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Cream 29-04-2010 07:45 AM

K Factory style Mounts NEW 5g Ali mounts
 
Another little update to this very popular product...


Now anodized BLUE :)

Compatible with the DMS front tower, Speedydads line of products for both the X6 and X60.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps9bc5efd4.jpg

The price is £12.00 for the pair. plus postage...

postage is.. (correct 03/06/2013)
U.K. ...£2.50
E.U.... £8.90
None E.U. ...£9.40


Towers are the same price as below... So mounts and tower price has gone up £1.00


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New Ali mounts see page

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...t=45188&page=6




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/IMG_1328.jpg

Been in talks with Tony Mulligan at SRCC about making K Factory style Mounts for the X-6, maybe out of brass. Would there be any demand for these or would I be waisting my time?

Edit...

Update to first post so people don't need to go hunting in the thread...

Right prototypes finished..
These are in mild steel, Finish items will be Stainless steel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/Creamuk/k1-1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/Creamuk/k2-1.jpg

weighed at the post office on the way home. 14g for the pair.


Cost £11 per pair + P&P U.K £2 (sorry postage updated, it's £2 recorded in the U.K.)

TO THOSE ASKING ABOUT POSTAGE OVER SEAS........


Postage cost...

U.K. £2.35 recorded
Europe £8.45 recorded (£2.70 un-recorded @ your risk)
non European countries £8.95 (£3.30 un-recorded @ your risk)


Regards
Noel.


UPDATE 2..
FINAL PRODUCT.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...k/Sdc11085.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...k/Sdc11086.jpg



Mount £11.00
DMS carbon flex Tower £14.69
If bought together £24.99 Now with free stainless screws.




Latest version does not have the pin to the back

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../Alimounts.jpg

IceMike 29-04-2010 07:59 AM

wouldnt the brass be abit soft for this??

Cream 29-04-2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceMike (Post 371752)
wouldnt the brass be abit soft for this??

No I belive it would be fine on such a small part.

lets put it this way, When was the last time you saw Ali screws?

peetbee 29-04-2010 08:18 AM

See here: http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45178

Jamie B4 29-04-2010 08:20 AM

Cool
 
Think the demand would be there as plenty of towers around but no alley bits

Cream 29-04-2010 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peetbee (Post 371757)


Yeah I noticed that, Looks like I'm just jumping on the band wagon, but if you look here http://www.srcc.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1325.0 , you'll see it was mentioned to me at the begining of the month.

peetbee 29-04-2010 08:45 AM

Speaking as a buyer, competition is always good!!

YoungChazz 29-04-2010 08:57 AM

I would not want to add weight that high up and at the very rear.

Moving the weight down and inboard defines The New Math.

Cream 29-04-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungChazz (Post 371773)
I would not want to add weight that high up and at the very rear.

Moving the weight down and inboard defines The New Math.


Sorry for the misunderstanding.
this is the part I'm on about.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/Creamuk/part.jpg

SHY 29-04-2010 09:38 AM

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This one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALU-GRAPHITE-FRO...item53e001d5b2

Attachment 13339

Edit: Sorry, I guess you mean the part with the ballstuds mounted on them? KF1512 part (available in blue or silver)

Cream 29-04-2010 10:01 AM

LOL, not doing very well here are we :-)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...amuk/part2.jpg

SHY 29-04-2010 10:03 AM

It ain't always easy!!! :lol::lol::lol:

Stalypig 29-04-2010 11:11 AM

How about making the mounts in stainless steel like your front and rear bulkheads so that you can offer something different to the brass version being worked on? Definitely gives people choice.

IceMike 29-04-2010 11:31 AM

I would prefer steel

Cream 29-04-2010 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stalypig (Post 371821)
How about making the mounts in stainless steel like your front and rear bulkheads so that you can offer something different to the brass version being worked on? Definitely gives people choice.

TBH I didn't know there where brass ones being worked on.
Also the cost of machining Stainless is a lot greater than brass. Having said that if that's what people would like, I'd look into making them in Stainless.
Plus the stainless bits although I'm getting great feed back from the people that have had them, They're not exactly flying off the shelf so to speak. All that I've sold are from the Southport club that have actually seen them. Guess people don't like change :).

Richard_Griffiths 29-04-2010 01:43 PM

tell you what would be even nicer.

titainum ones would looke cool and make the car lighter.

Might be a little costly thought

SHY 29-04-2010 01:46 PM

My ultimate product wish for the last years' been titanium torx screws! :thumbsup: (doesen't exist)

RudeTony 29-04-2010 02:36 PM

Hi all - RudeBits have been working on these parts for some 3 months. Yes as far back as then but with so so many new products and the demand that drivers require, it has been difficult to test and put in production. They are now very very close to being available for everyone. They will not be brass - Brass is too heavy for this position on a 2wd buggy and the weight would also be in front of the front axle - not good as many top drivers would agree!!
Alloy, Titanium or even some aircraft stainless or similar is what we are working on but on the same token we make parts to perform and therefore some measurement changes may need to be made for maximum impact of the production of this new product can make. These are currently being tested prior to mass production. I hope this helps with some of the questions. All the best for now and meanwhile check out the website for the latest products of so many cars .....

Cream 29-04-2010 04:06 PM

weight I can't really see being a factor...

2 blocks 10mmx10mmx15mm i.e. way more than these blocks will be. weight the following

mild steel. 23 g
brass 25.5 g
stainless steel 24 g
titanium 13.5 g
lead ;) 34 g
ali. 8g

So any worries about weight are unfounded IMHO.


Remember these are way over what the item would weigh in at.

Darren Boyle 29-04-2010 04:34 PM

Even an extra 20gramm up front and that high WILL make a big differance to a 2wd car's handling.......

Cream 29-04-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 371914)
Even an extra 20gramm up front and that high WILL make a big differance to a 2wd car's handling.......

Yeah, but it won't be 20g, by the time they are all machined your probably looking at about 1/3rd of the weight, or even less.

Darren Boyle 29-04-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cream (Post 371930)
Yeah, but it won't be 20g, by the time they are all machined your probably looking at about 1/3rd of the weight, or even less.

The prototype pair I have seen, weighed in at over 22gm for the pair and the K-Factory ones are less than 7gm, so it is at least 15gm which you DONT want in that place of the car.........

RudeTony 29-04-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cream (Post 371904)
weight I can't really see being a factor...

2 blocks 10mmx10mmx15mm i.e. way more than these blocks will be. weight the following

mild steel. 23 g
brass 25.5 g
stainless steel 24 g
titanium 13.5 g
lead ;) 34 g
ali. 8g

So any worries about weight are unfounded IMHO.


Remember these are way over what the item would weigh in at.


Sorry if this sounds rude. Your wrong!
Drivers that know what weight does and why they use it will NOT place it there whatever the amount is. Also again without being rude, some of your calculations are wrong as well or you have typed wrong lets say.

RudeBits was founded on using the best materials for what was needed and where it was needed, ie the Ellis Stafford weight distribution kit. Ellis spent a ludicrous amount of hours to develop that very kit that now everyone can simply buy to make the X6 an awesome car. RudeBits didn't just wake up one morning and decided lets just put weight here and there and so on. Here at RudeBits we are hard core racers that deal at the very highest level and everything is tested to the max prior to production and this part will be no different. Someone else said that competition in manufacturers is healthy but it also has to be understood that these parts are CRITICAL to how a buggy performs. 1mm out will change a set up and so long as I breathe air, the RudeBits will be accurate to I think Dave said 3 microns - everyone else can decide from there.
That's all folks !! - laters for now

sly 29-04-2010 06:44 PM

weight high up???

Big bore shocks are heavier than normal bore shocks? weight higher up
Ans/question. turn them upside down or use normal bore shock?

Alu gearbox tops on a cat. weight higher up
Ans/question stick with the plastic ones?

