Lipo Batteries From Hobbyking
 

Hi

Has anyone bought / using either of these batteries from hobbyking they seem quite cheap wonder if there any good

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=9435

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=8357
want some cheap lipos for my sons desert truck soon
any ideas let me know

For racing I wouldn't bother. However for practise or just bashing I'd go for it. Providing you aren't drawing a lot of current they are perfectly fine. Quite a few of locals are using them in Rustlers/Slashes and they seem fine.

Ive been using the Red 4000,s at the PDA today and they are perfectly fine.

Yes, they are perfectly fine. I use hobbycity batteries in all my cars and heli's and they are fantastic.

I'd agree with Frogger. Especially as they are 'only' going in a Losi Desert Truck, for general use. People need to stop getting so hung up on 'C' ratings - they're mostly made up anyway from too many companies' marketing divisions.

These would be fine 'even' for racing.

yer been thinking about getting some of these, any one in the uk ordered from there ? whats the postage like ?

Postage is good and you shouldn't get charged customs as I believe you can mark the value down yourself on checkout.

I got mine from nilesinstall on eBay.Not sure if they have any left in stock.Worked out about 30 quid delivered.

ok will give it a shot at that price :)

yer seen them about on ebay befor, cant see the one im after tho

3s 5000 30c

I currently have two hobbyking batteries the red 4000mah and the blue 5000mah 20c I find they perform great for the price and have hardly any difference from the So called 40c rated packs. In my opinion many of the packs C ratings are very over rated.

Just my opinion.

Brett

is have 5 of the red zippy packs, they are great.

Oh, if you can, the Turnigy batteries are a little better than the Zippy Flightmax's -they seem to hold their voltage slightly better than the Zippy LiPos.

lookin at the 40c range, as the 5c charge rates seems good. is this pos ? says it is but does it shorten the life, or are thay really safe to charge at 5c ?

I don`t think theres a charger out yet that can charge above 10Amps so that means your pretty limited ...example 5000mAh charged at 5C = 25 amps

I personally charge at 1C

Andy

im sure if there was marvin would know about it :)

see this charger http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=7028

whats the max c i can charge the batt with ? its all a bit confusing

marvin where u at ?

what too look for when buying a new charger ?

if its 5000 mah battery

then 7.4v it will charge at 1 c 5amp
11.1 it will charge at about 4.4 amp
14.8v it will charge at about 3.7amps

most chargers vary this one is 50 watts max it will also charge up to 6s packs 22.2 v

so.. when a batt is rated to its 5c charge rate, does that mean 5amp ?

so that is capable of chaging a 11.1 5000 mah battery at 4.4 amp, close to the 5c it can handle ?

The C-rating. I won't bother explaining what it means scientifically - that would be boring. :D

For most people, all you need to know is that 1C is the battery's capacity in mAh divided by 1000.

Therefore, 5C is the battery's capacity divided by 1000, then multiplied by 5. This is the current that you can charge the pack at.

There are plenty of 20A capable chargers out already. I have one. The iCharger 208B, the Fusion Emporer 702B, and the Hyperion 720i

A 50W charger will get you nowhere. The chargers listed above vary from 250W output to 350W output (although the Emporer can charge two batteries with 300W output each at the same time:thumbsup:)

I've been charging my 5S 5500mAh Hyperion pack at 3C - charging in 20 minutes is good!

Of the newest packs where 5C charging is permitted, I'd say 2C or 3C won't affect the pack's lifetime, 4C and 5C may shorten it a touch. But, LiPo cells are good for well over 100 cycles, but few racers will ever give them that before they move to something newer - so lifetime, in my opinion, doesn't matter a great deal.

Basically, when buying a new charger look for these things:
-Charge current, over 10A is good
-Charge power - there's no point in being able to charge at 10A if you can only do so with 1 NiMH cell. Divide the power output by your battery's peak voltage (so 4.2V per cell) to get the charge rate. If the rate is at least twice that of your pack's capacity divided by 1000 then good.
-Voltages supported - up to 6S is really the thing to have - most flexible. Obviously, higher voltage is better, but could be pointless overall. Still look at the power figures.

marvin cheers :) so what he is sayin there to charge a 11.1 5000mah at 1c it will need to be around 4.4amps and to charge it a 2c the charger will haft to be capable of of 10amp ?

ok, so ideally then i would like to able to charge it 2c/3c

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...r_&_discharger

top end of my budget really

No, that charger will be capable of charging an 11.1V 5000mAh pack at 4.4A because it's power rating (50W) will only allow you to charge such a pack at that rate. 50W/11.1V = 4.4A, or using my method, 50W/12.6V = 3.97A.

1C on a 5000mAh pack is 5A (5000/1000), so a 50W charger won't charge your pack at 1C.

To charge at 2C, it must be capable of 10A AND have a power rating of over 126W (12.6V x 10A = 126W). Oh, and be 3S capable.

Something like this charger would fit the bill. I have two of those, and one of the iChargers I mentioned earlier...

EDIT: ah, a ninja edit from you there, you hadn't written that much when I started writing this post.

Yes that charger would fit the bill. Even with a pinch of salt with those ratings it would do. 2C max on your 3S 5000 pack.

right ok gettin there, seen you recommendation, however dont no if u seen my edit in my previous post

top end of my budget really

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...r_&_discharger

having took your advise, seems to fit the bill if i want to charge a 2c

plan is to get everything from hobbyKing as in the uk and would like to make one single order :)

thanks for yuor help marvin

top guy, thanks for sorting me out mate :)

Are they in the UK? As far as I know, their nearest warehouse is Germany.

See my post - I did see your edit.

No problem about the help...

Oh, and it might be worth you getting some extra balance boards. TP and HYP/PQ/HP boards would be good

dont thay post world wide ? sure thay doo

ok some boards on the list too, is that so thay can just be compatible with more balancing batt blugs ?

Oh yeah, they do post worldwide - I just didn't get what you were saying from your post.

And, yeah, it's for future proofing. If you buy a different brand battery you'll be able to balance charge it.

spotted a few on ebay.They are bargain batteries ;)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zippy-Flightma...item3359e66080

amps
 

All a bit technical for me at the mo', but I need to clarify something. I'm looking at replacing my lipos, now one of my speedos can deal with a max ampage of 25amps, so how do I tell the output of lipos, as I was initially going off the C rating.

divide the mah by 1000 and then times it by the c rating

So if a 5000mah has a 20c Rating then 5000/1000=5 then 5x20=100Amps

By the way the c rating does not define how many amps a battery will give out but it will give a higher voltage reading underload which may or may not lead to more amps being drawn.

Maybe someone else could shed some light on this as i'm not the best at explaining things like this.

Hope this helps

Brett

You sure on those figures? That would mean your average 50c lipos would be discharging at 250amps.

Bingo! Crazy times, ain't they :)

Yep then you can watch your connectors and wire melt:thumbsup: