: 11 (9.2%)
S4: 10 (8.4%)
Predator: 6 (5.0%)
Kyosho Lazer: 5 (4.2%)
X-Factory X5: 4 (3.4%)
Hotbodies D4: 3 (2.5%)
Tamiya 501x: 2 (1.7%)
Aero: 1 (0.8%)

The B44 is bound to eat into that number drastically in 2008, especially if a number of the top drivers move to a different car.. there will be a domino effect which can quickly turn into a torrent once a critical mass (or lack of) is reached.

I would run a B44 next year but I have decided to stay with the Yoke now I have it

The argument about which is the best car, who knows, if Cragg, Mossy, Phil, etc all ran Ultima RB5's then that would be the 'best' car I am sure. The driver makes so much of a difference, After all, we are all running practically the same machine now. I for one now know that its my thumbs that keep me in the L final at nationals, not the size of my wallet :(

digressed into 4wd!

Back on topic.
I bought an RB5 earlier this year and imediately made the next regional A final. The car is really stable at the back, more so than my B4, but it also has plenty of steering.
It is almost a B4 clone, but with a few additional features like the adjustable front kick up built in.
It handles aggresively like a B4, but has the rear stability of the Losi.

also the kit is dirt cheap, just over £150. Spares are also peanuts.

Good call on the thumbs bit neil!! I haven't had a 2wd car for god knows how long(didn't like racing them). Recently bought a b4 factory team and plastic chassis, superb car. Not alot else to say really other than its easy to drive, very stable and if need be the parts are readily available to borrow or buy. The Kyosho looks nice, most probably goes well, but the b4 has a proven history and i wasn't sure how well the kyosho would be backed in the uk.
Hope this helps;)

Delanobe,

I understand you're from Belgium, The Losi XXX CR isn't a bad choice. Contrary to our UK friends, Losi support is a LOT better over here compared to AE (coming from TTiger Germany while Losi is imported by MCM in Brussels).

And our national champion drives a Losi, so it certainly works on our tracks.

personally I like the xxxcr and will definatly be driving it again next year. I have had ago with the RB5 which was a nice car but couldn't really see the difference as was up at cov on the wet astro with an 8x2 bolted it :p It's going to come down to your personal choice. If you can have a go with either the losi or ae then you can see which car suits your driving style.

For me Losi all the way :cool:

It depends what attracts you to a car really, if it's purely down to results then the B4 is probably the choice car with more World, Euro and National titles then its rivals, but that's not all that matters.....

Go to your local club and see who's doing well with what car, and if they're helpful, as the main thing is being comfortable with the car. If you're the only one running a car you may struggle for parts if you break something on race day, or can't get it set-up properly at least if there are others running the car you should be able to get help.

I personally think the B4 has to be the cream of the crop, it's by no means new but the Losi has been around in slight variations (XXX) since 1999 so it's getting on now if that matters to you at all? The B4 just seems to work, but as everyone says it's down to the driver at the end of the day and personal preference.

who designed it then rich???

Jimmy?! :confused:

:)

Elvis actually........................

the king!

Its a hell of a lot cheaper to buy the FT where you get most of that stuff then buy the plastic bits, a FT is only £165 now.

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Cant be elvis as he works in are local chippy