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wacattack 14-04-2010 07:17 PM

Awesome, my Elise has head gasket failure
 
In for repair now. Rubbish :thumbdown:

Big G 14-04-2010 07:29 PM

that's gonna be pricey

I had to replace a window and ended up £190 lighter :(

wacattack 14-04-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big G (Post 366995)
that's gonna be pricey

I had to replace a window and ended up £190 lighter :(

Yep, still not had the quote on the repair but they are cracking on with it anyway :D

MRD 14-04-2010 07:43 PM

Is it the K Series engine by any chance? Head gaskets were a common problem on those :thumbdown:.

Richard Lowe 14-04-2010 07:50 PM

Now you've got an excuse to take the little engine out and put a real one in...



:thumbsup:

mikeyscott 14-04-2010 07:57 PM

Love the R32 engine. Mate had(s) a MK4 R32 with a fully milltek system

Love the Porsche's there..

R32 engine and then supercharge it :thumbsup:

Aran 14-04-2010 07:58 PM

want an s1 elise so badly, one of my favourite cars.

shame about the engines though :/. just remember why you love it so much :)

should put a honda type r engine in :P

mikeyscott 14-04-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Aran (Post 367016)

should put a honda type r engine in :P

Not keen on them, too revy and thrashy

I've fed up with the turbo on my Cupra hence why I want a V6!

Any more pics of the Lotus? Is that the EVO Lambo?

wacattack 14-04-2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 367009)
Now you've got an excuse to take the little engine out and put a real one in...



:thumbsup:

Im really surprised a few of the Porkys were able to pull away from it in a straight line drag.

Surely an R32 engine in an Elise wouldnt make it handle right. The Elise's handling characteristics are based on light weight and balance. Put an R32 lump in it and both contradict this, its too heavy and the balance of the car would be completely out of sync

wacattack 14-04-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRD (Post 367003)
Is it the K Series engine by any chance? Head gaskets were a common problem on those :thumbdown:.

Yeah knew it when I bought it. Ive had it 5 years and this is the first thing thats gone wrong (apart from having to replace the usual, breaks, discs, shocks, bearings, bushes, ball joints)

wacattack 14-04-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aran (Post 367016)
want an s1 elise so badly, one of my favourite cars.

shame about the engines though :/. just remember why you love it so much :)

should put a honda type r engine in :P

Its certainly something thats tempted me. The car is fully paid off now so rather buy a new car, ive been thinking of an engine transplant. Only thing is, you start doing that but where do you stop. Racing brakes, pads, nitrons, induction kits, splitters, diffusers, radiators, racing seats, harness, throttle body etc etc etc :thumbsup:

wacattack 14-04-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 367017)
Not keen on them, too revy and thrashy

I've fed up with the turbo on my Cupra hence why I want a V6!

Any more pics of the Lotus? Is that the EVO Lambo?

Yeah got plenty of pics, will post some when I get chance

gaza121 15-04-2010 07:15 AM

Head gasket should cost no more than around £400 max, depends how easy it is to get to in an Elise, make sure they are replacing using the multi-layered improved gasket.:thumbsup:

burgie 15-04-2010 07:48 AM

I used to work for the company that made the gaskets for the K Series Engines, including the ones for the Lotus Elise Engines....I can't believe the gasket actually lasted 5 years :o

Richard Lowe 15-04-2010 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wacattack (Post 367036)
Im really surprised a few of the Porkys were able to pull away from it in a straight line drag.

Surely an R32 engine in an Elise wouldnt make it handle right. The Elise's handling characteristics are based on light weight and balance. Put an R32 lump in it and both contradict this, its too heavy and the balance of the car would be completely out of sync

Everyone puts weight in their mid-motored X6 :woot:

CBRDEAN0 15-04-2010 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wacattack (Post 367038)
Its certainly something thats tempted me. The car is fully paid off now so rather buy a new car, ive been thinking of an engine transplant. Only thing is, you start doing that but where do you stop. Racing brakes, pads, nitrons, induction kits, splitters, diffusers, radiators, racing seats, harness, throttle body etc etc etc :thumbsup:

Most of the bits for an engine change should exist - the exige had a toyota motor in it from the celica i belive.

Rich D 15-04-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wacattack (Post 367038)
Its certainly something thats tempted me. The car is fully paid off now so rather buy a new car, ive been thinking of an engine transplant. Only thing is, you start doing that but where do you stop. Racing brakes, pads, nitrons, induction kits, splitters, diffusers, radiators, racing seats, harness, throttle body etc etc etc :thumbsup:


I had the Nitrons when i had my Elise - you wouldnt regret buying those :thumbsup:

Especially with the Yokohama rubber !

Chequered Flag Racing 15-04-2010 12:16 PM

Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious :lol:

but still my favourite F1 Team from Colin Chapmans days

njc11 15-04-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich D (Post 367182)
I had the Nitrons when i had my Elise - you wouldnt regret buying those :thumbsup:

Especially with the Yokohama rubber !

Have to agree :thumbsup: money well spent on these for me!

Get a 2.2 16v Supercharged Vauxhall lump in it ;) 300bhp i hear now!