Hand out transponders are mounted either in the wing or in the bodyshells window or roof. weight high up


Cream you should make them for the people who would like them i think.:thumbsup:

Cream 29-04-2010 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeTony (Post 371952)
Sorry if this sounds rude. Your wrong!
Drivers that know what weight does and why they use it will NOT place it there whatever the amount is. Also again without being rude, some of your calculations are wrong as well or you have typed wrong lets say.

RudeBits was founded on using the best materials for what was needed and where it was needed, ie the Ellis Stafford weight distribution kit. Ellis spent a ludicrous amount of hours to develop that very kit that now everyone can simply buy to make the X6 an awesome car. RudeBits didn't just wake up one morning and decided lets just put weight here and there and so on. Here at RudeBits we are hard core racers that deal at the very highest level and everything is tested to the max prior to production and this part will be no different. Someone else said that competition in manufacturers is healthy but it also has to be understood that these parts are CRITICAL to how a buggy performs. 1mm out will change a set up and so long as I breathe air, the RudeBits will be accurate to I think Dave said 3 microns - everyone else can decide from there.
That's all folks !! - laters for now


3 microns :)
Not to be rude but your mad if your tying your bits down to that. Your right in some respect in as far as I don't have a lot of RC experiance. But what I do have is 24 years machining experiance. Anyway, I'll have a think and get back to peep's about what I decide.

super__dan 29-04-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sly (Post 371964)
Ans/question. turn them upside down or use normal bore shock?

Changes from sprung to unsprung weight. I've never tried it but suspect small/rapid bump handling wouldn't be good.

matdodd 29-04-2010 08:12 PM

I tryed it on a Losi once, it was intresting :thumbdown:

YoungChazz 29-04-2010 11:23 PM

K Factory discontinued this part for a reason -- I'm guessing too expensive to make vs. total sales. That's why we haven't made them.

RS Concept 03-05-2010 10:34 AM

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Hi Guys,

I know you all are aluminium freaks:D, but simple is the best.

I used to replace that alloy part with an broken Asso front tower...costs nothing, works perfect

pics says more than words:

SHY 03-05-2010 10:39 AM

Smart!!! :thumbsup:

mark christopher 03-05-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS Concept (Post 373199)
Hi Guys,

I know you all are aluminium freaks:D, but simple is the best.

I used to replace that alloy part with an broken Asso front tower...costs nothing, works perfect

pics says more than words:

neat idea

RudeTony 03-05-2010 07:28 PM

We all have problems I suppose!!

Cream 08-05-2010 09:38 AM

The story so far.

These are unfinished prototypes, Just made out of steel to proof program.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...k/Sdc11061.jpg

Still need lugs radiusing, drilling and tapping.

Squintz Palladoris 08-05-2010 03:05 PM

Will the final product be alloy or something else?

Cheers,
Brad

Cream 08-05-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squintz Palladoris (Post 374953)
Will the final product be alloy or something else?

Cheers,
Brad

To be finalized, but probably Stainless steel.

paul01ews 08-05-2010 10:49 PM

Nice one cream , looking very good there mate
make sure I am at the top of the list for these please.
I will also get the other project in the post to you Monday but been waiting for some hinge pins.
Paul

Cream 09-05-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul01ews (Post 375098)
Nice one cream , looking very good there mate
make sure I am at the top of the list for these please.
I will also get the other project in the post to you Monday but been waiting for some hinge pins.
Paul


No problem Paul. Glad you like them, Hope your happy with your B4 front bulkhead m8 ;-).

paul01ews 11-05-2010 01:05 AM

Yeh it's spot on mate, nice to see silver / gray instead of the usual gold colour!
Paul.:eh?:

Cream 11-05-2010 04:04 PM

Right prototypes finished..
These are in mild steel, Finish items will be Stainless steel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/Creamuk/k1-1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/Creamuk/k2-1.jpg

weighed at the post office on the way home. 14g for the pair.

jameswilkinson7 11-05-2010 04:53 PM

:thumbsup: Spot on


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