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DaveG28 03-02-2010 01:21 PM

2010 battery list
 
Is up...

5000mah 50C LRP Lipo's... Ridiculous, but I want!!

DaveG28 03-02-2010 01:29 PM

One of the LiFe batteries is 70C ffs!! Anyone got an estimate of what motor would be needed to counteract the lower voltage?

Tempted to try a 3.5 or similar with a LiFe pack in 2wd..

Darren Boyle 03-02-2010 02:00 PM

Some interesting names "missing" from the list too....... may surpirse a few racers who have brought in advance!

Is it me, or are the lists HUGE this year and full of some brands we have never even heard off too.

Jamie B4 03-02-2010 02:11 PM

List
 
Dave/Darren,

Where is the list and is this the official BRCA list for 2010, cant see what you are looking at??

Darren Boyle 03-02-2010 02:15 PM

Hi Jamie, yes its the official BRCA LIPO and LIFE lists for 2010 from the BRCA website (in the "Electric Board" section)

2S LIPO sticks http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...0v1%20pdf2.pdf

2S LIPO saddles http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...0v1%20pdf6.pdf

1S LIPO (1/12th etc) http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...0v1%20pdf2.pdf

2S LIFE sticks http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...0v1%20pdf3.pdf

A LOT of hard work by Paul Worsley once more it looks like...... :thumbsup:

DaveG28 03-02-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 339565)
Some interesting names "missing" from the list too....... may surpirse a few racers who have brought in advance!

Is it me, or are the lists HUGE this year and full of some brands we have never even heard off too.

They are, and they are!!

Size creep too, especiall on height of cells!

Think I know why one brand is missing, surprised about some others having no new cells!

GRIFF55 03-02-2010 02:22 PM

Not enjoying looking at that list, gona be an expensive start for me!!:(

mark christopher 03-02-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 339543)
Is up...

5000mah 50C LRP Lipo's... Ridiculous, but I want!!

5900....

DaveG28 03-02-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 339572)
Hi Jamie, yes its the official BRCA LIPO and LIFE lists for 2010 from the BRCA website (in the "Electric Board" section)

2S LIPO sticks http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...0v1%20pdf2.pdf

2S LIPO saddles http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...0v1%20pdf6.pdf

1S LIPO (1/12th etc) http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...0v1%20pdf2.pdf

2S LIFE sticks http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/n...0v1%20pdf3.pdf

A LOT of hard work by Paul Worsley once more it looks like...... :thumbsup:

yep, big thanks to Paul for working through all these!

DaveG28 03-02-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 339577)
5900....

I was looking at the saddle list, hadn't spotted those!!

Chequered Flag Racing 03-02-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 339572)


EFRA 1s LiPo list will incorparted into the BRCA list in the near future


Quote:

All the Cells that are on the EFRA 1S list will be added to the BRCA 1S list in the next few days.
Russ Giles
BRCA 1/12 Circuit Section Chairman

EFRA list is here http://news.efra.ws/fileadmin/news/2010/01/2010%20EFRA%201S%20Stick%20LiPo%20List%20V2%20pdf% 20101.pdf

MK Racing 03-02-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIFF55 (Post 339576)
Not enjoying looking at that list, gona be an expensive start for me!!:(

Looks like you will have to find a new Lipo sponsor for 2010 :cry: Should of sold them packs last week, I will give you £5 per pack :p

JohnM 03-02-2010 02:43 PM

No Trakpower Dark series, big suprise for me that one, glad I didn't get any!

chrispattinson 03-02-2010 02:45 PM

I cant see these cells offering a significant advantage on the track over my 2009 cells.
Its my first year of doing nationals (hopefully - if I get in), and Im happy with the pace of my car with my 30C 4200mah Demon cells.
Obviously theres more power available from these 2010 cells... but Im not sure it'll drop my lap times by much, unless these national tracks have huge straights....
am I right?

Or do I need to fork out for an LRP 50C pack?

DaveG28 03-02-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 339597)
I cant see these cells offering a significant advantage on the track over my 2009 cells.
Its my first year of doing nationals (hopefully - if I get in), and Im happy with the pace of my car with my 30C 4200mah Demon cells.
Obviously theres more power available from these 2010 cells... but Im not sure it'll drop my lap times by much, unless these national tracks have huge straights....
am I right?

Or do I need to fork out for an LRP 50C pack?

