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rcracer 15-07-2007 11:49 AM

501x ball cup problem
 
anyone recomend a good set of quality ball cup ends for the turnbuckles as the standard ones cost me time during the racing last night when they popped off 3 times :mad: and a link to a good supplier please

footey 15-07-2007 12:15 PM

neil i no serpent do good ones

rcracer 15-07-2007 12:19 PM

yeah i know just thought there mite be another alternative as cant seem to find serpent ones

xx4-nutter 15-07-2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footey (Post 49979)
neil i no serpent do good ones



kirky said bout em didnt he :D

jarkkom 15-07-2007 01:32 PM

Have you tried the new Tamiya ones?

51283 5mm Heavy Duty Adjuster - 8pcs

rcracer 15-07-2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarkkom (Post 49983)
Have you tried the new Tamiya ones?

51283 5mm Heavy Duty Adjuster - 8pcs

whos selling them m8 :confused: are they from tamiya site

jarkkom 15-07-2007 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracer (Post 49984)
whos selling them m8 :confused: are they from tamiya site

Try http://www.racingfactory.fi/shop2/ca...ails.php?p=850

btw if the Kyosho cups fit they'd be the best I think..

jimmy 15-07-2007 09:48 PM

I've got the Serpent ones on my 501X right now. With the kit turnbuckles though there isn't a heck of a lot of rod in the rod end. I might switch over to some B4 titanium turnbuckles for the extra length - but the short serpent ball cups don't give a lot of adjustment.
I gave the car an immense beating and the ball cups never jumped off.. they aren't a direct fit though and have a bit of friction unless you are careful - so not ideal.


On woodys car this weekend I tried some Hot Bodies D4 ball cups - but they are a smaller size and need HB ball studs too. But he didn't have a failure and they seem a good fit with the kit / kanzen ti turnbuckles.

rcracer 15-07-2007 10:28 PM

were did you get your serpent ones from jimmy :confused:

jimmy 15-07-2007 11:22 PM

Elite Models / Elite models in Halifax is the UK Importer - but I'm sure other shops can get this stuff. I will post a few words on them soon maybe :) They are good, not ideal - but then I've not found anything that is yet. The Tamiya ones are good for a couple of meetings, then get progressively worse.

stefke 16-07-2007 08:40 AM

I'm using RPM bal cups. Had to change the ball studs to Schumachers

bender 16-07-2007 09:14 AM

I use the ball cups from the RB5 Ultima on my car - no problems since I fitted them, plus they are the same size as the original ballstuds so no need to change other parts :)

rcracer 18-07-2007 02:42 PM

ive got some white losi ballcups but need some ball studs with the same thread as the tamiya if anyone knows of any ?

rcracer 18-07-2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bender (Post 50129)
I use the ball cups from the RB5 Ultima on my car - no problems since I fitted them, plus they are the same size as the original ballstuds so no need to change other parts :)

have you the part number for these ?

stefke 18-07-2007 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracer (Post 50866)
ive got some white losi ballcups but need some ball studs with the same thread as the tamiya if anyone knows of any ?

Schumachers use a metric thread. That's what I used anyway

NeilP 20-07-2007 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarkkom (Post 49983)
Have you tried the new Tamiya ones?

51283 5mm Heavy Duty Adjuster - 8pcs

I have them in stock.

rcracer 20-07-2007 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilP (Post 51294)
I have them in stock.

so i gather these below are the the kit ones :confused:
Tamiya Low Friction 5mm Adjuster (8pcs)
[53601]

delanobe 20-07-2007 11:10 AM

Seems like they are identical to the kit ones??? :wtf:

Or not???

veecee 21-07-2007 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracer (Post 50872)
have you the part number for these ?

UM112 4.8mm Ball End. I have just ordered some from RC Champ along with a load of other goodies... :cool:

jarkkom 11-08-2007 04:30 PM

Ahahah, those Tamiya ball cups are so crap! I popped them off twice today and did NOT even hit anything.

I'm going to order the Kyosho cups..

V-Rossi 13-08-2007 09:46 AM

Are these the Losi ball cups Hupo Hönigl was using on his 501X: http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...ty-Ball/Detail ?
Do they fit the stock turnbuckles of the car?

jimmy 13-08-2007 10:08 AM

yes and yes - just remember Hupo was running yokomo ball studs, I think Hotbodies would work also though.

Rainbow 16-08-2007 08:11 AM

When i use a Losi ball cups.
Do they fit the ball studs of the car?

bender 16-08-2007 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbow (Post 56253)
When i use a Losi ball cups.
Do they fit the ball studs of the car?

Unfortunately no.

You will need Schumacher, Yokomo, or HPI Ball studs.

delanobe 16-08-2007 09:01 AM

Are these the correct HPI ball studs??

4,3x10,3mm PRO4

Thanks

Rainbow 16-08-2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bender (Post 56258)
Unfortunately no.

You will need Schumacher, Yokomo, or HPI Ball studs.

HPI Ball studs can i use a Ball studs for D4?

thank you

jimmy 16-08-2007 02:57 PM

I am using the d4 studs, though I'm using d4 cups as well.. but the losi cups should fit though I've not tried.

Lplate 19-08-2007 03:30 PM

Hi Jimmy,
I'm thinking of following your example and buying myself the HPI Heavy Duty Ball Cups and the ball studs for the D4. Does it require any modification to my TRF501x parts? Thanks in advance.

jimmy 19-08-2007 04:50 PM

no, the only thing I noticed though was the ball cup on the inside hole on the rear camber link - the HB ball cups will slightly rub on the chassis, it's only slight though so you can either sand them down or leave it.. I left it.

Other than that, I think it's all good. I won my first regional today with the HB stuff on. I am using B4 turnbuckles but the kit ones will do the same job.

Lplate 19-08-2007 07:18 PM

Thanks Jimmy!
And congratulations on your win :D
Oh yeah. And thanks for this awesome website.
It was your articles that made me get the 501x as well as the nosram matrix evo 2007.

BORMAC 19-08-2007 09:31 PM

Im running the grey Schumacher ball cups but I also use the Schumacher ball studs too.I wasnt happy with the original tie rods so I opted for some tungsten items aswell.Never had anything come off yet.

Backmarker 20-08-2007 02:03 PM

The Kyosho ball cups are a direct fit. They feel very free, but I've been racing with them for 3 weeks and haven't had one come off yet.

rcracer 20-08-2007 02:08 PM

Since i started this thread the buggers havent popped off since :D how ironic is that ....


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