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jimmy 27-01-2010 11:09 AM

Schumacher Cougar SV photos and info
 
Schumacher said they wanted to keep the Cougar SV for the upcoming Nuremberg Toyfair - but someone got impatient and released a couple of teaser shots to whet the appitite!

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/sv01.jpg

The new mid-motor 2WD Cougar SV will come with the new PTFE coated 13mm 'big bore' dampers which have been tested on the CAT SX over recent months. The car can use stick or saddle-type lipo batteries. A 'reversed' motor position and multi-gear gearbox help put the power down.

We're also told the car features industry standard wheel fitment - though the front wheel fitment isn't clear yet.

The car also features what Schumacher are calling a 'constant radius steering system'.

The bodyshell looks like a throwback to the older cougars but features a built-in gear cover for the new mid-motor layout. A huge rear wing is nice change from the weedy CAT SX one and an undertray helps seal things up from the elements.


jimmy 27-01-2010 11:17 AM

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/sv01x.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/sv02.jpg

Chris Doughty 27-01-2010 11:22 AM

if the front wheels are B4 fitment then we should finally see some wheels that schumacher front tires fit on without bead trimming :woot:

ian h 27-01-2010 11:22 AM

Sweet!!! When can I get 1?????

IceMike 27-01-2010 11:23 AM

Ok now im defo changing my 2wd!!

Jamie B4 27-01-2010 11:23 AM

Schumacher
 
Car looks very inpressive and should be awesome - even better with an all orange body shell - what do you think Jonesy

c0sie 27-01-2010 11:31 AM

Does anyone know any prices for this at all?
Ive heard that there will be 4 versions of the Cougar, but dont quote me on that (who am I, eh :D)

mikeyscott 27-01-2010 11:57 AM

I reckon it'll be north of £250

I assume there will be the S1 and full Phil Booth style editions again.

raine 27-01-2010 12:07 PM

anyone wants ab b4 ft , hrhr ;)

mikeyscott 27-01-2010 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raine (Post 336773)
anyone wants ab b4 ft , hrhr ;)

Keeping my B4 as they are cheap and parts are cheap

GRIFF55 27-01-2010 12:11 PM

Looks nice, good to see they put new tyres on for this ones release pics, lol.
Black and gold looks good too

c0sie 27-01-2010 12:12 PM

Jim, you oughta get Schumacher to fly you over to the Nuremburg show :D

bigred5765 27-01-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net (Post 336750)
if the front wheels are B4 fitment then we should finally see some wheels that schumacher front tires fit on without bead trimming :woot:

according to the web site front and rear wheels are industry standard so ae rims should fit and vice versa

jono83 27-01-2010 12:47 PM

i will defo be having one...

tony12795 27-01-2010 01:08 PM

Don't think the front wheels will fit the B4 as Shumacher use metric ball bearings.

tony12795 27-01-2010 01:12 PM

Looks like you will have to buy CF links for the camber positions... Like the CAT SX

kitesurfer73 27-01-2010 01:14 PM

x6
 
Am keeping my x6:thumbsup: till the hype calm's down, then take a look maybe...

bigred5765 27-01-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony12795 (Post 336805)
Don't think the front wheels will fit the B4 as Shumacher use metric ball bearings.

wana put money on it:woot:

Gaz_Stanton 27-01-2010 01:32 PM

Does the minipins and timing of this release point to a debut this weekend?...

mikeyscott 27-01-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz_Stanton (Post 336814)
Does the minipins and timing of this release point to a debut this weekend?...

BRCA indoor even isnt' it at Worksop?

Evsie 27-01-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitesurfer73 (Post 336808)
Am keeping my x6:thumbsup: till the hype calm's down, then take a look maybe...

I agree with you mate.

Spoolio 27-01-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIFF55 (Post 336775)
Black and gold looks good too

Until you see they've left in the bloody purple bits too. Still I guess the fact they are willing to consider other colours is a start :p.

