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import charges?
i want to purchase a few items from associatedparthouse.com and it amounts to $33 approximatly, which is really good price. but will customs tax me or charge me for them? has anyone else bought something from APH.com? did you get charged? what do oyu normally get charged for?. its just i dont want to be paying like half price which is basically what they are in america, and then be charged when they get to the u.k making me have paid more money in the long run.
thanks Alex |
If it comes in an envelope you usually miss customs;)
If it comes in a box ie a car etc then they usually nail you, it is still cheaper though |
well its some tyres,springs,screws,washers etc really i think the biggest thing im getting is tyres
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listen u wont pay import duty, get it listed as scale model parts none import taxable, and will only pay vat 17.5% in uk dos so 33 dollars 16 quid time 17.5%
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I got a box of B4 bits from the US, It was RCBoyz.
It came in 1 week, and I got no charge for it. |
$33 dollars right now is £16.62.
VAT and duty are only due on goods over £18, so in this instance you should not have to pay anything at all. Bear in mind though that the customs value is calculated INCLUDING shipping. So, if the shipping cost an extra $10 on top of the $33, then you will go over the £18 limit. The VAT will be next to nothing on that - but what will kill you is the customs clearance fee of between £8 and £13.50. Your $33 of parts could easily end up costing you £35, not £16, probably a lot more than buying in the UK, but without the backup. |
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Simple, if its declared over GBP£18 you pay, if its under you dont ! Yes it is possible for a more expensive item to "Slip through", but its rare, after all royal mail make between £8 and £13 for every parcel they collect a charge on, so they have a vested interest in taxing wherever possible;) |
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isn't that charge going up too? They told me last time I had to got heckmondwike for my parcel. |
Fancy a job as an accountant sosidge?
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lee is very correct,
if package comes via royal mail postman type delivery you have a 80% - 90% chance it will come through no problem, parcel force seem to be the only one's who impose charge's on almost everything. |
I picked up a nokak brushless yesterday from the Leeds depot, i had a nice £25.08 charge waiting for me. £13 release fee and the rest as VAT.
I asked for a breakdown of what they did for £13 and they couldnt tell me. so i asked to see a manager and he couldnt tell me. I equated it to bank charges in the fact any charge has to be itemised to validate it . Sent them a letter today giving them 14 days to prove the £13 is valid or i will be making a claim. I would sugest to anyone to do the same as all they have to do is sign a bit of paper to accept it. Not worth £13!!!! |
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I think the guy worked as like a free lance delivery dude for UPS. They wanted £50 for a replacement part that was free. He said that they open the box, and re-seal it. thats it. Also, he was that good, he actually opened it up, let me replace the new part with the broken part, then sent it back, as I had refused it. What a guy. ;) |
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wrapped in a condom and swallowed? :o
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Import charges are only due on items with a value of the equivalent to £36 (around $70) and excluding postage or more. This is the value at which items can be gifted so generally there is no charge on anything up to that value.
Above that amount you are liable for VAT on the excess and more than likely a handling charge from your local post office. These are paid when you visit your collection office to pick up your parcel. I generally order between $50 and $60 of stuff at a time from the US (at the shop mentioned) and have never had a problem with customs or the postman. The bit the shops won't like is that even if you do get caught for import duty and a handling charge the items will still work out cheaper than you can buy them in the UK :wtf: |
charge's are due on good above £18 not £36 jon
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1/ they catch you 2/ they can prove its not a warranty return item speeding is ilegal, so is drinking under age but everyone has done it! and how many buy good on a holiday over the limit and dont declair it? sorry but i pay enough taxes 25% on wages, 17.5% on most stuff i buy, road tax, fuel tax, council tax, think its only fair i get a bit back |
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You used to be able to gift something up to the value of £36. So say your relation in the USA wants to send you something over to the value of £30, the parcel can be marked as a gift and there is no charge payable. Looks like i'm a bit out of date on my legislation :p |
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thought that would be the easy part for you mark :D :D :D (sorry could'nt resist) |
As illegal as it is mark, i look up to you:D
After what i have just been taxed this week on my wages right now i hate gordon brown:wtf: |
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Trust me the VAT office is worse than most for deciding what you can and can't do, I have to deal with them nearly every day of the year and most of the time it just depends on how good or bad a day the person is having as to what the answer is. Easiest way is not to worry about the charges, it will be cheaper than the UK whether you get caught or not. |
it isn't illegal, if you get the sender to declare the goods as scale model replica kits or spares, they are outside the impost duty bracket no matter how much they cost. u will pay vat but no import duty, trust me i know this to be true and legal, and thats from a guy that deals with import duty
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Or you could Create a ltd company in which you pay just over £100 a week as a directors fee in which your NI and tax @22% comes out of and the rest is all taxable at 20% (corporation tax) minus expenses;) Saves me a fortune!! |
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Thats the advantage of being a director and not an employee, I suppose you take the rest of your earnings out through dividend's and directors loan accounts? |
Exactly! and split the dividends between and the Mrs so i can earn twice as much before i hit 40%
I reckon it saves me about 20k a year in total |
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as a shop owner i clearly have have issues with people buying from america etc, however i live in the real world and accept that you have the choice and why should you pay more just to feed me, that said major importers like cml,horizon etc don't get the opportunity to defraud the vat by declaring the large container of parts from associated as "gift". i accept that you order the items and if they get through without a charge thats not your fault, however if you deliberatly declare the goods as something there not to avoid the charges due that is clearly wrong.
as a second point how can you come onto a forum and explain how you avoid charges whilst carrying a shop name in your signature line. if your supported by that shop in your racing surely you should be supporting them back. telling people how to get goods cheaper from somewhere else does not seem the way to do it. |
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How can we stop that? What happens if I customs found out. Who gets into trouble? :confused: |
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If Jimmy didn't have this site to let out his oOplely madness, goodness knows what would happen. (sorry Jimmy, but like you said the other day, you love me :wtf::o;):D) |
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...but I can live without all those numbers... make my head hurt. |
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you need to earn over £150k a year in order to save £20k on tax through this method. And if you earn that much you shouldn't really need to shop abroad to save the odd £20 on gear!! |
without being to funny about it, horizon that own Losi sell Losi car's online cheaper than you can buy em from any shop in the UK, and that includes import duty and vat, although import duty should not be paid on any scale model or replica kit apart from trains and thats from UK customs them selfs, and thats not listing anything as there not, just plain simple facts. yes you should and still do have to pay vat,but with that and postage a xx4 is 40-50 quid cheaper than here in UK,xxxcr 30-40 quid,i would love to support our great British shops, and suppliers but some one some were is making a killing and if it isnt the shops then who??, i have my own ideas but what do you guys think.??
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