NEW Outdoor Track
 

I know it's short notice but some guys from the council want a meet with me on Wednesday at 12:00 to discus our needs for the track move...
Your ideas please asap.
The one idea I have is to have the rostrum on the other side of the track to protect from wind and sun in your eyes. Also if it was not so tall maybe have a ramp for wheelchairs.

Where is the track moving to?

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And RHR :thumbsup:

I love the Bury track, so just more of the same please, but the above is a good idea :)

G

new track
 

yeh that would be a good idea roger what about finding a decent membrain to lay under the astro turf on the new track to stop the weeds coming through it would keep maintanance down and also do away with the in field grass sections and have it all astroturf.i like the high rostrum so i think it would be a good idea to keep that and you could build a lower piece on one end for wheel chairs.

TBH As long was we design the layout so that the whole track is visible from ground level wheelchair access is less of a problem. The issue at present is that even standing on the ground by the rostrum you can't see the whole track, so wheelchair visiblity is rubbish.
Our rostrum doesn't need to be so high, but its the height it is because of the containers underneath and they are rather handy so it makes sense to stay that way.
Rostrum out of the sun/wind good idea. Where will we be parking/pitting - might be a factor.
As for the track itself - I don't mind really but agree all astro rather than astro/grass and lets see if we can't improve the drainage as I think thats the main reason for the weeds growing though (but membrane is a good idea)

Well thats a turn around, good news hopefully tho! good fencing possibly to stop the bikers / vandals? all the points above are good...

Andy

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Something like a palisade fence is probably what will be required if it's possible within the budget

http://www.steelfence.co.uk/product_palifence.html

Fortunately RHR have the luxury of being away from 'predators' unlike Bury, apart from the odd local 5heepshagger but they don't vandalise tracks.

Agree with the track suggestions, and also, below the track surface have land drains built in (not expensive, just either perforated pipe or just trenches filled with gravel) that fall to a soakaway remote from the track. soakaway just needs to be a sone filled pit essentially, that then allows the water drained from the track to go somewhere temporarily and then disperse gradually into the surrounding ground.

Yes this is along the lines of what i was thinking (if possible), a good deterent is needed.

Andy

The only thing that I can see that is wrong with having a fence like that is how would you get onto the track to practice?

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i like the track the way it is with the concrete islands etc as it takes a lot less time and is easier to set out a track :thumbsup: (track can be laid out easy by two people), having rostrum on other side is a good idea so is having it fully astrod, maybe have one cobbled corner or summat,itl be good if we could get some astro in large lengths to cut down on weeds and having problems with joints curling up or needing re seating with big hammer,but aswell the blank canvas idea will be less maintanence and proberly not generate as much interest with the kids in trashing it with bikes and so on!

I agree with that I think the tracks great but a little evil towards my car but oh well what can you do if you like taking the jumps to fast! :thumbsup:

Doggers seem to be the issue at RHR.....

Cost aside, high metal fencing round the track might cause a few interference probs?

If you can't keep the locals out then an all-astro track makes sense. Having one without islands might deter the bike racers but will add to storage and raceday labour requirements. Personally I think the current Bury arrangement of familiar 'sections' that can be quickly joined together in many differing ways is great.

Decent drainage as mentioned plus look at the pitting requirements - if they build a bigger sports centre it'll also have a bigger, fuller carpark which means less space for the racers seeing as BTFC don't like us on their pitches?

Then you went to your car and got your racing gear out for the day:D:p

Never tried it with modern 2.4ghz stuff but Springfield used to have a track next to some tennis courts with that sort of fencing used to generate massive interference on 27 and 40mhz systems. OK, stuffs moved on since the early '90s but I'd still avoid.
Personally I'd rather make it so they don't find it worth climbing the fence.

Father in laws a builder, specifically a site foreman so can advise us on suitable drainage etc if need be. Got feelers out for some new (used) astro but getting it to the track would be an issue as it needs a big lorry and a lot of manpower to shift. Can probably 'acquire' most tools courtesy of Wigan council though clearly only for as long as they won't be missed. This does include a mini-digger but we haven't worked out how to sneak that one out yet.....

Look up faraday cages, thats the theory anyway. Any signal can be stopped if you get the gaps in the mesh the right height of the frequency.

Dunno if it reflects back into the track or just stops though.

yeah sorry about that!

