ZX-5 Setups
 

Sticky Thread for posting your SETUPS only.

Please use the following thread for setup Questions.
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=474

Thank you.

with lots of help from jimmy here are the set ups we have to date. i shall be starting the kiddy national with this set up as its what i finished with at the last kiddy meeting

(Click on the images for the full sized version)

Kidderminster
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/zx5/setups/zx5-kiddy.jpg

Tiverton
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/zx5/s...5-tiverton.jpg

Stotfold
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/zx5/s...5-stotfold.jpg

Maybe some can be interested by that kind of thing: ZX5 setups

Hope that can help!!

To improve this kind of documents, every comment is welcome

kiddy national set up. as said in form still needs a little work but was good on the day

(click on image for full sized version)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/zx5/s...zx5-kiddy2.jpg

I found a Mark Pavidis setup @Scottdale, Cactus Classics (PDF)
Added here: ZX5 setups

Latest Setups from Team driver Nathan Ralls for Batley and Oswestry nationals. :) (click to get the BIG version or right click and save to your computer)

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/zx5/s...eynational.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/zx5/s...rynational.jpg

Could the rest of Oswerstry set-up sheet be posted?? I could be nice to see the rest of this sheet.

Cheer

Having just acquired a ZX5, I realize the setups above are all... removed?!
I used to hang around with a 1989 ZXR MKII since new (!) but lately its spares are getting harder to find...
I realize I'm reviving a very old thread, but I hope there is... hope?!

PM ulrich he has got my standard setup,

which is based on but slightly differant to the one that Niggs was running

here are were all the main setups are located

http://www.petitrc.com/view_news.php?id=4565

ZX5-SP damp astro / multi surface base set-up
 

Here is what I am (at least for now) going to use as my base damp astro / multi surface set-up.

Front

Shocks;

2C pistons 30wt (AE)
Losi silver springs
mid mount on wishbone
mid mount on tower

Ride height arms just below level

Camber link mid on bulkhead, outer on upright .. no washers @ either end
-1deg camber

10deg castor blocks, #2 above front arm mount (LAW31)

1mm spacer under ballstud on steering arm to limit bump steer with the 10deg blocks

0deg toe

Kit ackerman

Rear

Shocks;

2B pistons 25wt (AE)
Losi pink springs
mid mount on wishbone
mid mount on tower

Ride height arms level

Camber link inner on bulkhead, outer on upright .. no washers inner, kit 2mm outer.
-1deg camber

#2 under front arm mount

kit 0 deg uprights

2.5deg toe (A25 block)


Cells forward

Novak 5.5R geared 19/78 Sphere setting 2-2-0-0

shaft one-way, diffs just tight enough not to slip both front and rear ... slipper set so as to just give on highest grip section of track.

Ballistic Pink Mini spike, not cut, with DC Racing light blue foams (JC Losi fitting wheels front and rear .... Poline axles for rear and machined front hexs to allow fitment)


The car was easy to drive but maybe a little nervious for some tastes (in which case 35wt oil in the front would help calm it down a bit). Can be thrown around and will not bite.

If dry try Ballistic buggy green mini spikes and if then becomes twitchy then go to 35wt front oil (40wt if too nervious). If grip is higher consider Losi Green front springs and Losi Red rear springs.

ZX5-SP set-up sheet modified to show King Pin Ballstud
 

I have just modified Billy Caldwell's SP sheet to include the king pin ball stud I seem to be running everywhere now.

The sheet is a blank JPG ...... All credit goes to Billy .... I didn't make this sheet!!!!!

Base dry astro / Kiddy set-up
 

After much playing I have arrived at this as a base set-up for dry astro, seems to work everywhere but was worked through at Kidderminster.

This will give the car a lot of steering and it will work better the harder you push ....

Guess I'm the first person to bother to look at this ZX5 setup sheet - it's unreadable! Any chance of posting the info in text instead, or resizing the image?

Yes, it's not a great reproduction ......

I have spoken to Jimmy and he will host the images for me as they sheets come out to big for loading directly to the forum and resizing does that to it!!

