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Neil Skull 30-11-2009 02:59 PM

Petite Rc race In January
 
Just a heads up.

We are looking to get some team drivers to race at this event.
So far Simon Willets has promised to attend and also Shin Adachi from Japan.
Shin is the Designer of all the electric 1/10th cars from Kyosho and also a top world class racer. so for any Kyosho fans it could be worth a trip just to meet Shin as he has never come to Uk to race before as far as i know.

Has any other Kyosho fans booked in? I saw Fabs name i think.

RogerM 30-11-2009 04:58 PM

I'd love to go, looks like it could be great fun but from a practical point of view its just not viable as it would cost more for this one event than my whole winter racing! :'(

Good luck to the Kyosho guys at this event, please somebody take some video footage of the K' cars running.

SimonW 30-11-2009 07:05 PM

I'm in 2wd and 4wd, but not truck, both days

Col 30-11-2009 10:38 PM

If Neil and/or Kyosho want to pay, me and my SP will make the trip down...:thumbsup:

njc11 30-11-2009 10:41 PM

Ive registered, just waiting to hear if theres a place for both days before i pay!! :thumbsup:

More than likely i'll be pitting with Fabs..

Ive paid! so hopefully im in :thumbsup:

mikeyscott 30-11-2009 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njc11 (Post 316573)
Ive registered, just waiting to hear if theres a place for both days before i pay!! :thumbsup:

I paid for myself and a mate yesterday and we're both in.

Not running Kyosho I'm afraid...

Neil Skull 01-12-2009 10:12 AM

Thanks for the replies,

Make sure to come and say hello to myself and Shin and the Team.

I spoke with Nicolas Petite and he mentioned that its nearly fully booked so preference will go to those who pay early!!!!!!

This is my first EP buggy race i have attended for years, so i am very much looking forward to how things have changed since i last raced with my Optima mid Turbo and my Cougar many many years ago.

njc11 01-12-2009 10:56 AM

Neil,

Have you got any set ups yet from Si yet?? Also with Shin coming and knowing what to expect surface wise... has he got a starting set up for his FS?

Im more or less there with mine now :thumbsup: running lipo and 180g has made the car feel good to me... my set up is on petit..

bigred5765 01-12-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger (Post 316416)
I'd love to go, looks like it could be great fun but from a practical point of view its just not viable as it would cost more for this one event than my whole winter racing! :'(

Good luck to the Kyosho guys at this event, please somebody take some video footage of the K' cars running.


where's your commitment roger :woot:,Fancy missing the chance to meet your car designer,:thumbdown:

RogerM 01-12-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 316692)
where's your commitment roger :woot:,Fancy missing the chance to meet your car designer,:thumbdown:

Whilst this is true and very disappointing for me as you can imagine I have to be practical ... wasn't that many months ago that I risked loosing my house in the credit crunch remember, that sort of thing focuses you mind!!!!

Might actually see if I can tie a visit in with a trip to see friends in that part of the world to shake the mans hand but sadly will not be able to race as much as I'd like to :'(

mikeyscott 01-12-2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 316721)
Whilst this is true and very disappointing for me as you can imagine I have to be practical ... wasn't that many months ago that I risked loosing my house in the credit crunch remember, that sort of thing focuses you mind!!!!

Might actually see if I can tie a visit in with a trip to see friends in that part of the world to shake the mans hand but sadly will not be able to race as much as I'd like to :'(

Kyosho boys help the man out ;)

5 euros each and the mans fee is paid for

Neil Skull 01-12-2009 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njc11 (Post 316688)
Neil,

Have you got any set ups yet from Si yet?? Also with Shin coming and knowing what to expect surface wise... has he got a starting set up for his FS?

Im more or less there with mine now :thumbsup: running lipo and 180g has made the car feel good to me... my set up is on petit..

I very much doubt if Shin has ever run indoors on carpet before :)

I have to get Simon to write his set ups down as he keeps them in his head!!

Neil Skull 01-12-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 316721)
Whilst this is true and very disappointing for me as you can imagine I have to be practical ... wasn't that many months ago that I risked loosing my house in the credit crunch remember, that sort of thing focuses you mind!!!!

Might actually see if I can tie a visit in with a trip to see friends in that part of the world to shake the mans hand but sadly will not be able to race as much as I'd like to :'(

Roger,

If you can make it down that would be fantastic.
I was planning to go to Worksop on the 20th to get to you guys north of the watford gap ;-) but my daughter insisted i go watch her Nativity play.

