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Ema 06-01-2010 10:22 PM

Lazer Zx-r restoration
 
Finally got some time to start the restoration of my Kyosho Lazer Zx-r, one of my favourite RC car for sure :thumbsup: .

I bought this used Zx-r in march 2009 from a nice guy here on oOple; to be sincerely I spent some time in order to convince him to ship in Italy, but at the end I finally got my Lazer and we were both happy, so thanks again Peter (MMRCCSOWL here on oOple) .

Finding all spares in order to restore an original Zx-r was really a challange, but .... you will see the result ;) !!

Hope you enjoy the build.

Bye
Ema

Ema 06-01-2010 10:33 PM

Here’s some picture before the start.
This buggy is (was) really in great shape, with no wear on the transmission parts and with some really nice upgrades ( wasp racing carbon chassis, alu suspension holder and rw racing spure gear ).




Ema 06-01-2010 10:37 PM

Disassembly

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1...eeassembly.jpg

Ema 06-01-2010 10:40 PM

The diffs were a little gritty, so I decided to rebuild them ;) !

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9092/diff.jpg

Ema 06-01-2010 10:41 PM

Time for some fresh bits :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: !!!

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9...ssisspares.jpg

Ema 06-01-2010 10:44 PM

The rear transmission assembly is done :D !!!!

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9...rassembly1.jpg

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4...rassembly2.jpg

Welshy40 06-01-2010 10:46 PM

Nice. Well as you know bits can be bought as they have been molded. Still nice.

Ema 06-01-2010 10:46 PM

Added a new chassis and a new top deck ...

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8734/chassisass1.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3470/chassisass2.jpg

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4889/chassisass3.jpg

Ema 06-01-2010 10:48 PM

That'all for now .... but stay tuned ;) ;) !!

Bye
Ema

kek23k 06-01-2010 10:50 PM

Wow, is that the Teamline front shock mount? Haven't seen one of those since back in the day. It was my fav mount for the front. How come you have ditched the carbon chassis? Kind of understand if you are going for a 100% stock shelf queen, but I think the carbon chassis you have is a later model and has slightly better weight distribution. No doubt Welshy will be able to confirm/deny this:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Ema 06-01-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 327974)
Nice. Well as you know bits can be bought as they have been molded. Still nice.

You are right, but in this thread I'm only a collector :D !!
Here my target is to rebuild a 100% original Lazer that will never hit the track, but don't worry, a pure racer will follow shortly (or at least I hope so :D).

Ema 06-01-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kek23k (Post 327981)
Wow, is that the Teamline front shock mount? Haven't seen one of those since back in the day. It was my fav mount for the front. How come you have ditched the carbon chassis? Kind of understand if you are going for a 100% stock shelf queen, but I think the carbon chassis you have is a later model and has slightly better weight distribution. No doubt Welshy will be able to confirm/deny this:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Not really sure about the front shock mount brand, but I can post a better picture if you want ;) .

Ok, I will try to be more clear .... this will be a 100% stock shelf queen (to be honest not really 100%, as I have to wait a Zx-r body repro from Kamtec ...).

You are right, the wasp racing chassis is an MK2 layout, not really sure about the weight distribution with lipos, but probably slightly better with NiCd ( ... NiMh are too newer in this thread :D !!).

kyosho_kid 07-01-2010 07:02 PM

Lazer Parts
 
Pretty sure 2 of those 3 lazer parts came from me ;-)

kek23k 07-01-2010 07:10 PM

I think my love for carbon fiber would over-rule any desire for a shelf queen but I understand. I'm pretty sure that's a Teamline or PAP(Pete's Awesome Products) front shock mount, you should keep it safe as it's one of the only designs not available at Fibrelyte.

Keep us updated with your rebuild and I'd love to see your runner too.:thumbsup:

Ema 08-01-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyosho_kid (Post 328319)
Pretty sure 2 of those 3 lazer parts came from me ;-)

Probably true ... if you shipped something in Italy :thumbsup: !!!

Ema 08-01-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kek23k (Post 328323)
I think my love for carbon fiber would over-rule any desire for a shelf queen but I understand. I'm pretty sure that's a Teamline or PAP(Pete's Awesome Products) front shock mount, you should keep it safe as it's one of the only designs not available at Fibrelyte.

