Official (BRCA) Series?
 

Do you think it can be done in 2010?

On some 8th and some 10th tracks perhaps?

How long until its recognised as a class :confused:

not soon enough,:)

Just wait a while - hopefully we've got something.;)

All very cagey, might there be some actual leccy 8th meetings next year then??

It wont get 'recognised' till someone makes it so.

Someone needs to approach the BRCA, form a Committee and put the graft in.

Good luck to whoever chooses to do that though, all this "nitro only" BS kinda ruins what is supposed to be a new avenue for people to go down if they want to...
I got huge love for nitro RX....huge love, but if the nitro lads are against electric then so be it...let the electric lads do what they gotta do and let them bring a new crop of champions to the front....

In the same way im looking forward to 1/8th electric onroad :)

If anyone is secretly planning to go to the BRCA about electric 8th RX and wants any advice (for what its worth) feel free to PM me .

I'd be more than happy to get involved, my main concern is the calender! If you do 10th electric and 8th nitro nationals, plus say either a regional series, how many weekends does that leave for an electric series??

I reckon they should include some heats of electric only if the meeting is not over subscribed. It would then give everyone longer to prepare rather than having a short round time. We ran at Clanfield this weekend and they went very well. In fact my Losi 8ight 1.5BE drove better than my Losi 8ight 2.0B but then again my OS Speed is getting old :(

@Dave, itll come to a point where you'll have to choose which classes are most important to you I guess :/ You oughta PM Marvin if you want to get involved. Sounds like he knows something that we dont :)

I know, that's why I think it's struggling to get off the ground, at the moment quite understandably it would be very few peoples priority!

I'd personally go for trying to match ROAR rules (5 min Quals, 10 min finals?), leave electric battery/motor choices as free as possible then try and round people up to get enough for a heat!

I'm going nitro myself next year but know of 2 northern series, I'd happily run nitro at one and leccy at the other. If we had some basic rules I'd happily approach those series to try and get a class agreed in principle then see if we can get numbers!?

Well, there are the rules I wrote up that are on this forum.

There is a possibility of a BRCA 1/8 electric series in 2010, but at the moment we're having to wait.

Good on ya fella :)

James, i think it'd be great idea. (obviously, now I've got one. lol)

But to be honest, I've even been having a look at nitro rx for something to do next year, just because I like how they feel to drive (handling wise).

Don't some of the RX nats already somtimes clash with the 10th nats, as I can remember some of the top lads being missing from 10th events the other year.

I think, in the long run, electric rx has a longer life span. Its only going to take a few complaints from locals about noise etc, for nitro to be outlawed. Then the nitro lads won't really have a choice.

Rallycross will be here for years to come, its been around for 30 years already. I guess there will be a few sites with complaints here and there but there will always be somewhere out of the way that can host it.

electric 8th deserves to be a recognised class in my opinion though and i hope we get a proper national series. It has to start somewhere so even if a slightly off the cuff series takes place a lot will be learnt so we know what will work the following year.

It seems that it appeals more to 10th electric drivers than nitro 8th so perhaps would make more sense to avoid clashing with them rather than 8th rallycross :confused: .

Perhaps 4 to 6 races in year one?

More likely to be about 3 dates - just waiting on Jim Spencer and a certain section now.

Sounds great...

Which section? truggy? rallyx?

I can't say I'm afraid - my mouth is zipped.

Can't wait to hear about it, I'll definitely run in any series setup!

ditto! :)

Ya i dont know how slow or political BRCA is but roar and ifmar are very slow and political. I had an Ifmar official say 1/8th electric was looking at 2-3 years for full recognition and this was last year. ROAR has some rules that have alot of electric guys here in the states staying away from their races like the plague. (mostly battery rules and a few other things). It has gotten so bad with ROAR, that some Regional ROAR championships (gas & electric) are struggling to have enough for a B main!

Its RC Pro Series here in the America that is beginning to take over ROAR as the predominate racing organization and their electric rules are very stripped down and simple. Basically RC pro rules are the same as the gas cars as it pertains to the dimensions of the car, no motor limits, then you can run 4-6cell soft or hard packs, a few basic safety things and thats it!

I wound not put to much stock in pandering to the gas guys for popularity and acceptance if they are being like you describe. Just create your own series and keep it simple at first (1-3years min) to really allow more racers in and participate. Do it right & dont be cynical to the gas guys. Just show them your having more trouble free fun than them, run faster lap times and you will convert more of them over. That has been the trend here.

In fact you know what? One of you should take this by the horns and start your own RC pro series chapters in England. That way you have a strong credible organization to lead with and all the marketing, advice and racing support as well. I know the Offroad director for RC pro series in the States and can put you guys in touch with him. They will want a solid R/C leader to be director of all of England, a track or 2 that can host the series to start and of course genuine interest and support from the racing community there. So far they have chapters in the U.S., the Caribbean, South Africa, Canada and I heard they are working on a few Asian and European countries since they went International just a few years ago. http://www.rcprosites.com/

Let me know what you guys think.

The BRCA is the bomb :)

*pops own collar*

I'm watching 8th electric with interest. I wouldn't even consider running nitro, it's just not my thing, but I get all excited by the prospect of 8th electric.

