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IceMike 21-01-2010 10:37 PM

Help!!- I span my real car :(
 
Just got home from a nites racing, and being tired i was drivin wot i would call like a granny and keeping the revs low. Got almost home and there is a small round about and as i went round it the back end of my focus let go and span 180 around into a kirb. There was a bang but im not sure if it was just from the tire hitting the kirb or wot, i cant tell cos its dark. the kirb was one of them angled ones, and i cant feel any dent marks on the alloy, but wot else should i look out for or try and listen for to see if ive done any damage. i know i should book it into a garage to get checked but i dont have any time this week.

Battle_axe 21-01-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by IceMike (Post 334312)
Just got home from a nites racing, and being tired i was drivin wot i would call like a granny and keeping the revs low. Got almost home and there is a small round about and as i went round it the back end of my focus let go and span 180 around into a kirb. There was a bang but im not sure if it was just from the tire hitting the kirb or wot, i cant tell cos its dark. the kirb was one of them angled ones, and i cant feel any dent marks on the alloy, but wot else should i look out for or try and listen for to see if ive done any damage. i know i should book it into a garage to get checked but i dont have any time this week.

get it jacked up and rock the wheel in and out to feel for ant play in the bearings also i would guess you will get a whining sound when driving if you have done more damage

matdodd 21-01-2010 10:50 PM

Just check the wheel/tyre and hub mate, if you hit it hard it should be easy to see most problems in the light.
Good job by the way :thumbsup: It was very wet on the way back you must of been driving the Focus like your buggy!

matdodd 21-01-2010 10:52 PM

O ye you could ask Stan hes a expert at hitting kirbs ;)

MikePimlott 21-01-2010 10:53 PM

When you spun did you drive it home afterwards ????

Jonesy 21-01-2010 11:04 PM

Dude, what you playing at!

Hope it all works out ok :thumbsup:

IceMike 21-01-2010 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MikePimlott (Post 334332)
When you spun did you drive it home afterwards ????


yer i drove it home but its less than a mile and it ant the best of roads after all this weather so its hard to tell if the car was handling weird

IceMike 21-01-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonesy (Post 334337)
Dude, what you playing at!

Hope it all works out ok :thumbsup:

its stupid i was tryin to save money and drive abit more economically, but i was only gettin another 2mpg, bollocks to taht in that future ill wrag its tits off again, seems like a far safer way to drive

ben 21-01-2010 11:54 PM

Check the steering arm isnt bent..
Also the wheel may look undamaged, but if it has been into the curb sideways hard enough it will of bent the wheel from the centre. Making it scrap, nothing you can do to bent it back :cry: ( i have got a slight bit of knowledge in the wheel deparment haha!)

I nearly spun the corsa earlier, thought i could beat this lass to the roundabout in actual fact i couldnt, i came into the roundabout pretty much completely sideways at about 40.. then sideways the other way on the way out! Anybody watching would of thought i did it on purpose! :woot:
I must remove the shit £35 tyres :(

Jonesy 22-01-2010 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 334369)

I must remove the shit £35 tyres :(


Or you could drive normal?

DCM 22-01-2010 12:07 AM

And you wonder why insurance is high....

DCM 22-01-2010 12:08 AM

double post... doh!

poopers 22-01-2010 12:16 AM

Keep an eye out for the wheel bearings on the corner/side of impact, I damaged mine avoiding some idiot pulling out of a road without looking, put the car well up on two wheels that did. If you hear a deepish rumble it can be those.

I did the same thing before Christmas, 2nd gear on a roundabout just pootling along and the car spun around and just kept sliding straight off at the exit, finding myself broadside across a dual carriage way (Good thing it was 6.00am). I parked up thinking I had an oil leak, only to watch the next car do the same, turns out there was diesel all over the place.

ben 22-01-2010 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonesy (Post 334370)
Or you could drive normal?

Always a possibility :)

cjm_2008 22-01-2010 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IceMike (Post 334347)
bollocks to taht in that future ill wrag its tits off again, seems like a far safer way to drive

good luck with that.

Jonesy 22-01-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 334377)
Always a possibility :)


Never with you BJam :woot:

Chrislong 22-01-2010 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 334369)
Check the steering arm isnt bent..
Also the wheel may look undamaged, but if it has been into the curb sideways hard enough it will of bent the wheel from the centre. Making it scrap, nothing you can do to bent it back :cry: ( i have got a slight bit of knowledge in the wheel deparment haha!)

Ben,
How about hitting the same kerb at same speed again in the hope of hitting opposite side of wheel, then that'd level it out - although change the offset a tad.

If wheel was bent, itd shake the car about at speed, perhaps at more than 30-40mph though.