Keep us updated with your rebuild and I'd love to see your runner too.:thumbsup:

I also love carbon parts .... the runner will have a lot of them :thumbsup: !!!
But you have to wait a little as I need to get some minor parts (hex screws, new shocks, associated ballstud, RPM rod ends, ect. )

However in the meantime you can watch some updates here ;) !!

Bye
Ema

Ema 08-01-2010 01:26 PM

Here's a view of the front end ..... ops, exploded front end :D !!

All parts were carefully cleaned, the little rust on the front universal was removed easily with a WD40 shower :D !
Yes, there's also a set of NIP whisbone and upper rod ends... and yes again, also the front shock tower is new !

As all of you know the gold kyosho shocks were great, but the anodization came off very easily.
However these front shocks were really in great condition (I can really say mint ...) and they still not leak a drop of oil since 1993 :thumbsup: !


http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5507/exploedefront.jpg

Welshy40 08-01-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kek23k (Post 328323)
I think my love for carbon fiber would over-rule any desire for a shelf queen but I understand. I'm pretty sure that's a Teamline or PAP(Pete's Awesome Products) front shock mount, you should keep it safe as it's one of the only designs not available at Fibrelyte.

Keep us updated with your rebuild and I'd love to see your runner too.:thumbsup:


Id like to see a close up of the front shock tower as well, as it all depends on the camber link holes. As soon as I see it I can tell if its a PAP, or teamline (which Im not sure it is) wasp or my design.

Ema 09-01-2010 11:05 PM

Here's a better picture of the carbon front shock tower ;) !


kek23k 10-01-2010 12:38 AM

That's definitely the last shock mount I ever purchased for my zxr, I'm pretty sure it's Teamline but i know for definite that Welshy will be able to tell us. You guys have got me checking ebay for a zxr to do up now lol.

Ema 10-01-2010 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kek23k (Post 329379)
You guys have got me checking ebay for a zxr to do up now lol.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Ha ha, so it's time to join our club !!! Good !!!
If you can't find anything on ebay, let me know ..... I will check from a couple of friends here in Italy ;) !!

Ema 10-01-2010 10:57 PM

I think it's time for some updates :D !!!

The front block reassembled

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/520...tblockassy.jpg

Ema 10-01-2010 11:08 PM

The chassis with the front end assembled; the Lazer is taking its shape :thumbsup: !!!

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/806/chasswfront1.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7604/chasswfront2.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1948/chasswfront3z.jpg

Welshy40 11-01-2010 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kek23k (Post 329379)
That's definitely the last shock mount I ever purchased for my zxr, I'm pretty sure it's Teamline but i know for definite that Welshy will be able to tell us. You guys have got me checking ebay for a zxr to do up now lol.

Yup must be a teamline as pap never made this. I made something similar but with a different ball joint allignment.

kek23k 11-01-2010 10:28 PM

Coming on nicely with the build, must resist urge to buy a zxr!

Welshy40 11-01-2010 10:30 PM

Well this lazer restoration sure brings back memories when building my zx back in early 89. Great design, great kit and built to last. This looks fantastic and hope the shell and paint job do it some justice.

kek23k 11-01-2010 11:55 PM

Same here Welshy, bringing back heaps of nostalgia getting the zx for Christmas. Comparing it to the mid while doing the build, hehe. Funtimes :D

moth898 12-01-2010 01:26 AM

I just received a lazer zx-r shell from team bluegroove and have to say its very good. It's made from macrolon, a lexan produced by Bayer. I know this because I use it in my company too, I manufacture aluminium railigs and use the same material for "glass" railings. I also purchased a zx5 shell from kamtec and from what I hear they are good too, can't wait to receive it

Welshy40 12-01-2010 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moth898 (Post 330051)
I just received a lazer zx-r shell from team bluegroove and have to say its very good. It's made from macrolon, a lexan produced by Bayer. I know this because I use it in my company too, I manufacture aluminium railigs and use the same material for "glass" railings. I also purchased a zx5 shell from kamtec and from what I hear they are good too, can't wait to receive it

I think you mean ZX-S not ZX-5 as they are two different shells. The ZX-S is the one I gave to Kamtec to make a mold so everyone could at least use a shell with this car.

