just wondered cougar sv who is and what.
 

Thought i would just find out who&how many people are ordering the sv and witch model.
Ive pre ordered mine just now as i dont have much time i did think about the pre assemble kit,but then thought ive always built my cougars so sod it i will make time.
I ve ordered the cf version just had to,from mk models price drop already.:thumbsup:
Leon

I ordered the CF Pro kit version. Can't wait, thinking of adding a SX2 to that as well :thumbsup:

Well if i sell my trf501 i will also,love shuy gear:thumbsup:
The sv will look great with my other cougar collection.

both new cars are on my to do list hope they arrvie soon,cfpro cougar and the full fat catsx2,

SV S1

and heres your lovely s1 shocks dcm, :confused:

i was about to say that lol,£80 for the shocks hhhmm cf one got to be.

I've pre ordered the K111 kit, which is the CF non built one. Had some really bad build issues with my last pre built Cat SX PB.

Haven't decided whether I'm looking my Cat SX for an SX2. Will prob just order the big bore shocks and sell the Losi shocks that are on my Cat SX at the moment.

My Cat SX is already pretty up to date with the LIPO stiff chassis, alloy mounts and so on. never had a prob with the slipper with RW spurs.

not to bothered to be fair....

I'll probably get the carbon kit unless it turns out too pricey hereabouts, in which case I will not buy the SV at all; I've got already a car with crappy shocks...

Schumacher should have released the 2wd first and then a 4wd. Thanks to the arrival of the Cougar the Cat has gained great interest even in Sweden. Have not even seen a Cat in real life and now suddenly I know of at least 4 people who is going to buy it due to the Cougar. Me as well:thumbsup:.

Have ordered and paid for the Pro kit and the SX2 too. Down payment so far;)

Preordered the Cougar SV carbon shiney shine one :)
It would be rude not to really!

All of our pre-orders so far are heavily waited in favour of the PRO as opposed to the S1 (by over 3 to 1) and EVERYONE (baring 1 person) with us has ordered a kit and not a pre-built "lazy mans" car :thumbsup:

Glad people are opting for the kit as the pre built quality on the Cat last time was rubbish

Why pay more for less fun?! :confused:

Is the S1 really gonna come with those shocks? The design of those shocks has not changed since 1991. Way to take a cutting edge buggy and make it sucky!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

i thought it would have come with the original cat SX shocks

Guys, they do have to get it down to he "S1" price somehow though.... Just changing Carbon to S1 and removing some of the fancy diff bits is never going to save them the £80 differance that there is between the two specs.

The S1 is supposed to be the "budget man's" car (or as I think the Schumcher press release read) for the "racers with an eye on cost". Just because the shocks are not big bore and just becuse they are not threaded does NOT make then bad! For most club racers they will be MORE than adequate!!!

On the cheaper B-Max from Yokomo the cheap kit comes with plastic shocks to save money (just thank god that Schuey did not make them plastic too, there would be uproar!! LOL)

I think the link about the relase of both cars together is right.
I my self is will to sell the wife and all 4 kids to get a sv,only joking if she is reading this lol,but as soon as the sx2 was launched i was well i want that to,i think they have been clever to do this BUT i wish they had NOT.
God dam schumacher:thumbsup:

Mines pre-ordered, the dogs nuts kit version, got it quite cheap too:thumbsup:

For once, I mostly agree, I also think that Schumacher know the Pro kit will sell more, and when you actually add up the cost difference, as don't forget, although Big Bores cost £80 (apparently), the kit shocks also cost, I don't expect to see Titanium turnbuckles either, no Carbon will save lots too.

How bloody cheep if more than me i will throw all toys out of pram lol:thumbsup:

Wow! :woot::wub :thumbsup: LOL

I did say mostly, can't go breaking tradition!! :lol:

It will be VERY interesting to see if all of the "cheap" shops get the stock they are hoping for when it is released...... :o

If the forum wasnt full of characters with there own opinion it would be a very dull place indeed......

I have all the time in the world for a person with their own piece of mind as long as their discussion, views and points are well constructed, thought out and I guess in a readable language, unlike some of the random text speak and poor punctuation we see all too often on here nowadays....... :(

I take it thats not at me?.:cry:

No not at all, aimed at people "past" more than anything who seem to have been escorted out of the back door by Jimmy never to return :thumbsup:

There are still a few around though and lots of silly threads full of bickering too much too though :(....

I thought as much:thumbsup:

K111 CF pro all the way for me, may consider an sx2 as well!!!!!!!:woot:

Point taken DMS. Correct me if I am wrong but does the CAT S1 not come with the same shocks as CAT SX? The fact remains that those shocks were designed twenty years ago. There is virtually no difference between those and the ones on my JRX2. It would have been easy for Schumacher to cut costs without eliminating one of the most appealing aspects of the Cougar SV, THE WICKED COOL SHOCKS! For example, they could have included the shocks with steel shafts instead of Ti and used plastic shock caps in place of the shiny purple bits. There are lots of other places they could have cut costs.

I am just bitter because I was going to buy the S1 and now I am not so sure.:confused:

The only difference really, between the shocks on a B2 and a B4, is that the B4 ones are threaded... now, the B2 is going back some...... It would of been nice to of seen them as plain big bore ones, not threaded, but hey, for the most of us, really, what are you wanting the big bores for, as I am sure that it, in the end, won't change my finishing position in my racing!!

But plastics will only save money if they have the moulds already. Shock parts as you mention would have added a production cost not reduced it, if you look at the spring cups they are the same as the sx?
Consider that plastic parts only become cost effective once a volume target is met. This is why lots of the cars out there have common components from older models in a manufacturers range.

I don't believe any real pictures of the s1 have appeared yet, so the actual appearance of the shocks is only speculation.

In the German forums, a team driver mentioned the "old" shocks; for me it sounds to be the ones I had on my Cougar 2.

Not taking into account the higher production costs, I'd prefer threaded plastic shocks over unthreaded metal ones.
If the S1 featured the CAT SX shocks, Schumacher would probably less CF kits, but more Cougar SVs in total...

Anyway, I'm set on getting an SV with threaded shocks! :p

you don't HAVE to use (old) schumacher shocks :-)

Tamiya, losi, anything you've got lying around from your previous 2wd.

What Wayne says is spot on, any "alternative spec" part (including plastic shocks) would ONLY be chaeper of thery already have it tooled up from previuos use, if it needed a new tool making it would not be any cheper for them.

Schumacher have confirmed to those of us who have spoke to them that the S1 will use the "old" style shocks that are used on current models like their nitro recreational vehicles

not true

check the parts listing for the spare for couger sv, then read darrens post above

http://www.racing-cars.com/sp/catego...Absorbers.html

Ive ordered the Pro CF version in kit version of course...

just wondering what springs come with the bigbores and what else to order as spares..

Iam glad i ordered the kit one now as it sounds like made up versions have not been to good?.
Is it mid march yet.:thumbsup:

By that logic how would any manufacturer be able to produce new kits with 90% new parts and expect to turn a profit? Besides, with the CAT SX2(big bore shocks) replacing the SX on store shelves it would have been cost effective to put the SX threaded shocks on the Cougar S1 because the tooling is already in place. It really does not matter to me because I have a spare set of SX threaded shocks I can use if I choose to get the S1.

I am just being devils advocate because I am enjoying this discussion.:D