But it makes us laugh when they have to start the car up to let us into the field! :woot:

big air
 

excellent news. i like the current set up but some new additions and change around is sounding good . like rob says the track can be set up a variety of ways . so sticking with current theme seems a good idea . with regards to rostrum a change so sun /weather is not in face as much is a great idea. and as for wheelchair access how about a portable mini rostron or cip together podium which could be kept in cabins and brought out when needed. i no youths are trouble but if it was not for the open access i might never have got into racing (i no fence it immediatly:D) and many other non racing rc users still enjoy the track ( sunday was fun mixed scale and fuel racing mayhem ) but either way glad the track has some life in it. paint brush ready for action rog.............

ps how about a mega jump . big air/fire pit with it being outdoor ..........

Good news about the new track, a large blank astro area would be good with sections like the old bury track, I still love the small grass bits on the old track. And a slightly lower rostrum would be better.

The number one thing will be to design it so that its both fun to race on each and every week and almost vandal proof due to the location large town/city. Also will you make sure you have a Loo for racers.

Support for your new track from a Southport member, because its will be better for the Northwest region and the hobby...

Make it big enough for 1/8th Scale :0

Ideas
 

Some good ideas and some not so good. I love the height of the rostrum and think it's a good use of the dead space on top of the container that we use for storage.as for wheel chair access I must say that even with a ramp it would have to be huge to get the angle to somthing we can push a wheel chair up it's just not feesable. Do we have a member of the club who is in a wheelchair? I've seen a bloke at chadderton who is in a wheel chair. Is he a member?

I'm sure we could rig something up for him or who ever is In a wheel chair but we could do with knowing if any people in a wheel chair want to attend our summer season.

Obviously any changes or decissions to be made to the track should be either the topic off a meeting for the bury club members or a ballet. As it is all about the members and what we want. Again I refer to last summer when some meetings was only attended by 6 racers.

Buds

+1 for that idea.

But yeh, move rostrum so sun is behind is great idea. otherwise more of the same; flowing, astro, low maintenance, nothing that can't be done by newbies and plenty of good drainage! :thumbsup:

I think i`ve been misunderstood
 

I think the free access isn`t really the way forward because Bury as a club needs members, thats what we all want when you think about it (someone to race with/against). yes/no?

If the track is accessible to everyone whenever they like ,are these people coming on race days and becoming members? yes /no?
Or to put it another way if no members couldn`t use the track whenever they liked ,would they possibly turn up on race day instead? yes/no?

How do other clubs run the track are they free at all times for anyone?

I`m not against people turning up to practice , just thinking of ways to get more members and keep the track in good condition, which would attract more racers to the venue & move Bury forward.

Its all just my opinon lads so don`t jump on this if you don`t agree!

post your ideas / opinon

Andy ;)

the track is good as it is,just lacking some maintenance,so if we could build one in the same way but with the added drainage/new bigger lengths of astro etc,plus spend an hour or two before racing on a sunday every now and again to keep it up to scratch. i think we would be onto a good venue again,how do the southport guys keep ther track so well and keep the chavs from trashing it?

It`s good news you old track is being renewed and all that, but at Southport we have one member who is in a chair and we have made a sizeable effort for him to race and built him a rostrum/ramp/platform. i do know he asked last year if any of the other north west clubs if there was facilities for him to race but none had, including southport.
He didn`t do the north west regional series in full cos of this and his own wooden platform (18" high) is very bulky to move.
I`m sure he would like to do the regionals this year.
It would also look good to the council that you catering for everyone who races if you where to ask for this facility to be included in the plans.

Hope, and don`t mean to offend anyone by posting on your thread, but just adding input to help the north west clubs.
Si.

VERY difficult to build a track for both IMHO.

G

Only Joking really, I know the 1/8th scale frighten most of you 1/10 lads :woot:

The track shouldn't be a free-for-all, it should be as it is currently. The way I understand it now, is members can (check with roger for permission) go down for a shakedown. But ultimately we all like to race, so we attend on mass to race each other and this is why the track & club exists.

I do think it needs to be harder to get in with bikes etc. But the bratts can be determined - it may cause more vandalism if we make it harder for them to climb over..

As for disabled access, im all for it, the council may be too. Perhaps a ramp zigzagging up the back or whatever, if the council are for it - they ought to be.

A hard standing for pitting by the track. No mud!

Im glad the council are doing something, just hope its plenty, it could be great for the club and continue the attendance which indoors is getting.

You mean Ballot. Or are you going to perform a moving piece of interpretive dance about how you what the new rostrum to be designed? That could be amusing to watch!

Kiss it four eyes we wasn't all university educated!!!

Thanks for that Si ! i now have an extremely funny image in my minds eye...:woot:

Andy

PMSL - nice one hahahahahah

He probably does mean ballet though---come on buds fess up:thumbsup:

Or in your case it seems trained in classical dance :p