As far as credit crunch goes it has affected a lot of people me included.
I havent raced or flown for months now. I do miss it but i have to prioritise at moment like most people. I would love to get an FS and have a play maybe :( next year

njc11 01-12-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 316738)
I very much doubt if Shin has ever run indoors on carpet before :)

I have to get Simon to write his set ups down as he keeps them in his head!!

I should have explained myself better!! Im looking for a high grip set up! lol!! :thumbsup: I have an idea on my starting set up, i just wanted to compare notes.. if you know what i mean! :woot:

Welshy40 01-12-2009 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 316394)
Just a heads up.

We are looking to get some team drivers to race at this event.
So far Simon Willets has promised to attend and also Shin Adachi from Japan.
Shin is the Designer of all the electric 1/10th cars from Kyosho and also a top world class racer. so for any Kyosho fans it could be worth a trip just to meet Shin as he has never come to Uk to race before as far as i know.

Has any other Kyosho fans booked in? I saw Fabs name i think.

Neil,

Hope you guys come down, im using my old Lazer ZX-S still so look out for a green shell with a red dragon and youve found me.

James

RogerM 03-12-2009 05:02 PM

Ok, bank manager is going to want a word with me after this but both event entry (both 2wd & 4wd) and hotel are booked up.

All I need now is a carpet event prior to this to tune the set-ups ... FS has never been on carpet and the RB5 hasn't since last Jan!
Anybody know of any not a million miles away???

njc11 03-12-2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 317572)
Ok, bank manager is going to want a word with me after this but both event entry (both 2wd & 4wd) and hotel are booked up.

All I need now is a carpet event prior to this to tune the set-ups ... FS has never been on carpet and the RB5 hasn't since last Jan!
Anybody know of any not a million miles away???

Good man for booking in! :thumbsup: which hotel you booked? Did you see my post on the Ramada? If you choose winter deals you can get the rooms for £39 a night! :thumbsup:

I decided to enter especially as shin is supposed to be going, and all the good reports ive heard about this meet.. We'll be able to find out all the set up tips and pointers from the designer himself :)

Incidently, ive noticed that both Shin and Si willets are still on the "waiting to pay list" Neil, any gen?

Im at Broxtowe this sunday which is high grip carpet, raced here a few times.. still working on a good set up for both cars.. not far off so will keep you posted pal :thumbsup:

Arn0 03-12-2009 11:00 PM

Roger, Nick - Have a look in the petit setups' page, there is something from last year. That 'll be probably a raw starting points for both cars.

RogerM 04-12-2009 01:54 AM

Nick I am in the Ramada too :D

Arno ... was the FS even available last winter? Think I built mine in Feb and it was one of the first conversion kits officially in the UK IIRC.

Will look at the site to check over the RB5 set-ups and work from there

Arn0 04-12-2009 02:01 AM

Yes Roger, the FS was available at this time of the year, Fabs was running the car.
CU there!

Neil Skull 04-12-2009 09:37 AM

Well.

It seems i have to make an appointment with the bank manager too.:cry:

Myself and Mike Cradock (uk team manager) just decided to book in and race too:thumbsup:

As far as setups go we have not got a clue. Has anyone raced before at the petite and know what are the good tire choices?

Also i was looking for what shop will be there.

Welshy40 04-12-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 317811)
Well.

It seems i have to make an appointment with the bank manager too.:cry:

Myself and Mike Cradock (uk team manager) just decided to book in and race too:thumbsup:

As far as setups go we have not got a clue. Has anyone raced before at the petite and know what are the good tire choices?

Also i was looking for what shop will be there.

Neil,

Yellow schumacher mini pins are what most people use but some like myself use yellow schumacher mini spikes due to having far too much grip with the pins.

No idea on what shops will be there.

njc11 04-12-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 317811)
Well.

It seems i have to make an appointment with the bank manager too.:cry:

Myself and Mike Cradock (uk team manager) just decided to book in and race too:thumbsup:

As far as setups go we have not got a clue. Has anyone raced before at the petite and know what are the good tire choices?

Also i was looking for what shop will be there.

The more K cars the better... :thumbsup: the more people seen to be driving them the better...:)

We must all pit together at the petit.. so we can compare notes..

Although ive not raced at the Maritime before, the carpet etc looks very similar to Broxtowe which is where im racing this weekend and where i have raced before.. In which case 2/3 run old mini pins might be a good starting point... im still working on a good high grip set up for this type of surface, so will keep all posted with a good strating set up for the petit :thumbsup:

Karl Marsden has done a few rounds at Broxtowe with an RB5.. so have a word with him, infact get him to set your cars up! :woot:

Cheers

Nick

njc11 04-12-2009 10:27 AM

Neil,

Meant to ask.. where can i get one of those nice warm looking Red kyosho Hoodies?

