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Lee Martin 29-01-2010 10:36 AM

Hello
 
Hi guys, i would just like to welcome myself into the Tamiya forum seeing as im now allowed to talk about it! ;-)

Just like to say if you have any questions you think i could help with, please go ahead and ask, Im learning as you lot do, so it will be fun!

Also watch this space for a new and exciting venture im on! :p

Lee

DCM 29-01-2010 10:58 AM

Yeah, can you ask Tamiya to make some rear springs, 10mm shorter!! :woot:

Lee Martin 29-01-2010 11:24 AM

Called a pair of side cutters!

DCM 29-01-2010 11:26 AM

Sacrilega, cutting Tamiya stuff to bits :woot: :lol:

Fredrik Emilsson 29-01-2010 01:25 PM

You are very welcome to the Tamiya forum Lee!:)

94eg! 29-01-2010 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pidge (Post 337630)
Called a pair of side cutters!

Removing coils increases the spring rate exponentially...

trf14 30-01-2010 08:31 AM

Hi Lee, Welcome in the world of Tamiya :-)

Last yr ended 4th in Kampenhout with the 501x in our Belgium championship and this yr I will do full championship.
Are you coming to the GP ?
Keep you posed on settings , findings etc...
Cheers
RUdi

mole2k 30-01-2010 04:50 PM

Hello!

chrispattinson 30-01-2010 08:59 PM

Welcome... and looking forward to some Tamiya development, and UK Tamiya advice / support.

So, about additional caster on the 511.............when will that be available?

94eg! 30-01-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 338060)
Welcome... and looking forward to some Tamiya development, and UK Tamiya advice / support.

So, about additional caster on the 511.............when will that be available?

You can get the 12* aluminum caster block from Tamiya. Standard kit ones are 10*...

pugs 30-01-2010 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94eg! (Post 338062)
You can get the 12* aluminum caster block from Tamiya. Standard kit ones are 10*...

511 kit plastic are 12, but the others are 14 degrees;) trf501x kit is 10.

T4miy4 Guy 30-01-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pidge (Post 337618)
Hi guys, i would just like to welcome myself into the Tamiya forum seeing as im now allowed to talk about it! ;-)

Just like to say if you have any questions you think i could help with, please go ahead and ask, Im learning as you lot do, so it will be fun!

Also watch this space for a new and exciting venture im on! :p

Lee


Greetings:D

Andy

Fredrik Emilsson 30-01-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugs (Post 338080)
511 kit plastic are 12, but the others are 14 degrees;) trf501x kit is 10.

Which ones are 14 degrees?

The optional alu caster blocks are 10 and 12 degrees.

94eg! 30-01-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugs (Post 338080)
511 kit plastic are 12, but the others are 14 degrees;) trf501x kit is 10.

511 kit plastic block is the DB01 carbon upgrade part 54034. This is a 10* block. If the 511 has more than 10* of caster stock, it's due to kickup in the front arm mounts, but I see your point...

GRIFF55 30-01-2010 11:09 PM

It is the 10 and 12 deg blocks available in alloy. i always believed that 10 came as std.
loving my 511 more every race!!!:thumbsup:

JohnM 31-01-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94eg! (Post 337878)
Removing coils increases the spring rate exponentially...

Got to love that, somebody trying to correct a double National Champion!

showtime 31-01-2010 03:30 PM

yes, but 94eg is correct :thumbsup:

94eg! 31-01-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnM (Post 338185)
Got to love that, somebody trying to correct a double National Champion!

Do your research for yourself next time... :p

ex-sco77morgan 01-02-2010 07:34 AM

Calm down fellas back on topic.

Hello MATE looks like your going to have the fastest Trf511 on the track this year BUT your going to have to settle for 2nd, in best looking !!

Bling-tastic.......... ;)

Lee Martin 01-02-2010 08:49 AM

griffs aint that pretty!!!! hahahaha!!!

correct EG94, although having a lower car is better than having a high one with permenately compressed springs, in relation making them stiffer

:-p

ex-sco77morgan 01-02-2010 09:07 AM

So from the above posts, what's the advise? Cut or not to cut, that is the Question !!

jondell 01-02-2010 09:19 AM

Spring to long and car to high.... Cut

chrispattinson 01-02-2010 09:26 AM

Can someone clarify which caster blocks are 14 degree? I am running alloy 12deg blocks at the moment:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXVRC2&P=OW


However, I'd like to try 14 deg blocks.

