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derek5 28-06-2007 01:20 PM

Novak Brushless 5.5 or 6.5??
 
i'm new in BJ4, i want to know 5.5 or 6.5 which one is suitable in BJ4? is it 5.5 too powerful? and what's the teeth of pinion you are using?

Lee 28-06-2007 04:02 PM

You can never have too much power, if you can control your left thumb;)

The 5.5 seems to be the option most go for in 4wd, but depending on your level of skill you may be quicker wth a 6.5.

Andy Moore 28-06-2007 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 47082)
You can never have too much power, if you can control your left thumb;)

The 5.5 seems to be the option most go for in 4wd, but depending on your level of skill you may be quicker wth a 6.5.


If you can control your left index finger ;) hahaha

I have the LRP 6.5 in my car, and I only switch over to the 5.5 for the larger tracks.

Northy 28-06-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 47082)
but depending on your level of skill you may be quicker wth a 6.5.

Hey Lee, I only run a 6.5 in my Pred :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Lee 28-06-2007 06:04 PM

I still use brushed;)

Good old fashioned checkpoint 10x2

Proper retro:D

Hairy Spider 28-06-2007 08:45 PM

I'm running a Novak GTB/4.5 in my BJ4 and I'm loving it but I am right on the limit of my Batt 4000 cells. Had to drop to 14/78 from 15 at the last meeting to guarantee the finish :( . Still plenty fast enough though :)

Regards,
Jon.

Richard Lowe 28-06-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek5 (Post 47039)
i'm new in BJ4, i want to know 5.5 or 6.5 which one is suitable in BJ4? is it 5.5 too powerful? and what's the teeth of pinion you are using?

I run an LRP 5.5 in my BJ4 which is pretty spot on, I can't imagine really wanting a 6.5; just don't push the stick/trigger as far ;)

The Novak motors are slightly slower turn for turn compared to the LRP's so a 5.5 Novak is probably somewhere between an LRP 5.5 and 6.5, go for the 5.5 :)

tony6187 29-06-2007 04:21 PM

i just got a bj4 myself.have a novak 5.5 and 6.5 any idea of what pinions to use with these motors?cheers for any help

paulc 07-07-2007 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 47160)
I run an LRP 5.5 in my BJ4 which is pretty spot on, I can't imagine really wanting a 6.5; just don't push the stick/trigger as far ;)

The Novak motors are slightly slower turn for turn compared to the LRP's so a 5.5 Novak is probably somewhere between an LRP 5.5 and 6.5, go for the 5.5 :)

what pinion you runing with the 5.5 lrp rich

cheers paul

notlawnomis 07-07-2007 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony6187 (Post 47232)
i just got a bj4 myself.have a novak 5.5 and 6.5 any idea of what pinions to use with these motors?cheers for any help


I'm running the Novak 5.5 on a 17 and kit spur (78t)

Richard Lowe 08-07-2007 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulc (Post 48539)
what pinion you runing with the 5.5 lrp rich

cheers paul

15 or 16 depending on the track with an 81 spur (the kit spur is 78) :)

paulc 08-07-2007 01:11 PM

thanks:)

mimoot 08-07-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 48647)
15 or 16 depending on the track with an 81 spur (the kit spur is 78) :)

Do you use the stock rotor (bounded) or the option one (sinterred) ?

Thanks

Lee 08-07-2007 06:25 PM

Rich uses the novak sintered motors.

NeilD 08-07-2007 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 48709)
Rich uses the novak sintered motors.

Are you sure??

LEGEND 08-07-2007 07:06 PM

Which rich? Rich Lowe. It is just that when ever i have seen his car he has been running a lrp x11 5.5 motor. Well he could have put a novak sintered rotor in it whithout out us all knowing.;)

NeilD 08-07-2007 07:11 PM

I was pitting with him on Sat and i'm 100% certain he runs LRP cans and rotors. My 5.5 died and we had a conversation about rotors this is why i'm asking.

notlawnomis 08-07-2007 07:14 PM

Bit off topic but, did you make it to York in time Neil!!

..........and what is Morphosis Automotive Artwork???

Lee 08-07-2007 07:16 PM

You are correct sorry chaps, Rich advised me to get novak sintered, sorry i stand corrected.

NeilD 08-07-2007 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notlawnomis (Post 48723)
Bit off topic but, did you make it to York in time Neil!!

..........and what is Morphosis Automotive Artwork???

Hi Simon, yes we made it to York in time although we were a little tired, Richards eyes had turned red he was that shattered!

Morphosis is Simon major who sprays my shells along with a few others. He's very quick, 3-4 day turnaround although i think he managed to spray Gregg Williams shell in 24 hours as he needed it for a National. His prices are superb too.