PM me your addy and I'll send you a copy via e-mail

Ok .... link to above set-up on photbucket account (created just to share this with you .. LOL)

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...iddy_Feb08.jpg

Hi guys,

Just came back from the Players where I've done a lot of setting up on the FS and finally got the car about where I want it to be. Here's my final setup which was giving me laptimes similar to the guys i'd normally be racing:

Front

Shocks : 3B pistons, 40W oil, inside on tower, middle on wishbone, cap unscrewed 3 turns
Turnbuckles : inside on hub with 3mm spacers, outside on gearbox with -1mm spacers (lower ball stud)
Hubs : 7°, spacer at the bottom, 3mm bump steer with normal ball studs (actually tamiya ball nuts with a screw coming from under the knuckle so it doesn't strip), 1.5mm for ackermann
2mm under front suspension block
Front diff

Rear

Shocks piston 2 holes drilled at 1.5mm, silver springs, out on tower in on wishbone
turnbuckles : outside on hub with 2mm, middle on gearbox with -1mm (same as front), UM519 hubs (or actually std suspension graphite hubs on top hinge pin hole, which is exatly the same).
1mm anti squat, short wheelbase, 3° toe in, silver driveshafts, rear 1.2mm ARB.

No dam on wing, 4° angle, mid position on the tower.

That's about it, car was getting good finally, was an absolute dream to fly it, it'd take the mega jump and land it spot on (unless i'd overcooked it and overshot the down ramp but that was the same for everyone) every time.

Many thanks to Adam SKELDING for his setup help all the week end, Nathan Ralls for his previous help and RogerM for pointing out the difference in the rear hubs !!!

Fabs,

Just looking at your set up below for my friend Rich, can you post a set up sheet please, ( The pictures make it easier ) :p

Thanks

Lee

Panch,

I've been chatting to Rich and if he wants me too I am more than happy to go through the set-ups on the FS with him face to face with the cars in front of us. I can explain everything Fab is doing as he and I are in regular communication.

As far as I am aware there is no set-up sheet for the FS as yet but in the main the SP sheet is usable!

here you have regarding FS setup during Players
Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 FS - Fabs- Players'09 - Worksop - 27-29.03.2009

Roger: let me know what to add-remove to get a setup sheet for the FS

yes i know i should be oh holiday but i am sat waiting for the train so thought i would check out the forums while i was here.

Please can we have the editable setup sheet made avalibale somewher please.

Cheers

Richard:thumbsup:

Arno, can we have the option for a king pin ball-stud, option for rear upright/hub type & cell position.

Also can we have it in something like a JPG small enough to be able to post directly up on here please?

I'll let you know what I was running today on grass, car was mighty!

In the absence of an editable set-up sheet I can post here please see the text below;

Ledbury pre-regional, won the main final and qualified well in first session, TQ'd second session and won final after a horror start that left me last, car very confident and could be pushed really hard!

High grip grass and a mix of packed and loose sandy dirt sections .... rough in places, really rough in others. Some good jumps and a couple of tricky sections.

Front end

Shocks: 35wt AE oil, 2C pistons, #70 Silver springs (1.5 coils removed)
mid on tower, mid on wishbone, ride hieght:- shafts just below level

Links:-shortest possible, 0mm bulkhead, 2mm outer, -1.5deg camber

10deg castor blocks, no spacer between front hingepin mount and gearbox

1mm ARB

Steering; all as per kit other than 0.5deg toe in, black short ball stud on knuckles to reduce bumpsteer

Rear

Shocks: 25wt AE oil, 2B pistons, #68 blue springs
mid on tower, in on wishbone, ride hieght:- shafts level

Links:-outer on hub - mid on bulkhead, 2mm bulkhead, 2mm outer, -1.5deg camber

1.2mm ARB

#4 spacer under forward hingepin mount, #1 spacer under rear
SP width @hingepin mounts and black driveshafts
(will change to FS width when parts available to do so as I feel the car would benefit from the rised roll centres)

Cells forward (E-Power 4500 NiMh)
Wing low, mid angle

Novak 6.5L geared 23 against kit spur


Tyres: Ballistic Buggy green mini spikes when grass slightly damp (good on the loose dirt, less so on the packed surfaces). Schumacher yellow mini spikes when fully dry. Both sets of tires in very shape but not brand new, both sets with the outer row cut from the front tires.


Now here is the suprise ....... front one-way!

Woody is right, on this car you car practically swap between the one-way diff and a true diff whilst changing nothing else on the set up, never came across another car able to do that.

I ran most of the day on a diff then the track was changed to one that needed a more point and squirt style and Brian Preddy suggested a change to a one-way. The major benefit was that the jump sections didn't flow and the one-way would allow you to roll forward easier if the car landed nose down were as the diff unsettled the car. Earlier in the day when the jumps flowed I ran the diff to benefit from the extra brakes.