I seriously doubt it, there's so much spare mah that I'd have thought you can make sure you have all the power you ever need without dumping through motors/settings etc!

dibble34 03-02-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnM (Post 339593)
No Trakpower Dark series, big suprise for me that one, glad I didn't get any!

I did buy a set. I read on here somewhere that they had applied to be on it. I wonder why they are not on there, must be a reason.

MatJohnson 03-02-2010 03:57 PM

Good news for me Jamie, them 45c's I've got are legal :)

Chris Doughty 03-02-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 339597)
I cant see these cells offering a significant advantage on the track over my 2009 cells.
Its my first year of doing nationals (hopefully - if I get in), and Im happy with the pace of my car with my 30C 4200mah Demon cells.
Obviously theres more power available from these 2010 cells... but Im not sure it'll drop my lap times by much, unless these national tracks have huge straights....
am I right?

Or do I need to fork out for an LRP 50C pack?

you are completely right, in off-road you don't even use the fastest motors available. as long as you know your packs are reliable then you will be fine.

Im pretty sure ive had the fastest car on the track at a few nationals and didn't win with it

coolcars782 03-02-2010 05:23 PM

Remember Consistency not speed is better, although speed does help a bit :D

TonyM 03-02-2010 05:40 PM

B***er I bought three stick and one saddle. Got rid of my gold ones - stupid idiot!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnM (Post 339593)
No Trakpower Dark series, big suprise for me that one, glad I didn't get any!


Kopite 03-02-2010 07:08 PM

which ones are the ones missing? (or the ones people expected to be in there)

Darren Boyle 03-02-2010 10:23 PM

The most obviuos absentee is the Trakpower Darks.....

hide 03-02-2010 10:53 PM

50C SMC packs are legal, good as I was about to buy some.

budgio 04-02-2010 12:53 AM

I,m not sure if this has been asked before but will any more packs be added to the 2010 BRCA legal list over the next few weeks/months ? or is it final ?
Just curious as it seems BRCA legal brushless motors list gets updated throughout the year.

JohnM 04-02-2010 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 339822)
The most obviuos absentee is the Trakpower Darks.....

Does anyone know why this is yet? seems odd after the way they sorta facelifted the old gold ones for last years list, then made a big noise about how potent the Dark series are.

_sleigh_ 04-02-2010 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budgio (Post 339862)
I,m not sure if this has been asked before but will any more packs be added to the 2010 BRCA legal list over the next few weeks/months ? or is it final ?
Just curious as it seems BRCA legal brushless motors list gets updated throughout the year.

The battery lists (LiPo, NiMh, LiFe etc) all only get new cells added once a year, which is currently April 1st (submission deadline Dec 31st). As you rightly say, the motor lists are updated on average monthly, but can be as often as required.

_sleigh_ 04-02-2010 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnM (Post 339888)
Does anyone know why this is yet? seems odd after the way they sorta facelifted the old gold ones for last years list, then made a big noise about how potent the Dark series are.

Don't know the full reason, however they could have been oversized or even failed the safety drop test. You never know, they could have missed the Dec 31st deadline or not even submitted them.

dibble34 04-02-2010 09:35 PM

I have emailed Trakpower asking why the Dark Series are not on the list. If i get a response i'll let you know

Matt_N 04-02-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _sleigh_ (Post 339894)
Don't know the full reason, however they could have been oversized or even failed the safety drop test. You never know, they could have missed the Dec 31st deadline or not even submitted them.

Trakpower Dark's are the same as the Robitronic 5000mah 40C afaik, which is on the list :confused: Oh well, I'm not too fussed, my SMC 5200mah 50C is on the list :D

Matt

Jamie B4 05-02-2010 10:05 AM

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Major thankyou to Mr Worsley - list out in plenty of time for next season - now means there are no excuses for not being ready for oncoming 2010 nationals. Thanks Jamie

wizzykev 05-02-2010 07:38 PM

Is there anything in the rules that stops us from changing the connectors on a lipo. I've got a GM saddle pack and I want to change the connectors.

What you guys think?

Cheers

Marvin 05-02-2010 08:43 PM

Wow, a long list of made up ratings. If an LRP 40C pack doesn't compare to others' 35C packs, how can anyone expect that their 50C pack will be near accurate?

A few brands are getting guilty of this, LRP/Nosram, SMC, even (sigh...) Thunderpower...

DaveG28 05-02-2010 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvin (Post 340556)
Wow, a long list of made up ratings. If an LRP 40C pack doesn't compare to others' 35C packs, how can anyone expect that their 50C pack will be near accurate?

