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daz 03-04-2006 04:40 PM

ZX5 setup questions
 
//please can you ask your setup questions here thanks//



cheers for the set up, mines not to far off that might have to pop and see u for a bit of advice at kiddy dude.

JCJC 04-04-2006 07:16 PM

Indoors on Carpet
 
Any definitive tips for indoors on carpet.........seems a waste indoors I know and expect to be outside with the Stotfold setup soon, but what should I adjust (I have yellow minipins in the box) for flat track with a couple of jumps.

niggs98 05-04-2006 10:16 AM

setup questions
 
hi
please can you ask your setup questions here thanks,

jimmy 05-04-2006 10:22 AM

CVD's!

Is it true they will square the car up under power ? do you run the cvd's all the time anyway? apart from scouring the track for the dogbone when breaking a hub is there really that much of an effect on performance with the rear cvd's ?

niggs98 05-04-2006 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy
CVD's!

Is it true they will square the car up under power ? do you run the cvd's all the time anyway? apart from scouring the track for the dogbone when breaking a hub is there really that much of an effect on performance with the rear cvd's ?


dont know as to squaring the car up as have never tested the 2 back to back for that situation but the car does seem smoother on the track with the cvd's so i do run them all the time

niggs98 05-04-2006 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCJC
Any definitive tips for indoors on carpet.........seems a waste indoors I know and expect to be outside with the Stotfold setup soon, but what should I adjust (I have yellow minipins in the box) for flat track with a couple of jumps.

to be honest id just go with the stotfold set up as its for dry astro with jumps and you will see that the car sits very low anyway and the stotfold set up is good with bb minipins in green and yellow minis dont seem to grip any more than those so give it a go and stiffen it up with a 1.6 roll bar on the back if required

niggs98 05-04-2006 12:08 PM

can anyone with questions as to set ups please post in the questions section so we can save this thread for just set ups. if jimmy can move the last few posts to the set up questions section and make that a sticky as well it would be awsome

cheers m8

jimmy 05-04-2006 12:27 PM

There we go, I can't re-order yours to the top, it seems nathan, but hopefully this doesnt look too messy! :)

niggs98 05-04-2006 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy
There we go, I can't re-order yours to the top, it seems nathan, but hopefully this doesnt look too messy! :)

that will be fine jim, thanks for the help m8 ;)

stefke 14-04-2006 08:42 AM

@ niggs98 :

I have a race on astro in 2 weeks and I'm going to use your Stotfold setup and start from there (thanks for that).

I have a few little questions though :
  • You once posted your stotfold setup in a thread here, and it mentioned yellow springs at the front. On your setup sheet in the sticky, you mention orange springs at front. :confused:
  • On the setup sheet, you state you used no spring preload at the front. But this way, the front ride height is a lot less then the rear. With your setup, the car lies very low indeed. Didn't it bottom out on jumps and bumps?
  • Will the setup work with Schum yellow minipins (the controll tyre over here).

niggs98 14-04-2006 09:37 AM

hi
the front shock springs are the yellow orange number 60,
the front ride height was that low to take away some front end grip as the astro was very dry and had loads off grip,
the setup should work with yellows we used greens,
the ride height probbaly will need to be played with to tune it to your track but shouldnt be a million miles away,

stefke 14-04-2006 09:43 AM

Thanks mate ! :thumrigh:

I don't know if you're going to the Belgian GP this year at Kampenhout (a lot of brits come over every year), but if you're interested, I can test this setup at that track. It was changed a fair bit over the winter this year.

niggs98 14-04-2006 03:18 PM

funnily enough nathan and myself(stu)will be coming over to the belgium gp this year,whats the tyre wear like on yellow minipins,

stefke 15-04-2006 07:21 PM

When it is really dry, about 3 heats per set. You can use them longer, but they loose that little edge that can make a difference. Schum yellow mini spikes work too, but I find minipins a bit more progressive and predictable there. Plus it is one of the controll tyre for our nationals.

I hope I see you at the GP. By the time I wanted to inscibe in january, it was already fully booked so I won't be driving. :( And being a member of the local club doesn't help. It seems off road is on the move again. They never had the GP fully booked so early.