Stage2 240bhp 215-220 lb ft torque

or the 2.0 16v T VXR lump... how ever much BHP you dare! :o

http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/

jimmy 15-04-2010 01:27 PM

Are you talking about these? http://www.eliseparts.com/products/s...ay-adjustable/

:o Bit expensive like!

I like the toyota engine, pretty quiet and girly sounding though unless you're hammering it

isobarik 15-04-2010 01:40 PM

And when youre still att the shop let them fix that steering problem also ....
its on the wrong side of the car ....:thumbsup:

mvh Isobarik

Answer-RC-Pete 15-04-2010 02:05 PM

I was under the imprssion that those used in the Elise were sorted by then - obviously not?

Had a K series failure in wifeys Rover years back and despite getting it skimmed etc it was never a happy bunny after that.

Drove an Elise a month back and have been watching the clasifieds ever since, tell me its not so that the Kseries problems carried through to those on the Elise..

Welshy40 15-04-2010 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRD (Post 367003)
Is it the K Series engine by any chance? Head gaskets were a common problem on those :thumbdown:.

K series were reluable which was unusual but a good engine. Gutted. I had that happen in my merc and wont buy one again. Now my brakes have died on my tt and fixing thats gonna cost me a bomb

Welshy40 15-04-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 367220)
And when youre still att the shop let them fix that steering problem also ....
its on the wrong side of the car ....:thumbsup:

mvh Isobarik

Iso

you need to read up on your history. Germany (benz) beat the brits (daimler) by a week inventing the car. But we had the first roads for cars and we drive on the correct side with the wheel on the correct side. Dont forget there are a lot of countries driving on the same side, more than you know.

smokes 15-04-2010 07:39 PM

make sure they change the stretch bolts, or the gaskets will blow again!

K series engine is one of the best engines for power to weight ratio, shame it was cost engineered to death, thats why the gaskets fail.

Lotus went to toyota as they could get rover to make the k series euro IV compliant or meet federal emmision standards. if you were to swap i would try and fit a toyota 4ge engine in which was a copy of the cosworth BDA.
Rev freely and produces good power.

MRD 15-04-2010 07:56 PM

If I remember correctly the Kseries was a Honda Unit built while Rover and Honda were partners. I'm pretty sure all of the rovers from about 86 onwards use honda running gear. I'll have to look it up to check tho.

smokes 15-04-2010 09:33 PM

yeah the K serie was a joint venture between Honda and rover but was used in rovers as honda thought it was too cutting edge for them.

wacattack 15-04-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Answer-RC-Pete (Post 367231)
I was under the imprssion that those used in the Elise were sorted by then - obviously not?

Had a K series failure in wifeys Rover years back and despite getting it skimmed etc it was never a happy bunny after that.

Drove an Elise a month back and have been watching the clasifieds ever since, tell me its not so that the Kseries problems carried through to those on the Elise..

yep, the issues carried through unfortunately. There are things you can do to try and protect the engine as much as possible, don't go above 3000rpm until engine is fully warm. Let the engine cool a bit after a thrash before turning it all. However these are all things I've done religiously yet it has still succomb to the failure.

From 2004 the elise moved to the Toyota engine, celica in the 111R and corrola engine in the 111s.

I've have aa cover which comes with a parts and labour warranty which covers the first £500 of any repair so should cover the majority of expensive failures on the car.

Even though this has happened i'll never get rid of it. Every time I get into it it brings a smile to my face. The only cars i'd swap it for are either a S1 exige or s2 exige scurra. Awesome cars

Rich D 15-04-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 367215)
Are you talking about these? http://www.eliseparts.com/products/s...ay-adjustable/

:o Bit expensive like!

I like the toyota engine, pretty quiet and girly sounding though unless you're hammering it

Same manufacturer Jimmy but mine didnt have remote resevoirs on them. Looked identical aside from that with the adjusters at the bottom and were about £1600 if i recall correctly. This was in 2004/2005 time. Still the best car i have ever owned for smiles per £. :thumbsup:

jimmy 15-04-2010 10:17 PM

Exige Scura? is that the matt black one? Someone posted pics of theirs on seloc - wowzer that's a nice looking car.

I found those dampers you're talking about now. Isherwood took me out in his Elise SC back in October and his car had the nitrons on it - felt much stiffer than my car and a bit of a bone shaker on the roads around our house, felt very nice on the a048's on the open road though. He even had racing harnesses in it - what a warrior. :thumbsup:

wacattack 24-04-2010 12:40 PM

Car has finally been fixed. Wallet is massively lighter but the jobs a good 'en and that's all that matters :)

anyone with a performance car in the north who is looking for a garage they can trust then give Phoenix Motorsport in accrington a try. They've never let me down and charge reasonable rates

steelie600 24-04-2010 12:49 PM

Are the Mitsubishi knowledged??? I want some machining work on my engine 350bhp just aint enough!!

wacattack 24-04-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelie600 (Post 369993)
Are the Mitsubishi knowledged??? I want some machining work on my engine 350bhp just aint enough!!

Not sure, you would need to give them a call. They work on all kinds of track biased cars, elise, Porsche, single seaters etc.

When you say 350bhp isn't enough, can I ask enough for what? Do you track it? Have you ever considered track focussed driver training? In terms of benefit you would get a hell of a lot more out of driver training than paying to get more bhp


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