You will have to make a slight change on your servo positioning so buy a set of Associated B2 or B3 servo mounts (should still be available), maybe even B4 may work as this will help push your servo further inwards towards the belt so the shell wont hit the servo back, that is unless you have an S9551 Futaba and then you neednt worry about doing any of that.:thumbsup:

Welshy40 12-01-2010 08:13 AM

Is anyone on this thread attending the Petit event this weekend?

isobarik 12-01-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moth898 (Post 330051)
I just received a lazer zx-r shell from team bluegroove and have to say its very good. It's made from macrolon, a lexan produced by Bayer. I know this because I use it in my company too, I manufacture aluminium railigs and use the same material for "glass" railings. I also purchased a zx5 shell from kamtec and from what I hear they are good too, can't wait to receive it

i think i can provide an under shell for the zxr bo0dy ...a pristine one ...

mvh isobarik

Welsh nope sorry shall not attend the petit event.

moth898 12-01-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isobarik (Post 330113)
i think i can provide an under shell for the zxr bo0dy ...a pristine one ...

mvh isobarik

Welsh nope sorry shall not attend the petit event.

any time your ready to give me a price pm me

Ema 12-01-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 329999)
Well this lazer restoration sure brings back memories when building my zx back in early 89. Great design, great kit and built to last. This looks fantastic and hope the shell and paint job do it some justice.

The paint job will be the one shown on the zx-r box ;).
This car must be really like the ones shown at the expositions .... maybe I can lend it to Kyosho if they decide to make a re-edition :woot: !!!

However I have to (and so you also have to) wait the body and the undertray from Kamtec ....

The decals instead are already ready :thumbsup:.

P.S. I'm glad you (and all other guys here) enjoy this build.

Ema 12-01-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moth898 (Post 330051)
I just received a lazer zx-r shell from team bluegroove and have to say its very good. It's made from macrolon, a lexan produced by Bayer. I know this because I use it in my company too, I manufacture aluminium railigs and use the same material for "glass" railings. I also purchased a zx5 shell from kamtec and from what I hear they are good too, can't wait to receive it

Good to know, so please show us some quality pictures of your bluegroove Zx-r shell ;) .

Ema 12-01-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 330071)
Is anyone on this thread attending the Petit event this weekend?

Unfortunately I will not attend.

Ema 12-01-2010 03:51 PM

Here's some updates ;) !!

An exploded view of the carefully cleaned rear end :D .
But hey !!!! Wait a minute .... where are the dogbones ???

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8...plodedrear.jpg



Don't worry, they are well stored into their original packet :thumbsup: !!
It's really weird that they also show the little rust found on the front universal, however nothing can withstand a WD-40 bath !!!


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/602/reardogbone.jpg

moth898 12-01-2010 04:35 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Hi Ema,
I'm going to post 3 picuteres. One of the Bluegroove body, my car pre disassembly and that chassis I told you about that is what I think to be a law-3. What I can tell you about the Bluegoove body is that it doesn't include the wing sides like the original zx-r.

isobarik 12-01-2010 05:22 PM

Nope not law because its an chassi for the MKII

Nice MKII car there ....

mvh Isobarik

Ema 12-01-2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moth898 (Post 330229)
Hi Ema,
I'm going to post 3 picuteres. One of the Bluegroove body, my car pre disassembly and that chassis I told you about that is what I think to be a law-3. What I can tell you about the Bluegoove body is that it doesn't include the wing sides like the original zx-r.

The body seems nice, I'm sure it will be ok for a shelf queen and I really have to say that your car look nice and clean also before disassembly ;).

I also quote Isobarick, I think that both chassis are made of FRP, not the same kind but however a sort of FRP.

You (and all other guys) can see the law-3 is here:
http://www.kyosho.de/?page=shop%2Fpr...t&search=law-3

http://www.kyosho.de/show_preview.ph...pg&title=LAW-3

Ema 12-01-2010 10:21 PM

The build is still going ....

The rear shock tower with the wing support installed ;).

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6854/reartower.jpg


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