SimonW 02-05-2006 06:45 PM

Has anybody tried less front kick-up yet, i have and it was loads better, really ripped into the corner and seemed to come out better too, maybe cos the front isn't getting pushed up so much under acceleration by the arms, whatever it is it's much better(used 3 nub shim under 'D' block), min' kick-up is 4 nub shim unless you leave the centre screw out

nick oliver 02-05-2006 08:02 PM

I have found 3 is best allround too.. even tho i dont know what it does much lol:p

stefke 12-06-2006 09:08 AM

For whom it might concern, the Stotfold setup works fine for me at the Kampenhout track (Belgium). So for all of you coming to the EFRA race you can use it as a base setup.

I found it very agressive but I like it that way. I was using Schum minipins (yellow) front and rear with the outer and inner two rows cut. What I changed in comparison to the Stotfold setup : I went for 45 oil in the front and one type of spring harder, 1,4mm rear stabilizer instead of 1,6mm and a slight reduction in rideheight (about 3mm)

jim76 26-06-2006 02:33 PM

Hi all
i recently aquired a fully modded ZX5 and am in the middle of preparing it for a regioanl this weekend.

I've been advised to run a front diff with a centre one way on the driveshaft. I thought the centre one way was an option part, but a brief conversation with a model shop and the guy thinks it's the same bearing as the front one-way diff, you just swap it into the centre driveshaft. Does anyone know if this is correct, it's just the Kyosho manual is a little less informative than i'm used to!

thanks
James

jimmy 26-06-2006 02:42 PM

yes mate.. The car comes with two one way bearings, the diff one way uses both. the Centre one way uses just the one. The best option is just to buy another bearing so you can use both easily without so much messing about.

So if they are in the diff one way you'll have to pull one out - not sure how easy that is as its been a while since I looked.

jim76 26-06-2006 03:59 PM

cool, cheers Jimmy.

notlawnomis 04-08-2006 10:01 AM

With the Interclub coming up at Batley next month wondered if anyone had a good setup they'd be willing to share!!

Looks like NERCR will be able to put at least one team together!!

niggs98 05-08-2006 06:39 PM

i have sent a set up to jimmy for what i ended up on at the batley national so euros allowing it will be up soon or pm me a email addy and i shall forward you a set up sheet for the track.

Thanks

Nathan
Quote:

Originally Posted by notlawnomis
With the Interclub coming up at Batley next month wondered if anyone had a good setup they'd be willing to share!!

Looks like NERCR will be able to put at least one team together!!


notlawnomis 05-08-2006 07:48 PM

Cheers Nathan and Jimmy for getting it posted so quickly

Simon

KyoshoK 06-08-2006 11:50 PM

anyone here got a general setup for dusty dirt tracks?? i'm looking for something from mark pavidas but cant find any

niggs98 07-08-2006 04:12 PM

if you go to 4wdrc.com there is a kyosho section there and pavidas's setup from the cactus classic is in there somewhere

wolli 18-08-2006 06:05 PM

Setup from the Euro in Vienna
 
Does anybody know the best Setup from the European Championship in Vienna at the RMC-Track?

niggs98 22-08-2006 07:55 PM

having just done the euros last week i shall be posting a setup soon for the vienna track

KyoshoK 29-08-2006 10:55 PM

hi guys. just building my first zx-5.

the manual says put spacer in the front of each of the bulkhead (under D plate for the front and BR plate)

but it doesnt say anything about putting a spacer under the rear toe plate (A30), and also behind the front bulkhead (under C plate)

do you put spacers there? coz i seen some setup sheets it specifies to but plates there.

thanks

andreasH 01-09-2006 05:27 PM

Hello all,
I have my Lazer since a couple of weeks. Watching the Lazer category in this forum I found many ideas and good hints.

I just tried setting up my ZX5 like the Batley sheet.
Some general questions for the setup sheets figured out here:
(Maybe because I could not interpret the english name for the parts in the right way)

- Front and rear suspension 'Upper Spacer': Is it an optional part or is it in the kit?
Where to find, which itemnumber?

- Axle Hight Spacer: What is meant by UP or LOW? Is the UP position with the spacer on the bootom?