Roger just looking at your setup up for ledbury and noticed that on the rear hub carriers there are three options top middle and bottom. Yet on the hub carriers fitted to my fs that come with the kit i only have one hole.

Maybe i am missing somthing

The original ZX5 had 3 holes on the hub carriers for ride height adjustment. The new hubs on the SP's and FS's have one hinge pin hole. The SP came with LA252 hubs that have one hole (the middle hole on the original hubs) and the FS comes with UM519 hubs (same as the top hole on the original hubs). You can use either hub on the cars depending on how you want to set up ride height and/or roll center.

Roger, have you info on whats different between the hingepin mounts on the SP and the LA271 mounts that the FS kit comes with? I've never heard of any change there (except the part #) The SP mounts come with the bulkheads....LA209 or LA210, and on the FS the bulkheads were changed (dropping the diffs lower in the chassis) so maybe its just a part # change?

The FS also comes with the RB5 midarm hubs, UM519 and the UM510 driveshaft set (shiny 62.5mm standard RB5 ones, which are 2mm longer than the black SP shafts). I'm thinking that if anything, the FS hingepin mounts would have to widen the car some to avoid any issues with the longer bones plunging too deep into the outdrives. If thats the case, then you might be able to adjust for that with the LAW36 and LAW37 aluminum mounts (which just about anyone that converted their SP to an FS is probably running already) using the correct inserts.

And you said something about the roll center change with these, so are you thinking that these mounts have the hinge pin height altered to change the roll center?

I'll have to look into that this weekend and maybe pick at Joe Pillars and see if he knows any details about this.

The hinge pin mounts are approx 2mm further apart between centres on the FS, hence the 62.5 mm driveshafts.

Yes there is enough adjustment with the LAW36/37 mounts, that is what I am using .... but only just enough

The new bulkheads are part numbers LA262 and LA263

Thats what I thought. In fact over the weekend, I was racing with another Kyosho driver out here and his FS had different inserts in his LAW36/37 mounts. I believe his rear inserts were "B" instead of the standard "C". He wasnt sure what his front insert was (Chukuba, one of the Japanese r&d guy told him to "put these in", so he did)

Hi all,

Here's a link to the very first editable setup sheet for the ZX5-FS.

There might be a slightly updated version soon.

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho/...azerZX5FS.html

Fab

I've been over checking these for Arno and that looks like the final version. Cracking job he's done too!

You're right I hadn't checked but the fields have been updated now. :thumbsup:

Great job guys very nice

Cheers and thanks again

I'll send you a couple of completed ones if you send me an e-mail addy Rich, too big to post directly to this forum

Lipo
 

Hi all,

I Know that it must be difficult, but... has anybody a zx5 FS setup for Lipo?:confused:

Thanks

zaskar Are you currently running lipos in you FS

If you are i have a few questions for you.

What lipos are you running.

How much weight did you have to add to make it legal

Did you have to modify the chassi to get the lipos to fit.

Cheers

Rich

Hi,

First, sorry for my english:), i only have ran the car one time with Lipo, it was a first test. The Lipo are Intellect 4200 30C and yes, i have to modify the chasis. The car with this cells weighs 1580 gr.
what is the addicional weigh we need to run the car with Lipo and have a good balance?¿?¿? i supose that is the question... today, i don't know

I'd love to help mate but on this occassion I can not, I have no access to LiPos to do any trials with. Sorry

If it's any help Richard is asking because his car was massively under wieght (something like 100g) with his track power 3200s in.
Also to give you a guide my set-ups are based on a car weight of around 1700g so about 200g over the minimum weight limit as I use NiMh.

If you find an answer / good set-up balance then pleae let us know.

Guess the easy way is to add a piece of brass or lead under the battery to equal the nimh cell weight, then use a standard setup. The ideal is to put the weight in the car to help the balance/control, possibly softer springs/oil. Perhaps look at the X6, B44, D4 forums to see how drivers are adjusting these cars.

Roger, looks like google doc's are allowing the upload/sharing of pdf's now, worth a look ?

For those who still run the car.

My setup for the ZX5-FS from Stotfold is now on Petit RC.

After a little help from Mick Cragg the car feels its best ever, 1s per lap faster than it was before whilst easier to drive.

My setup from Southport..
 

Its nearly there.. have a few more things to try, but this aint far off.. well for me anyway :woot: :thumbsup:

http://www.cls.eclipse.co.uk/RCSetUp...%2009%2009.pdf