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jimmy 08-02-2010 12:01 PM

New Schumacher CAT SX2
 
Schumacher have released news of an update to their CAT SX 4WD electric buggy - the 'SX2' features many updates to improve strength and performance that the team drivers have been testing over the last few months - notably the new 'Big Bore' dampers seen in testing and already a confirmed feature of the new Cougar SV buggy make a welcome addition to the SX2 kit.


Other updated include plastic moulded hinge pin blocks instead of the easily-bent alloy items on the previous car. These should help absorb knocks without damage and are combined with new stronger suspension arms.

  • 3 belt transmission with efficient low tension belts running on large size CNC machined pulleys.
  • Adjustable internal transmission ratio (2.2, 2.4, or 2.6:1) to optimise ratio for brushed or brushless motors.
  • Motor rotates the same direction as the wheels creating a car with superb jumping responsiveness and no torque steer effect as is common with shaft drive cars.
  • Super free ball diffs with silicone nitride balls, pro spec thrust bearing, and steel diff outputs.
  • Strong steel universal joint driveshafts.
  • Smooth twin pad slipper clutch with easy access adjustment running on a New tougher 5mm black spur gear.
  • Unique clamp motor mount to fine tune weight distribution, and allow motor changes without affecting gear mesh.
  • Industry standard wheel fittings.
  • Layshaft or front one way Speed Secret option.
  • Overdrive front pulley Speed Secret option.
  • Optimum weight distribution with stick pack lipo layout.
  • New 2.5mm aerospace grade carbon fibre chassis and top deck.
  • Horizontally split transmission housings for ease of maintenance and diff access.
  • Ultra narrow chassis design to minimise grounding on roll.
  • New Stronger front & rear wishbones.
  • New Stronger 4mm front pivot block screw.
  • New Lighter plastic eccentric housings for adjustment of belt tension and diff height.
  • Rigid servo mount directly onto transmission housing for precise steering.
  • Dirt protected with tight fitting body and undertray.
  • O ring wing mount system to avoid crash damage.
  • New Max sized rear wing.
  • Class leading suspension geometry with durable components and a range of optional alloy parts, offering adjustments to set up your CAT SX2 to any track conditions.
  • New more durable plastic pivot block system with the ability to adjust track width and toe in/toe out.
  • Adjustable rear roll centres, inboard toe-in/toe-out, anti squat and track width using optional alloy block Speed Secret parts.
  • Adjustable front roll centres, inboard toe-in/toe-out, track width and rake angle using optional alloy block Speed Secret parts.
  • New Pro spec big bore shocks with titanium nitride shafts, CNC machined pistons with recessed ‘e’clips, threaded collars, twin O ring sealing and diaphragm volume compensation.
  • Strong and rigid 4mm carbon fibre shock brackets.
  • New lighter plastic steering arms.
Check out the information page on the Schumacher site HERE

stegger 08-02-2010 12:02 PM

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: NNNIIIICCCEEEEE

jimmy 08-02-2010 12:03 PM

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car%20..._FTQL_1000.jpg

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car%20...t_sus_1000.jpg

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car%20...wheel_1000.jpg

Matt-h 08-02-2010 12:04 PM

Glad i managed to sell mine Saturday. it would be worth less today!

Dave Dodd 08-02-2010 12:14 PM

Just updated our online shop.
 
http://www.autocareandcycles.co.uk/c...f535bd78b9e4ce

will be updating our online shop with the other options ie: assembled and S1

Dave

T4miy4 Guy 08-02-2010 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kartman (Post 341443)
http://www.autocareandcycles.co.uk/c...f535bd78b9e4ce

will be updating our online shop with the other options ie: assembled and S1

Dave

Thats not a bad price for the 4WD , kinda makes the 2WD look over priced too me.

Andy

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 12:38 PM

Very nice.

The bits that interest me are:

New Lighter plastic eccentric housings for adjustment of belt tension and diff height

New Pro spec big bore shocks with titanium nitride shafts, CNC machined pistons with recessed ‘e’clips, threaded collars, twin O ring sealing and diaphragm volume compensation.

New more durable plastic pivot block system with the ability to adjust track width and toe in/toe out.

New lighter plastic steering arms.

Smooth twin pad slipper clutch with easy access adjustment running on a New tougher 5mm black spur gear. Using RW spurs, but interested in the mounting system

I'd like to know if they've changed the servo mounting system as the original I thought wasn't very good. Many other cars you just bolt the servo in on the Cat SX you've got this lining up rubbish. Too much what if on the mounting.

Glad to see the alloy mounts aren't included....

Other than that, my Cat SX has all the other bits :D

Also noticed that the Cat SX has come down in price. Doesn't bother me as Cat SX is my car for 4WD again this year.

purplenut 08-02-2010 12:40 PM

cat sc2
 
Any body want to buy a sX lol,nice looking car iam realy loving the big bore shocks,but iam saving up for a sv at mo so sx2 will have to wait...

bigred5765 08-02-2010 12:42 PM

new top deck and battery retainer to

frogger 08-02-2010 12:58 PM

Do we know when it will be available?

purplenut 08-02-2010 12:58 PM

sx2
 
yea i noticed that,they have drilled out enough room for the esc wire always was a pain,and battery bar looks wider this will also help.:thumbsup:

Dave Dodd 08-02-2010 01:08 PM

availibilty is the same as the couger sv - towards the end of March to mid April (Spring) Hopefully.. :D

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kartman (Post 341476)
availibilty is the same as the couger sv - towards the end of March to mid April (Spring) Hopefully.. :D

Going to be an expensive month with the new Cat SX bits and Cougar SV

MHeadling 08-02-2010 01:14 PM

Looks really nice, some good improvements over the original

I wonder how much it will cost to get to Sx2 spec from an original Cat??