Get a long broom handle and rest it against the wheel and see where it points, then do same on the other side, it ought to be the same unless it has been damaged. My Focus ST170 had 4 wheel tracking so I presume yours will, so if it is out it is easily put right at a garage able to do 4 wheel alignment (not necessarily Kwik Fit though). A four wheel alignment may be worthwhile anyway.

mark christopher 22-01-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IceMike (Post 334312)
Just got home from a nites racing, and being tired i was drivin wot i would call like a granny and keeping the revs low. Got almost home and there is a small round about and as i went round it the back end of my focus let go and span 180 around into a kirb. There was a bang but im not sure if it was just from the tire hitting the kirb or wot, i cant tell cos its dark. the kirb was one of them angled ones, and i cant feel any dent marks on the alloy, but wot else should i look out for or try and listen for to see if ive done any damage. i know i should book it into a garage to get checked but i dont have any time this week.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben (Post 334369)
Check the steering arm isnt bent..
Also the wheel may look undamaged, but if it has been into the curb sideways hard enough it will of bent the wheel from the centre. Making it scrap, nothing you can do to bent it back :cry: ( i have got a slight bit of knowledge in the wheel deparment haha!)

I nearly spun the corsa earlier, thought i could beat this lass to the roundabout in actual fact i couldnt, i came into the roundabout pretty much completely sideways at about 40.. then sideways the other way on the way out! Anybody watching would of thought i did it on purpose! :woot:
I must remove the shit £35 tyres :(

Ben unless you know somin i dont, focus steers from the front!!


IceMike

normal thing that bends is the hub/ supension arms, as the arms are only pressed steel, as Chris said it has adjustable rear wheel tracking, so your best bet is to get it 4 wheel aligned by a good garage that has a good 4 wheel alignment system, that way they can also check the wheel is not bent as its part of setting the machine to the car.

MatJohnson 22-01-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 334369)
Check the steering arm isnt bent..

it was the back of the car you wanged wasn't it?

Just a visual check on it, check the alloy, the sills should be fine and get your head under the back end to see if the wishbones are straight.

Open the boot and have a bounce about on it to make sure the suspension travel isn't damaged and go to a car park, full lock one way, full lock the other way and see what happens (slowly).

More than likely it would have done your tracking in. Just take it to ATS or somit and ask them to check it, should be free, just don't tell them why :)

ben 22-01-2010 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=mark christopher;334418]Ben unless you know somin i dont, focus steers from the front!!QUOTE]


Note to self: Read posts properly :blush: What a pleb :woot:

rcracer 22-01-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 334369)

I nearly spun the corsa earlier, thought i could beat this lass to the roundabout in actual fact i couldnt, i came into the roundabout pretty much completely sideways at about 40.. then sideways the other way on the way out! Anybody watching would of thought i did it on purpose! :woot:
I must remove the shit £35 tyres :(

Might be better to remove the shit driver :thumbsup:

mark christopher 22-01-2010 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=ben;334618]
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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 334418)
Ben unless you know somin i dont, focus steers from the front!!QUOTE]


Note to self: Read posts properly :blush: What a pleb :woot:

well technically it did steer from the rear..... into the kerb :woot:

wacattack 22-01-2010 09:00 PM

Ben, you worry me with the stories you have about driving on the road. Just be careful mate

cjm_2008 22-01-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wacattack (Post 334700)
Ben, you worry me with the stories you have about driving on the road. Just be careful mate

+1.

I never thought i'd ever see myself type this - but WTF?

the public highway isn't a playground. a car is a lethal weapon. it's pretty easy to kill or maim yourself, your passengers, and any poor sod who happened to be around at the time. and even if no one gets hurt, you'll end up with a sizeable bill, a potential dangerous driving charge, points, crazy insurance premiums and no job if your work depended on you being able to get around.

sorry to bring this thread down to earth.

if you really want to explore the limits of a vehicle, do a trackday - it's a controlled environment.

I ride 20k a year and see people driving like bellends - and it really gets my goat :yawn:

ashleyb4 22-01-2010 09:11 PM

It gets on my tits as buys get in car driving like nutter thinking there on NFS and crash which drives up insurance for anyone else.

A

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Originally Posted by cjm_2008 (Post 334705)
+1.

I never thought i'd ever see myself type this - but WTF?

the public highway isn't a playground. a car is a lethal weapon. it's pretty easy to kill or maim yourself, your passengers, and any poor sod who happened to be around at the time. and even if no one gets hurt, you'll end up with a sizeable bill, a potential dangerous driving charge, points, crazy insurance premiums and no job if your work depended on you being able to get around.

sorry to bring this thread down to earth.

if you really want to explore the limits of a vehicle, do a trackday - it's a controlled environment.

