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paulc 01-02-2010 05:46 PM

front axles
 
hi

not to impressed with having to grind down the front axles so it would fit in the box at the worksop meeting i need to grind more off but need some low profile lock nuts whats everybody using ?

cheers paul

jimmy 01-02-2010 05:48 PM

I'm using hotbodies serrated nuts.

Diesel 01-02-2010 06:22 PM

I use Core RC serrated nuts

chris68nufc 04-02-2010 09:23 PM

Any ideas if there are new ones coming out to satisfy 'The Box'??

Northy 05-02-2010 09:10 AM

New what? :confused:

chris68nufc 05-02-2010 05:34 PM

God damn new front axels Mr North. Did your Durango fit in the box without the need of a dremel??

paulc 05-02-2010 05:47 PM

i don't think they'll bring new axles out im off to get myself a dremel i thought them days where over after getting rid of the x6 !

MALLET 05-02-2010 05:49 PM

Andy will have some core low profile nuts at Worksop Sunday Lads

paulc 05-02-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MALLET (Post 340450)
Andy will have some core low profile nuts at Worksop Sunday Lads

they need dremelling down too :(

MALLET 05-02-2010 06:21 PM

I don't think so as the clue is in the name, they are Core low profile

paulc 05-02-2010 06:41 PM

i have them on my car it still gets stuck in the box

MALLET 05-02-2010 06:46 PM

is it getting stuck with the tyres or axles.

Did you try the box with no wheels on?

paulc 05-02-2010 06:53 PM

it's getting stuck on the axles / wheel nuts yes the wheels were on

MALLET 05-02-2010 06:57 PM

Did you try the box without the wheels, as the schewy rubber hangs over the rim more one way than the other. If you glue them with the writing to the inside then they don't hang over too much

Northy 05-02-2010 07:08 PM

It's not the rubber fouling......

G

DCM 05-02-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 340489)
It's not the rubber fouling......

G

nothing worse than getting your rubber fouled and chafed!!! :woot:

paulc 05-02-2010 07:18 PM

i have the writing on the tyre to the outside and the wheel nut sticks out another 2 to 3mm ish past that when it's in the box you can hear metal on metal rubbing so it is the axle/wheelnut catching

mark christopher 05-02-2010 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MALLET (Post 340450)
Andy will have some core low profile nuts at Worksop Sunday Lads

i would have had loads, ordered 200 nuts, will be £1.50 for 4 or £2.50 for 8, but my supplier let me down and not getting them till monday.:thumbdown:

mine fitted in the box using these and my dremel.

there were some not very observant durango owners at the worksop do then ;)

telboy 05-02-2010 08:20 PM

It is annoying, I had to do it for the F345's. Its borderline at the moment. but just about passable. Spent more time getting it legal, than concentrating on set-up. lol

DCM 05-02-2010 08:34 PM

to be fair, on a car costing £450, it should fit in the box, no dremmeling at all...

chris68nufc 05-02-2010 08:38 PM

This is why i have post regarding new axels. Surely Durango care if its a design mistake. I think we should all be given the new ones for free.
I dont think that there is an advantage to be had with the cars front end but a rule is a rule.
Did anybody get refused for scrutineering at last weeks event with a Durango?

MALLET 05-02-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 340521)

mine fitted in the box using these and my dremel.

there were some not very observant durango owners at the worksop do then ;)

Mark knows I dremelled someone's shaft down Sunday :blush: :D :D

paulc 05-02-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 340547)
to be fair, on a car costing £450, it should fit in the box, no dremmeling at all...

totally agree

chris68nufc 05-02-2010 08:46 PM

You have got to get grief about that statement Mallet:D

MALLET 05-02-2010 08:50 PM

I was waiting for you to chirp up Chris :p :woot: :woot:

Adam Skelding 05-02-2010 09:00 PM

Ok.
The second batch of kits onwards have shorter CVD axles on the front. All these have are shorter threaded ends than the 'old' versions

Stack up of tolerances on the components can make some cars tight, so dremelling of the end has been necessary to some cars.

I ran mine at the Euro's, 3 nationals and a regional without it failing scrutineering.