I reckon as it gains more momentum then it could tempt a lot of electric boys...

I certainly hope so! The more the merrier!

I don't think that the UK has enough racers who are willing to travel to support two nation-wide race series, or even two race bodies (BRCA and RC-Pro). Also, I think that we are all quite happy with the way that the BRCA is run, though I know you have more issues with ROAR in the US.

Verywell. I am ignorant of what BRCA is all about over there.

However I will say, people said the same thing about ROAR before all these other entities came about and now you have, ROAR, RC-Pro Series, The Jimmy Babcock series and almost every city and region have their own series they run parallel to these. 10 years ago we would have thought this insane too. But its almost as if the competition and increased activity in the community has bolstered the hobby and now there are many many more racers, hobby shops and double the tracks (in places where several series are going on) as there were just 10 years ago.

I might be interested in this, dates dependat of course.....
perhaps a nice new 2.0e:thumbsup:, dont tell the wife:lol:

You know, I was trolling the other forums on oople and it seems like 1/8th buggy is no where as popular as 1/10th is in England aye? What % of each of the classes would you say people run in England?

Well at the moment, there is no series for electric 8th but the nitro series and the 10th electric is just about equally as popular. I think 10th has a greater turn out.

But 'hobby' wise, I'd say that 8th nitro is more popular, but the hobbyists don't necessarily go and race them once they have bought them.

Yep, I'd agree.

Numbers-wise at national level, I'd say they are equal (if you grouped all 1/10 off-road national racers (as many do both classes)).

Did anything progress here ?

Pretty close now I think...

It's looking likely-ish

Its exploding over here in Houston, Texas. U.S. Last year at this time electric 1/8th was 5-10% of the entries at the years first big race. This year it was 50/50!!!! Yes most of the top level guys were still running nitro out of tradition I suppose but man what a change a year can make.

I think there is a place for 8th electric,But we have 10th,8th rallyx,truggys..Every class has the same names beating around in the top 20.This is only my opinion, (so lets not shoot me down to hard..hey:() but we seem to have so many classes from micro to large scale,I think we need to bear in mind there are only so many people racing rc in the uk. we are starting to spread ourselves a bit thin:woot:.
If you want to race off road electric nats etc you have 10th (nice and peaceful).If you want to race 8th nats etc you have rallyx(LOUD),...simples;)

And if you like to be in the warm by a radiator touring or 12th..but it's just not the same:p

Ya thats a blessing and a curse I suppose. The great number of classes gives variety and fun factor for something unique but sorta bad cuz like you said there are only so many racers so you might only have 3-7 cars in a class. Few classes and the range of competition is greater in each class and if your new and suck, you can usually count on someone sucking more than you :p

1/10 4wd is strongest in the northern part of the U.S. with 1/8th about tied with it.

1/8th Buggy (mostly nitro) rules the southern states with 1/8 Truggy in 2nd and COOR Stadium trucks in 3rd and 4wd 1/10th comes in 4th.

If you have anything else then your car is sitting in the pits with not enough drivers to make a class. I do LOVE Euro styled rally. I do wish we had more of that here in the states. Do you guys have a link to some good racing picks and what kind of cars you use for "RallyX" is it?

On the inside cover of the mags this month it says there definately wont be a BRCA series this year :bored:

I run the Northern Regional 1/8th RX series, if there are enough numbers at each meeting I would be more than happy to run a heat of 1/8th Elec at the regional.

Is there enough 1/8th Elec racers out there ATM.

I'm not sure what to say.

Meh, I'll spill the beans.

I got in contact with Jim Spencer about running a 1/8th Electric series this year. It was just after the AGM, so no chance of a new section. However, I had just written some guideline rules, so sent this to him, and he asked a few sections whether they'd be happy to run a support class.

The BRCA truggy series organisers deemed that if by the end of January there were enough spaces left over at the truggy nats, then an electric class would be opened up.

Having had a look at RCRaceControl, only around 20 drivers are booked into each meeting (3 2 day events). This means one of two things: 1/8 electric will go ahead to boost numbers, along with hopefully some more truggy entries, or, the series will be cancelled.

I'm now waiting on Jim to tell me what is going on with regards to moving forward, but if people would like to start putting names down here so we can get numbers, then I can give Jim (and the truggy section) expectations.

Names:
Simon Turner (me)
James Helliwell
David Gibson
Simon Heath

Oh, and try to keep this a little quiet, not sure whether I should've spilt the beans yet...

+1 James Helliwell

our local club is gradually moving 1/8 to the electric side of things, initially there was only one or two of us at first, but it seems each week another rolls up with a change from nitro to brushless, hopefully we will see this trend nationwide and get our own series:thumbsup:.
When they first saw them they just dimissed them, not anymore we now run about a 50/50 split

Depending on dates +1 David Gibson.

Also, Birdy I'll be doing NRS with nitro this year, but still have my Losi so will happily double up classes if you get enough to run a separate heat!

I know alot of guys that once Electric gets in there especially around 50/50 they will run double classes too and/or just switch to electric completely but dont want to do it first since the "competition' and fun is where the numbers are. Once you get about 50/50 consistently things will take off fast!

Again, depending on dates etc I'll come along with mine so +1 Simon Heath. :thumbsup: