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Chinch 10-05-2010 11:04 AM

First Car
 
Hello everyone. I was just wondering does anyone have any ideas for a cheap but good first RC.


Thanks :)

ian h 10-05-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chinch (Post 375453)
Hello everyone. I was just wondering does anyone have any ideas for a cheap but good first RC.


Thanks :)

Associated B4.1 rtr brushless. One at our track yesterday it was very good.

Aran 10-05-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ian h (Post 375456)
Associated B4.1 rtr brushless. One at our track yesterday it was very good.

if you need everything then definitely go for the B4.1 rtr brushless!

the B4 is the ideal starter car if you ask me :D

rocketrob 10-05-2010 01:34 PM

other than the "let your budget be your guide" - read around the forum and become better versed on specific vehicles you might be interested in and what you plan to do (backyard bash or race, onroad or offroad) so as to not ask such generalized and vague questions ;) and it will allow others to give better qualified advice when they know what you're looking at getting into :D

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson 10-05-2010 05:34 PM

He is looking at racing 10th off road 4WD. I would say he was looking around £400-500ish max budget to get complete race ready.

petti7676 10-05-2010 09:06 PM

if your looking for 4wd you might be able to get a second hand b44 for that money have a look in the 4 sale section

paulc 10-05-2010 09:18 PM

buy a durango dex410 r when they come out and get some second hand electrics

coolcars782 10-05-2010 09:36 PM

Well if it's first car you will only be racing it at club level. And if it's a 4wd car your after have a look at the new lrp buggy. It seems really good for the money considering you can get one for £140 rtr.

Carl

Chinch 11-05-2010 02:24 PM

Right ok I know I didn't put it clear to start with... Im looking to buy everything eg car motor radio gear, all for £500-£600. Im thinking HPI as my cousin has one and i think it is very good. I will be racing 10th off road 4WD :) Thanks

Col 11-05-2010 03:10 PM

Personally I think that if you're racing (rather than bashing) then avoid HPI. Go for something that there are a substantial number of at the track already, that way there is no shortage of advice on set-up and spares to beg/borrow.
Can't go wrong with a B44, maybe a B-max, maybe even D4 or laser zx5.

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson 11-05-2010 03:43 PM

yeah i agree, when i brake things on my Cyber 10b i have to 'Modify' :woot: like butchering a rear shock tower to fit on the front :blush:

Chinch 11-05-2010 03:45 PM

Oh yeah that was funny dont forget your front shock (well back one on front) is cracked :D

Whiskers 11-05-2010 03:45 PM

Definatley stay away from HPI. I have one of their cars and am still waiting for parts for it that i ordered about 8 weeks ago. :mad:

How about the Schumacher cat SX2?

Chinch 11-05-2010 03:52 PM

yeah I have been thinking the B44 after i just looked it up but my 500-600 pound budget has just rose to a £931 buget lol

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson 11-05-2010 03:57 PM

For someone that's not touched an R/C car though, isn't the cat a little weak?

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson 11-05-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chinch (Post 375977)
yeah I have been thinking the B44 after i just looked it up but my 500-600 pound budget has just rose to a £931 buget lol




Welcome to the wonderfull world of R/C Racing! :thumbsup:

bigred5765 11-05-2010 04:08 PM

i wouldn't say there a weak car at all they are quite strong

Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson 11-05-2010 04:23 PM

http://www.team-durango.com/race-cars/dex410r/

rocketrob 11-05-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chinch (Post 375977)
yeah I have been thinking the B44 after i just looked it up but my 500-600 pound budget has just rose to a £931 buget lol

there is another thread on this forum that shows a relative comparison of today's prices versus late-1980s pricing, and keeping that (and inflation) in mind it doesn't seem that far off what's reasonable or to be expected

Chinch 11-05-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson (Post 375983)
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Welcome to the wonderfull world of R/C Racing! :thumbsup:

Yeah i think i wont be getting it all on my b-day lol some at b-day some at christmas lol

bigred5765 11-05-2010 05:34 PM

the cougar s1 will be a good value car when its released

Col 11-05-2010 07:17 PM

Second hand B44 - £160
Brand new Core RC 2.4ghz - £54.99
Second hand losi excelleron esc and motor - £80
Second hand KO 2123 servo - £40
Second hand lipo - £40
Second hand lipo charger and balancer - £60

Total - £434.99

Some of that I own and can recomend, some I don't but that's most of what you need to race compete at any level.

slow bob 11-05-2010 07:23 PM

you are forgeting a few bits

ptx £50 to £70
tools ?
shock oils
tyres

Col 11-05-2010 07:26 PM

ptx?

slow bob 11-05-2010 07:31 PM

some places you race will need you to have a ptx transponder
this is put in the car to time your laps

some clubs will have transponders you can use but they are bulky

have a look for a second hand AMB PTX or MRT PTX

Col 11-05-2010 07:34 PM

it was the x that caught me out. We just call them pt's.

From what I know of the clubs around Sheffield (certainly in the N/E and the 2 big clubs in the N/W) they all have their own club transponders.

slow bob 11-05-2010 07:38 PM

cool i havent raced up there but just thought its one of those things
that are over looked cost wise when first setting up ...:)

and yeah pt,s dose make more sence i dont know when i started calling them a ptx :confused:

Chinch 15-05-2010 10:53 PM

Thanks for all the help guys but I think im going to go with the Associated B44 :)
Thanks again to everyone who replyed :)

emtee 15-05-2010 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slow bob (Post 376128)

and yeah pt,s dose make more sence i dont know when i started calling them a ptx :confused:

It'a bit of a hangover from the days of yore... a TX was/is a transmitter in radio-ham speak... ergo: PTX= Personal Transmitter...

Man, I know so much sh!t I worry myself... :(

cheapo 16-05-2010 08:09 AM

Well, hi from an old racer/new poster to a new racer.
My advice is different from everyone else. :thumbsup:
I say 2WD is the best way to start if you are serious about racing. It will make you a better driver eventually because it ain't so easy. ;)
I started back in '85 without ever going to a club, and,ok it wasn't the best car around that I chose, being an almost entirely plastic 'Wild One' from Tamyia.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ff/WildOne.jpg

But, DAMN, it looks so good!
After almost 12 months I had broken it sufficiently to make me realize that i NEEDED to spend more money.
I went to 4x4 and didn't buy another 2WD for 5 years. :D
But you'll have more fun sooner if you go 4x4, and you've obviously had a go with yer buddy's car.

Hey, if I want to live up to my name, there's a B44 going on ebay. Nowt to do with myself as I live in Devon, but it's exactly what I would go for. An empty car, that will allow me to buy some secondhand batteries and electronics from other club members and save a packet over the new price. Alternatively, they're obviously available new online, or at your local shop.

I love Associated and Schumacher equally, they are both top quality. I also love the X-RAY chassis, which is insane quality engineering and very expensive.
The only other thing I can say is, try and install some sort of bumper, like we all had back in the 80' !! I have no idea why people stopped using them. it will protect your front suspension arms/steering while you are crashing the hell out of your first car! ;) ;) T-Bone R/C Racing

Best of luck buddy, and have fun. You will! :D:D:D

Cheapo.

T4miy4 Guy 16-05-2010 08:51 AM

Do NOT buy a second hand losi xcelorin system.

Andy

Col 16-05-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by T4miy4 Guy (Post 377448)
Do NOT buy a second hand losi xcelorin system.

Andy

My second hand one has been faultless for nearly 2 years.
But to be fair to Andy, he's right - it's just too much of a risk with them.

ianhaye 16-05-2010 11:12 AM

i havent run a b44 but i do race the b4 and love it so can ony guess is same build quailty so should be a good car, as for lipos check out hobbyking if u dont mind a 2-3 week wait from hk, they can offer some good spec batterys for a lot less price that here in the uk, dont be put of by peps saying stay away from hk lipos, the flighmax and turnigy lipos have been proven to be good reliable batteies, i also run these :-) you can pick up a 5200 30c for about 15quid, as for brushless combo, i would rekomend the castle esc, the mamba max pro is there newest esc witch is sensored and can run sensorless and dual mode to, very simlair to the tekin rs pros with the setup adjustablity with timing etc.

Steve.T 16-05-2010 12:24 PM

When it comes to the electrics go lrp.
Have used the sphere since 2007 and never had an issue

rocketrob 16-05-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by T4miy4 Guy (Post 377448)
Do NOT buy a second hand losi xcelorin system.

don't buy 2nd hand BL systems (OR lipos), period ;)

ianhaye 16-05-2010 01:09 PM

i spent 115 on a new lrp esc and just spend 125 on the new mamba max pro, and i can say the mamba is ten times better, the lrp was crap and had limited adjustablitly in that prce range i highly rekomend the mamba has no problems keeping up with the tekins, and everyone ha them in stock unlike the tekins, the mamba is defo worth having a look

Steve.T 16-05-2010 02:03 PM

I bought the touring car spec sphere and had no issues with adjustability but the point here is for our new racer and realiability.
On that front I think both will do the job.

Chinch 16-05-2010 05:29 PM

Thankyou everyone but I bought a Team Associated B44 factory team ready to run today. Really goo offer and thankyou everyone for the advise


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