I ride 20k a year and see people driving like bellends - and it really gets my goat :yawn:


General Accident 22-01-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 334369)
thought i could beat this lass to the roundabout in actual fact i couldnt

Wow Ben, I bet she was well impressed at your ace stunt display, did she give you her number :lol:. Seriously though, major brain fade going on there fella - just think what would have happened if you'd lost it, crashed into her and then had your parents facing off to her parents in A&E (especially if one or both of you had bought the farm), with only a copper acting as referee. It's not big and it's not clever, but sadly it's one of the things a lot of people don't "get" until they are older and - hopefully - a bit wiser.

Calm down, save the racing (and crashing) for the track.

Getting back on topic I wonder if the bang when the car hit the kerb was the exhaust backbox smacking the underfloor?

matdodd 22-01-2010 10:39 PM

Mike they do 4 wheel alignment over the road from where you work if you think it needs it.

ben 22-01-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by General Accident (Post 334727)
Wow Ben, I bet she was well impressed at your ace stunt display, did she give you her number :lol:. Seriously though, major brain fade going on there fella - just think what would have happened if you'd lost it, crashed into her and then had your parents facing off to her parents in A&E (especially if one or both of you had bought the farm), with only a copper acting as referee. It's not big and it's not clever, but sadly it's one of the things a lot of people don't "get" until they are older and - hopefully - a bit wiser.

Calm down, save the racing (and crashing) for the track.

Getting back on topic I wonder if the bang when the car hit the kerb was the exhaust backbox smacking the underfloor?

haha it was one of my mates in the car in front! She didnt see it, i was well gutted :cry:

IceMike 22-01-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by matdodd (Post 334734)
Mike they do 4 wheel alignment over the road from where you work if you think it needs it.


Thanks mate, but i got it booked into a guy on tuesday, its gunan get a full service and checked out, and wheels balanced and aligned and breaks and everything. full overhaul just like my s44 needs lol

matdodd 22-01-2010 10:48 PM

Ill do the S44 service for you if you want mate? and Ill charge u less than the Focas will cost you:p

ashleyb4 22-01-2010 10:49 PM

Still not big and clever dude. Ive lost two good friends in car accidents .One of my old best mates (knew him since i was about 3) was killed early december in a car accident. He was a passenger in a car they where doing 70 in a 30 lost control and hit a tree. Driver survived (JUST) Its just stupidity.

A

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 334735)
haha it was one of my mates in the car in front! She didnt see it, i was well gutted :cry:


wacattack 22-01-2010 10:50 PM

Ben, all I can say is naive and shit driving. You should never end up in that predicament when driving on the road

ben 22-01-2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 334708)
It gets on my tits as buys get in car driving like nutter thinking there on NFS and crash which drives up insurance for anyone else.

A

Some people drive like there on NFS and some people crash! Touch wood im yet to crash and have no points or warnings!

ashleyb4 22-01-2010 11:09 PM

Yea but these things happen when you least expect them only takes a split second. Just because you dont have any points etc doesnt mean your not going to crash. Just take it easy dude and have fun driving.

A

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben (Post 334749)
Some people drive like there on NFS and some people crash! Touch wood im yet to crash and have no points or warnings!


IceMike 22-01-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matdodd (Post 334739)
Ill do the S44 service for you if you want mate? and Ill charge u less than the Focas will cost you:p


u shouldnt offer that lol , u know i will take u up on that lol

bert digler 22-01-2010 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IceMike (Post 334312)
Just got home from a nites racing, and being tired i was drivin wot i would call like a granny and keeping the revs low. Got almost home and there is a small round about and as i went round it the back end of my focus let go and span 180 around into a kirb. There was a bang but im not sure if it was just from the tire hitting the kirb or wot, i cant tell cos its dark. the kirb was one of them angled ones, and i cant feel any dent marks on the alloy, but wot else should i look out for or try and listen for to see if ive done any damage. i know i should book it into a garage to get checked but i dont have any time this week.

how the hell did you spin it did you clip the island before spinning and was you doing 80 ffs you gypsey;):thumbsup:

wacattack 22-01-2010 11:14 PM

Ben, losing control is near as damn it as crashing. Think it's time you grew up mate, racing some "chick" to a round about, you are the man, really showing who's boss. If someone drove like you did, lost control of their car and hit into me, I'd beat them into the ground. If you want to drive fast do a track day, otherwise chill out. I suppose you are just showing your age, and by the sounds of it you don't even have the driving ability to drive at speed, you can't even judge the braking distance in a corsa!

matdodd 22-01-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bert digler (Post 334754)
ffs you gypsey;):thumbsup:


You legend:D

IceMike 22-01-2010 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bert digler (Post 334754)
how the hell did you spin it did you clip the island before spinning and was you doing 80 ffs you gypsey;):thumbsup:

NO DAD!!!! it was rainin and i was only doin about 15 if that, was a 90deg turn wasnt like a big open round about

ashleyb4 22-01-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bert digler (Post 334754)
how the hell did you spin it did you clip the island before spinning and was you doing 80 ffs you gypsey;):thumbsup:

Come on you have seen the way mike drives a rc car.

A


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