- Hub Carrier back: How to set up the hub carrier to 2°? Is it an option part or just put the screw to another hole?

- long wheel base on rear hub: What to do here?

Is there an general description for the setup sheet and for the effects using option parts?

Please help me a little here.

thanks
Andreas

KyoshoK 05-09-2006 08:06 AM

thanks to jimmy for his review and suggesting to use short camber links front and rear. it made the buggy so much easier to driver and less twitchy.

this always went against what i thought those links was supposed to do.

i always thought a longer links gave more stability, and better for loose tracks.

andreasH 27-10-2006 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreasH (Post 10156)
- Front and rear suspension 'Upper Spacer': Is it an optional part or is it in the kit?
Where to find, which itemnumber?

- Axle Hight Spacer: What is meant by UP or LOW? Is the UP position with the spacer on the bootom?

- long wheel base on rear hub: What to do here?

Still looking for answeres to my last post.
I need a working setup for very low traction.
Someone who can help me here?

sosidge 28-10-2006 11:32 AM

Well, I have run the car on slippy gym floors a couple of times (pretty low traction), and found that basically the kit setup minus rear anti-roll bar, with a diff up front, centre one-way (locked if the track is REALLY slippy) worked just fine, maybe a slight lack of steering on-power.

Pretty basic I know but it might be a starting point.

andreasH 28-10-2006 04:49 PM

Thanks. I run the front diff and center locked. Steering could be better.
The car of a friend has the KMC conversion and runs much better here.
The track is clay/loam and is absolut glibbery.
I run Proline Hole Shot, which tires would be good here?
So I will test without the anti-roll bar. Would an anti-roll bar in front be good here?

sosidge 28-10-2006 05:23 PM

No harm in trying a front anti-roll bar, however it is more likely to reduce steering than create it. Personally speaking I don't really like anti-roll bars as they make the car a bit fidgety over the bumps.

All you can do is try these things!

bert digler 28-10-2006 05:57 PM

losi springs
 
i run losi silver front springs and pink rear spring the car was loads better this on wet astro so it was slippy like clay and it jumped a load betteri n fact u could push it thats a first for a lazer also run 50 wt oil in the front with big pistons

andreasH 28-10-2006 09:22 PM

I will try some changes tomorrow on our last clubrace.

andreasH 31-10-2006 02:32 PM

The weather was very bad this weekend so our race was canceled.:(
The Buggy season is over for this year, now we go for indoor onroad.
The club is doing an modification of the track in the next weeks.
Hopefully they change the road surface to get more grip otherwise
i have to work very hard on an working setup next season.
(now waiting for christmas to get some new parts, maybe the conversion kit)

niggs98 06-07-2007 10:55 AM

upper spacers are just a standard 1mm thick washer so 2 of those to raise the ball stud to stiffen it up the roll a little

up position is with the washer below the front hub

2 dgree hubs are an option part (sorry dont know the number)

long wheel base on the hub is to put all the hub spacer washers in front of the hub to push it backwards as far as possible

hope this helps. sorry for the delay in answering your questions but i dont get the chance to look on here very often ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreasH (Post 10156)
Hello all,
I have my Lazer since a couple of weeks. Watching the Lazer category in this forum I found many ideas and good hints.

I just tried setting up my ZX5 like the Batley sheet.
Some general questions for the setup sheets figured out here:
(Maybe because I could not interpret the english name for the parts in the right way)

- Front and rear suspension 'Upper Spacer': Is it an optional part or is it in the kit?
Where to find, which itemnumber?

- Axle Hight Spacer: What is meant by UP or LOW? Is the UP position with the spacer on the bootom?

- Hub Carrier back: How to set up the hub carrier to 2°? Is it an option part or just put the screw to another hole?

- long wheel base on rear hub: What to do here?

Is there an general description for the setup sheet and for the effects using option parts?

Please help me a little here.

thanks
Andreas


Southwell 06-07-2007 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niggs98 (Post 48416)
hope this helps. sorry for the delay in answering your questions but i dont get the chance to look on here very often ;)

9 months delay? :D

niggs98 06-07-2007 12:39 PM

but still answered :S :) :S


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