I guess since the car has come to the fore in the 'off' season where scrutineering isn't so 'popular' then the problem has been 'masked'.

We're testing some low profile nuts at the moment. So we'll have some of these out soon.

Like we've said before if you have an issue with your kit please get in contact with us, or speak to one of the Team drivers, that's what we're here for.

I know for a fact that other manufacturers cars failed on a similar issue and one of them costs more than ours ;) and it has less driveshafts ;)

Takes2home 05-02-2010 11:50 PM

Hi guys, sorry for my stupid question: but what is "the box"? What do you mean with the writing on the inside/out side?
I am just curios.
Ps i don t know if it helps but the tresrey axle have a shorter tread and the nuts are flat..more than the stock durango wheel nuts.
Bye

paulc 06-02-2010 12:39 AM

at regional and national BRCA events the cars have to fit in a box and be over a certain wieght to be legal and durango don't quite fit in the box without abit of dremel work on the axles/wheelnuts

i take it you mean the writing on the tyre just to say what it is eg schumacher minispike

and the tresrey axles would work but may need abit of dremel work

cheers paul

mark christopher 06-02-2010 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MALLET (Post 340555)
Mark knows I dremelled someone's shaft down Sunday :blush: :D :D

shhh dont own up to somin like that lol

mark christopher 06-02-2010 11:03 AM

i had to dremel 3mm bout off mine
once the old ones are reworked with a dremel the mk2 versions are physically then the same as you have?

is this not "model" car racing?

As part of being a modeller, dont you change,alter,rework stuff for your own benift?


does efra/ifmar etc all run the same width rule?

JohnM 06-02-2010 11:25 AM

And who is to say that the box is the right size? I know of someone many moons ago, bought a Bosscat, totaly standard kit, kit wheels, Schumacher tyres etc, and it didn't fit in our region's box, so he got a metal bar made to the BRCA width, tries it in the box, guess what? the box was too small:bored: maybe the same thing is happing now, lets face it, the boxes are probably pretty old by now, things get knocked about a bit over time.

mark christopher 06-02-2010 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnM (Post 340740)
And who is to say that the box is the right size? I know of someone many moons ago, bought a Bosscat, totaly standard kit, kit wheels, Schumacher tyres etc, and it didn't fit in our region's box, so he got a metal bar made to the BRCA width, tries it in the box, guess what? the box was too small:bored: maybe the same thing is happing now, lets face it, the boxes are probably pretty old by now, things get knocked about a bit over time.

bet you darent challeng mr Worsley with that one... it was the national alloy box in use!

Northy 06-02-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnM (Post 340740)
And who is to say that the box is the right size? I know of someone many moons ago, bought a Bosscat, totaly standard kit, kit wheels, Schumacher tyres etc, and it didn't fit in our region's box, so he got a metal bar made to the BRCA width, tries it in the box, guess what? the box was too small:bored: maybe the same thing is happing now, lets face it, the boxes are probably pretty old by now, things get knocked about a bit over time.

Step away from the keyboard, trust me, the box IS correct. You don't even want to go down the "the box is not right" route ;)

G

mark christopher 06-02-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 340751)
Step away from the keyboard, trust me, the box IS correct. You don't even want to go down the "the box is not right" route ;)

G

i tried lol :woot:
did not get very far :cry:

Takes2home 06-02-2010 01:18 PM

Thank you for the information about the box.
Here is a picture with the difference between Tresrey and Team Durango axle and wheel nut.
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...44_700_525.jpg

DCM 06-02-2010 01:24 PM

3mm is more than a cumulation of tolerances.... if that is both sides, thats a 1/4" in total...

paulc 06-02-2010 01:29 PM

takes2home

yes i think alot of people are changing to the low profile serrated nut but even that needs alittle bit grinding of it

samd 06-02-2010 02:58 PM

No excuse for a top end race car not to be made within the rules, or new correct parts be supplied to 'kit 1' buyers free of charge.

mark christopher 06-02-2010 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulc (Post 340782)
takes2home

yes i think alot of people are changing to the low profile serrated nut but even that needs alittle bit grinding of it

my nuts were ok!!

HyperFX 07-02-2010 03:02 AM

OK. So what, exactly, is the maximum allowable width?


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