Lee Martin 01-02-2010 11:14 AM

they will have 14 engraved on them like the 12's have.

chrispattinson 01-02-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pidge (Post 338550)
they will have 14 engraved on them like the 12's have.

Doh! Thanks. . . . . Ill get my coat.

94eg! 01-02-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pidge (Post 338496)
griffs aint that pretty!!!! hahahaha!!!

correct EG94, although having a lower car is better than having a high one with permenately compressed springs, in relation making them stiffer

:-p

Compressing (increasing pre-load) a spring does not make it stiffer, it only increases your ride height. Instead of cutting the springs, it would be much better to simply remove the adjustable spring perch, or cut the lower ball-cups. Either of these will move the upper & lower spring perches further away from eachother to lower the car. Without any preload at full droop, your springs would constantly fall off the upper perch and get stuck.

The truth is we NEED different springs. Tamiya should come out with a DB01 spring set for the rear that are the same/similar rates, but slightly shorter overall. That would solve all our problems...

BTW: What's the part number for the 14* caster blocks?

Lee Martin 01-02-2010 03:55 PM

you can start cutting and changing, personally im gonig to cut the spring!
As i did at petit and that did not make the car worse...it made it better.......

So with my experience, although yes it will increase the rate of the spring. the effect is worth it.

DCM 01-02-2010 03:59 PM

or just use AE springs, like I do....

Lee Martin 01-02-2010 04:11 PM

that does not really work either, when i used to cut down the springs on the rear of my B44 to get it to the correct height............................................ ...........................

i dont like the idea of taking out the threaded collar, as you cannot make fine adjustments easily!

MHeadling 01-02-2010 04:37 PM

Pidge do you run a lipo retainer on your 511? Or did you servo tape the lipo to the battery strap?

Look forward to a rude bits tray, the one on my B44 is ace!

Lee Martin 01-02-2010 04:39 PM

i use a retainer right now.
works really well and still retains the flex.

DaveG28 01-02-2010 05:51 PM

Guys, on the above topics:

1. I'm 99% sure kit castor block is 10 degree. Option aluminium is available in 10 or 12 degree. 12's have it written on, 10's don't. Not sure if Pidge has special bits (in the past the team guys have ran 1 degree rear hubs which have never been released!) but no 14 degree blocks are available as far as I can see?

2. Rear springs. The alternative to cutting springs is to use the associated plastic shock collar as it's much thinner. I use this and just set my front ride height around it. As Pidge says the disadvantage is it's not adjustable, I have instances where I get the rear kicking up due to being too low! Plus blue bling is always better!!

Fredrik Emilsson 01-02-2010 08:18 PM

There are no 14 degree castor blocks, not yet anyway. Lee wrote "they will have" meaning they maybe will be released?

The 0.5 degree rear hubs that Hupo used on his 501X was replaced with a new rear suspension mount on the 511.
The 511 rear susp. mount gives more toe-in than the 501X rear susp. mount. 511 has 3.3 degrees I believe.

pugs 01-02-2010 09:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 94eg! (Post 338101)
511 kit plastic block is the DB01 carbon upgrade part 54034. This is a 10* block. If the 511 has more than 10* of caster stock, it's due to kickup in the front arm mounts, but I see your point...

really? I think it's 12*,for all the people who don't believe me then see the attached photo, it's very noticeable if you have a good look at the bottom lug where the king pin go's in.....and Mr Tamiya Amish you should know this!!!!:lol: 501x is on the left and yes the pin through the hub carriers is a neat fit.

DaveG28 03-02-2010 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugs (Post 338885)
really? I think it's 12*,for all the people who don't believe me then see the attached photo, it's very noticeable if you have a good look at the bottom lug where the king pin go's in.....and Mr Tamiya Amish you should know this!!!!:lol: 501x is on the left and yes the pin through the hub carriers is a neat fit.

Hmm good spot, I knew the design had changed but thought they had simply changed the top camber link and "sleeved" the driveshaft, not adjusted the castor!!


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