Lee, thanks for letting me have a go with your car as well.:)

Lee 08-07-2007 08:04 PM

I wanted to give it to you for the last final but i got snee`d in leg 2, let me know where your racing next and ill do 2wd and you can run mine

NeilD 08-07-2007 08:14 PM

Top man thats really good of you. I can't believe Snee butchered someone.:D :D

Richard Lowe 08-07-2007 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilD (Post 48728)
Hi Simon, yes we made it to York in time although we were a little tired, Richards eyes had turned red he was that shattered!

I almost fell asleep a couple of times at the York meeting lol :D

LRP motors in both my cars at the moment, will be moving to Novak when funds allow (sticking with LRP/Nosram speedo's though) :)

NeilD 08-07-2007 08:25 PM

I've just ordered a 4.5. Need a car for it to go in now...

notlawnomis 08-07-2007 08:29 PM

4.5, you animal!!!

......BJ4's are good :p

NeilD 08-07-2007 08:36 PM

I was running a borrowed 4.5 on Sat. as my 5.5 died, it was great fun just ask your dad!!

A BJ4 is an option they do seem to go well.:)

Lee 08-07-2007 08:41 PM

I wouldn`t swap mine for anything else on the market right now. The car is so easy to drive fast, it suits the smoother driver also.

NeilD 08-07-2007 08:43 PM

I really like my XX4 but want to have a good run with a BJ4 and do a side by side test.

LEGEND 08-07-2007 08:54 PM

I currently have a bj4we and would quite like to see how well a xx4 goes compared to it. So maybe a little temparary swap maybe in order, depending on how each of us drives.:)

NeilD 08-07-2007 08:56 PM

Er, i think i'll take up Lee's generous offer, thanks though.

gazbaz2 15-07-2007 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEGEND (Post 48752)
I currently have a bj4we and would quite like to see how well a xx4 goes compared to it. So maybe a little temparary swap maybe in order, depending on how each of us drives.:)

And who is going to lend you there xx4 to try then:confused:

LEGEND 15-07-2007 05:02 PM

I would have to find a willing voulentier.:D But they would not be allowed to know how i have driven cars before.:rolleyes: So they wouldn't know how the car COULD end up, I emphesize the word COULD as it COULD happen. But not for definate.:)

Sorry about the spelling

Body Paint 15-07-2007 09:32 PM

I ran my Novak sintered 5.5 in the S4 (same transmission as BJ4) for the first time today at Oswestry and I am very pleased with it. I started with 16/78 and ended with 18/78 I still think it might have pulled a slightly bigger gear on the really long straight but to be honest it was quick enough for me.

As I understand it a sintered rotor runs 2/3 pinions higher than a bonded rotor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 48738)
I almost fell asleep a couple of times at the York meeting lol :D

LRP motors in both my cars at the moment, will be moving to Novak when funds allow (sticking with LRP/Nosram speedo's though) :)


KyoshoK 21-07-2007 04:11 AM

i run a 7.5, my lap times are as fast as (or faster) than anyone here at my track who runs a 5.5

my straights are about 25meters (70 foot?)

end of day its down to driver and tires....

franki 24-08-2007 12:17 PM

what about a 4.5?

ashleyb4 24-08-2007 01:20 PM

I run a 7.5 in my xx4 ive driven a bj4 and i personally preffer the xx4 its seems smoother and more predicatable.

how come you are running novak motors rich???

A

font9a 08-03-2008 09:01 AM

B44 motor / gearing
 
Novak 5.5R with a sintered rotor upgrade. 16t Richardson Racing titanium pinion and 84t composite spur (stock AE), ceramic diff balls and ceramic bearings throughout.

Sintered rotor definitely gives more punch off the line and at mid-throttle -- typlical race conditions. Plus, it stops like a 10-cent crack whore picking up a penny with a little front finger push. Need to adjust the GTB to be 9% instead of 27% breaking.Top-end is perfectly in line, or faster with the R series motors. I have giant maxamps 5500 Lipo packs, so I get 20 min+ runtimes with all that hot motor. What I have to be especially careful about is balding my front tires too soon in the race. It's easy to do because the car just pulls and pulls. I might need to set my wing a little more agressively to conteract the front steerage. I'll be looking to upgrade the motor bearings to ceramic as soon as they're available -- LRP just announced them and I think the specs are the same for Novaks.

Couldn't be happier with the setup -- just have to drive consistently to optimize speed over uncontrollability.

Again, the sintered rotor is definitiely a cultured improvement for the 5.5R Novak. Your milage may vary. I can't imagine a faster motor in this car....

DX3R + digital HRC36965S Hitec servo, BJ4 carbon and alu steering kit, BJ4 center diffs; lundsford Ti everything.


-- font9a

Lee 08-03-2008 09:15 AM

Orion is where its at!!

I was very disappointed with the novak motors:(


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