A few brands are getting guilty of this, LRP/Nosram, SMC, even (sigh...) Thunderpower...

Ignoring the absolute c rating for a moment, and making it absolutely clear I don't think further increases are needed performance wise, presumably they have improved the cells, or are you suggesting they are just putting them in bigger cases to trick people??

Can't see the latter, not a good sales technique to deliberately make them nit fit some cars so I'm guessing it's a necessary size increase!

Not saying it's not 30-40c rather than 40-50c mind, tbh I wouldn't know!

Benh 05-02-2010 11:06 PM

With regards to the TP Darks I am going to take punt in the dark here. Be clear, this an assumption based on ZERO fact.

I think, that they didn't submit.

Why - For the first time they used OEM, to meet the market demands, which meant (possibly) comprimising on standard. With an apparantly tight market (look how many are on the lists!), the ROI, (with assumed MOQ) was not sufficient to compromise a brand name like TP.

Why do I think the above -

Reading this: - http://www.flightpower.co.uk/ on the front page of the website. ( should it move it's here too http://www.flightpower.co.uk/newsOpe...ewsArchive.asp )

I reckon they'll re-emerge in the Track market with something exciting.

No facts, just a thought?

mark christopher 06-02-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benh (Post 340626)
With regards to the TP Darks I am going to take punt in the dark here. Be clear, this an assumption based on ZERO fact.

I think, that they didn't submit.

Why - For the first time they used OEM, to meet the market demands, which meant (possibly) comprimising on standard. With an apparantly tight market (look how many are on the lists!), the ROI, (with assumed MOQ) was not sufficient to compromise a brand name like TP.

Why do I think the above -

Reading this: - http://www.flightpower.co.uk/ on the front page of the website. ( should it move it's here too http://www.flightpower.co.uk/newsOpe...ewsArchive.asp )

I reckon they'll re-emerge in the Track market with something exciting.

No facts, just a thought?

totally wrong sorry (apart from your last sentance in bold)

there is a clue in the latest RRCI advert!
as and when i can say more i will

Jackal 06-02-2010 11:00 AM

wonder when trakpower are going to explain to everyone who bought the dark series why they cant use them at the nationals or euros or regionals or any sanctioned event and what they intend to do about it.

sldmodels 06-02-2010 11:22 AM

At least as far as Trakpower goes, there's been a management buyout, so that could have caused problems for submitting cells.

I know there should be some LRP micro lipos on there at some point, but at the submission date, SMD we're out of stock on them so couldn't submit them at the time, but I think they'd gotten the paperwork sorted, so hopefully they should be added at some point this year.

You could ask Paul why a certain lipo isn't on the list, but I'd think the obvious reason would be that it wasn't submitted or failed the test, and I think Paul might be a bit too happy to field hundreds of emails from angry racers.

mark christopher 06-02-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackal (Post 340730)
wonder when trakpower are going to explain to everyone who bought the dark series why they cant use them at the nationals or euros or regionals or any sanctioned event and what they intend to do about it.

ask the question........... were they advertized as being BRCA legal?

Answer No, as every one says every year, You have to wait for the list to be sure!

Jackal 06-02-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sldmodels (Post 340739)
At least as far as Trakpower goes, there's been a management buyout, so that could have caused problems for submitting cells.

I know there should be some LRP micro lipos on there at some point, but at the submission date, SMD we're out of stock on them so couldn't submit them at the time, but I think they'd gotten the paperwork sorted, so hopefully they should be added at some point this year.

You could ask Paul why a certain lipo isn't on the list, but I'd think the obvious reason would be that it wasn't submitted or failed the test, and I think Paul might be a bit too happy to field hundreds of emails from angry racers.

you cant add lipos throughout the year, the list is fixed now. i know why the dark series are not on the list, the question is what are trak power going to do about the unhappy and out of pocket customers?

mark christopher 06-02-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sldmodels (Post 340739)
At least as far as Trakpower goes, there's been a management buyout, so that could have caused problems for submitting cells.

I know there should be some LRP micro lipos on there at some point, but at the submission date, SMD we're out of stock on them so couldn't submit them at the time, but I think they'd gotten the paperwork sorted, so hopefully they should be added at some point this year.

You could ask Paul why a certain lipo isn't on the list, but I'd think the obvious reason would be that it wasn't submitted or failed the test, and I think Paul might be a bit too happy to field hundreds of emails from angry racers.

lipo list is done once a year, next time anything is added will be this time next year


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