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Headling (Post 341479)
Looks really nice, some good improvements over the original

I wonder how much it will cost to get to Sx2 spec from an original Cat??

Exactly my thought, although I already have the new stiff chassis and top deck, if they are the same.

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 01:17 PM

Just noticed the rear wishbones don't have any holes on the rear...


Godo to see the weedy rear wing has gone.

jim76 08-02-2010 01:32 PM

bit odd how the cougar S1 has cheaper shocks, but the cat S1 will have the big bores?

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 01:40 PM

Indeed, didn't spot that..

MattADH 08-02-2010 01:44 PM

The allen bolt that holds the front mount for the battery strap needs tightening!

Alfonzo 08-02-2010 01:48 PM

Don't know what they put in the water down in Northampton, but the Schumacher boys are hustling a great game right now. :thumbsup:

purplenut 08-02-2010 02:41 PM

sv & sx2
 
Ive just had conformation from schumacher that both the sc &sx2 will be relised mid to end of march.23rd would be cool as my bday :thumbsup::thumbsup:

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 02:44 PM

End of March then.... and then a question of whether they'll make enough to maintain stock levels etc.

I have also been told there won't be an upgrade pack for existing owners...

purplenut 08-02-2010 02:46 PM

upgrade
 
oh thats a real bummer well best start saving even more pennies.

burgie 08-02-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 341454)
I'd like to know if they've changed the servo mounting system as the original I thought wasn't very good. Many other cars you just bolt the servo in on the Cat SX you've got this lining up rubbish. Too much what if on the mounting.

Am I missing something here?

I bought a 2nd hand cat sx last week and installed the servo in it in about 30 seconds. Didn't have to line anything up. Two screws, and job done.

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgie (Post 341527)
Am I missing something here?

I bought a 2nd hand cat sx last week and installed the servo in it in about 30 seconds. Didn't have to line anything up. Two screws, and job done.

When I mount my Sanwa it doesn't fit perfectly between the gaps, so you end up scewing down on only a percentage of the tabs, rather than the whole tab if that makes sense.

Indeed bummer, oh well more money to spend.

burgie 08-02-2010 03:04 PM

So that would be an issue with your servo, not the cat :p.
I do understand what you mean now though!

looking at it though, with the exception of the big bore shocks, the SX2 appears to be a lesser spec'd version than the original SX, especially if you have the stegger brace on it and the modified layshaft.

Maybe the plastic hangers and diff adjusters are there to keep the cost down so the big bores can be included and the kit remain at a reasonable price.

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgie (Post 341540)
So that would be an issue with your servo, not the cat :p.
I do understand what you mean now though!

looking at it though, with the exception of the big bore shocks, the SX2 appears to be a lesser spec'd version than the original SX, especially if you have the stegger brace on it and the modified layshaft.

Maybe the plastic hangers and diff adjusters are there to keep the cost down so the big bores can be included and the kit remain at a reasonable price.

I wondered if that was the case, but the Sanwa looks the same size as the other brands with the lugs etc. May see what a Savox looks like in it from my B4.

What servo are you using?

I have thought that too as it reduces costs. Another though is they may be moving away from the spacer set-up for toe in etc. I.e. you want 3 degree toe i there will be block A, 2 degree block B and so on.

Can you take a picture of your servo mounting and sending it to me?

burgie 08-02-2010 03:33 PM

I will do....I have a Futaba s9550 in mine, it fits a treat, although prior to putting that in I trial fitted a KO and that fited fine too, but it's not as powerful as the futaba, so out it came.

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgie (Post 341556)
I will do....I have a Futaba s9550 in mine, it fits a treat, although prior to putting that in I trial fitted a KO and that fited fine too, but it's not as powerful as the futaba, so out it came.

Thanks,

If it's a better fit my Sanwa (#ERG-WZ) Digital ERG-WZ Servo will move to something else.

bigred5765 08-02-2010 04:14 PM

i have the savox in mine, but i fitted a sanwa in a friends, there is no issuse mike i can tell you that there all pretty much a std case size,

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 341580)
i have the savox in mine, but i fitted a sanwa in a friends, there is no issuse mike i can tell you that there all pretty much a std case size,

I thought they would all be a standard size. Oh well I'll just check it over again.

bigred5765 08-02-2010 04:23 PM

may be the mount or screw that holds it is bent

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 341587)
may be the mount or screw that holds it is bent

True, time for a strip and check...

Cheers,

mikeyscott 08-02-2010 04:35 PM

I see some of the parts have gone up in the listings on the Schumacher site.

Alloy Front Blocks; 7.5 deg - Cat SX2

Alloy Front Blocks; 10.5 deg - Cat SX2

Wonder what these are as compared to the original Cat SX.

It may well be cheaper to sell the existing Cat SX and get a new one than upgrade :(

David Church 08-02-2010 05:38 PM

This car looks very nice indeed:thumbsup:

mdb_75 08-02-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 341596)

It may well be cheaper to sell the existing Cat SX and get a new one than upgrade :(

I doubt it if you have the chassis already! The only other big difference is the big bore shocks, but I can't see me gaining a lot from having them. The other upgrades are just little bits and pieces that you will/can replace over time as the original bits get worn out and/or damaged.

Dazzler 08-02-2010 05:46 PM

Don't know if I've missed something - but does anyone have a comprehensive list of the differences?

mdb_75 08-02-2010 05:47 PM

I'd say it's just everything that's listed as new in the specs?

Dazzler 08-02-2010 05:57 PM

Are we looking at an advert somewhere or the Schumacher website?

mdb_75 08-02-2010 05:59 PM

First post on this thread and SX2 page on Schumachers website.


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