SHY 27-01-2010 01:46 PM

Sweet! I'd only wish they'd drop that purple anodizing! It reminds me too much of old Serpent fuel track cars and Mega engines... :cry:

And it's kinda gay... :p

c0sie 27-01-2010 02:04 PM

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1681/logo4r.jpg http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/849...svlogo1000.jpg

I feel like the micro forum has influenced this new Cougar in some way :thumbsup: lol

tony12795 27-01-2010 02:30 PM

Arr right so what you’re saying Schumacher have used imperial BBs. That’s not like Schumacher.....
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I would put money on it but you still owe me £35 !!!!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 336809)
wana put money on it:woot:


bigred5765 27-01-2010 02:45 PM

im saying nothing but double or quits

Slyp Dawg 27-01-2010 02:59 PM

when I first saw that front bulkhead, I thought this was going to be a 4WD with 2wd buggy levels of front end kickup. seriously, that bulkhead is gigantic! you could just about fit a small differential in there.

that being said, this thing looks properly awesome and if they'd just drop the purple ano in favor of a nice crimson/blood red, it would look absolutely sinister

c0sie 27-01-2010 03:03 PM

Just out of interest...why do 2WD buggies have so much castor in comparison to 4WD buggies?

Chris Doughty 27-01-2010 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 336856)
Just out of interest...why do 2WD buggies have so much castor in comparison to 4WD buggies?

I don't know for sure, but I would say with the weight balance of a 4WD (forwards) running that much kick-up (not just caster) it would be GTi'ing like a beast! (lifting the inside rear going into the corner)

with a 2WD the weight it much further back so transfering the weight forward into the corner is normally a good thing.

just a little interweb engineer theory of mine

(to do with kick-up not caster - Id assume that extreme caster is a by-product of this)

c0sie 27-01-2010 03:14 PM

Your a clever sod Doughty :)
Thanks for the reply :)

Chris Doughty 27-01-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 336863)
Your a clever sod Doughty :)
Thanks for the reply :)

I'm just good at justifying my thoughts, they may not be right... :woot:

tony12795 27-01-2010 03:32 PM

Any other thoughts ??

1/10th this year ?

Chris Doughty 27-01-2010 03:45 PM

I'm actually really impressed with the looks of this, I'd say Schumacher have pulled a blinder here.

interested to see where things have ended up inside

bigred5765 27-01-2010 03:49 PM

Doughty for A Team position 4, I say

Chris Doughty 27-01-2010 04:01 PM

tempted to write Schumacher in my signature line for a laugh :woot:

jimmy 27-01-2010 04:04 PM

It's a lovely looking car alright. Those front arms give it a really unique look - a bit like the prototype Kyosho RB5 that they ran at the Worlds 2005.
My first guess would have been that the angle allowed the front shocks to sit lower but it's hard to tell if that's the case anyway.

I guess the front bulkhead is so big maybe to contain the steering? or just to make the shock tower a lot smaller / less prone to damage?

mikeyscott 27-01-2010 04:06 PM

I'd love to know what software they use to design it and wheather they use any HPC kit for simulations etc.

Fabs 27-01-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 336882)
It's a lovely looking car alright. Those front arms give it a really unique look - a bit like the prototype Kyosho RB5 that they ran at the Worlds 2005.
My first guess would have been that the angle allowed the front shocks to sit lower but it's hard to tell if that's the case anyway.

I guess the front bulkhead is so big maybe to contain the steering? or just to make the shock tower a lot smaller / less prone to damage?

I'd say you're bang on the money, it looks to me like the so called constant radius steering is a schuey way to say the steering is 'reversed'. I.e. The pivot is at the front inside the bulkhead and the rack behind. That'd free some space for the servo in front of the pack, and also will make sure the inner wheel doesn't wobble at full lock. Of course it also totally changes the ackermann so I'm curious to see the car in the flesh.

Looks to me like b4 style wheels, so imperial bearing I. The wheels, but most certainly metric everywhere else.

Fabs 27-01-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 336886)
I'd love to know what software they use to design it and wheather they use any HPC kit for simulations etc.

It's called pbb and you can only get it at Schumacher... Because it's not been designed with cad, phil does everything on the drawing board.

Chris Ashton 27-01-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 336893)
It's called pbb and you can only get it at Schumacher... Because it's not been designed with cad, phil does everything on the drawing board.

:eh?:


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