Ive looked everywhere and cant seem to find any?

Cheers

Nick

niggs98 04-12-2009 10:35 AM

my setup from last years petit. will be a good safe starting point. i know the car has had a few changes with the sp but the basics should still be the same



FRONT

oil 40-45 wt losi dependant on temprature
piston 2c
spring lime green 75
shock tower kit middle
wishbone outer hole
inner camberlink middle hole +1mm washer
outer camberlink inner hole
hub height low (washers above)
kickup 25 degree's
weight 20g on top of servo 20 on top of square bit of the battery strap
ride height wishbones below level


REAR

08 velvet body, 54mm shaft
oil 30 wt losi
piston 3b
spring mauve,blue (imt told 72 but not sure, spring that comes with the 08 rear end)
shock tower 08 middle
wishbone 08 middle
inner camberlink outer hole no washers
outer camberlink outer hole +2mm washers
08 hubs medium wheelbase (no height adjustment)
rideheight driveshafts level
wing in middle mount position

NOTES

shoulder cut off the front pivot balls for rear wishbones, 2 white washers placed behind wishbones to shorten wheelbase, tekin 3400 lipo in forward position
kit wing with half gurney (flies very neutral)

car very easy to drive with bundles of steering, fronts have outside and inside rows cut off and rear minipins run full with mr O medium foams,
8g over weight limit, if front end to light under power add an extra 20g on battery strap centre square and 30g on servo

this setup is for high bite carpet with large jumps only as the oils are to thick for normal use. .

any questions feel free to ask

Neil Skull 04-12-2009 11:11 AM

Well i have booked in and paid up.
4wd only for me and Mike.

We thought as novices it could be easier. well thats my reasoning :)

I think pitting together is a great idea we need top share the knowledge :)

I found out Colin Bliss will be the shop on site.

njc11 04-12-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 317846)
Well i have booked in and paid up.
4wd only for me and Mike.

We thought as novices it could be easier. well thats my reasoning :)

I think pitting together is a great idea we need top share the knowledge :)

I found out Colin Bliss will be the shop on site.

Cool..

Im hopeing to get to Maritime early friday afternoon.. so if im there first i'll grab a spot :) well 8 spots i reckon? If someone is there before me.. put your towels down.. lol! :woot:

Any idea on the Red hoodies?

RogerM 04-12-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arn0 (Post 317764)
Yes Roger, the FS was available at this time of the year, Fabs was running the car.
CU there!

LOL ... not like me game with K' car update ... lol

Your going to be there too Arno, be nice to meet you in person

RogerM 04-12-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 317846)
Well i have booked in and paid up.
4wd only for me and Mike.

We thought as novices it could be easier. well thats my reasoning :)

I think pitting together is a great idea we need top share the knowledge :)

I found out Colin Bliss will be the shop on site.

Neil, be good to meet you and see Mike again.

I have to try and find a carpet meeting to run the FS at before the Petit event as I've never had the car on carpet :(.

I have an idea of how to start and to be honest now I've found the key with which to balance the FS I am not expecting the starting set-up to be too disimilar to that I run on high grip astro (which I will post up over this weekend). This seems to be the basic med-high grip set-up for me and I'm only changing minor things .... low grip, well I'll tell you after this weekend @ PDA :D

I had a great set-up for carpet with the ZX5-SP though and the key was in the rear springs, Kyosho don't do anything heavy enough so I went to Losi orange springs and that really helped, Kyosho lime green #75s on thefront. Oils up 5wt all round. Shocks relocated to outer holes on both front and rear wishbones and outer on the shock towers to keep the shock inclination something close to normal.
At club (very small and technical track so not directly comparable) no other 4wd buggy could get close and that was with me driving so god knows how quick it would have been with a good driver :)

Ran the car with 1.4mm rear ARB and 1.2mm front ARB, links similar to normal as was wheelbase and anti-squat / kick up. Castor reduced to 7deg (normally ran 10deg)

RogerM 04-12-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njc11 (Post 317854)
Cool..

Im hopeing to get to Maritime early friday afternoon.. so if im there first i'll grab a spot :) well 8 spots i reckon? If someone is there before me.. put your towels down.. lol! :woot:

Any idea on the Red hoodies?

Neil, I'll PM you my mobile number so we can get in contact during the day. I hope to be there mid Friday afternoon (leaving at midday and it's about a 3 hour drive for me) although I'll probably call in at MicroTech Racing on the way to stock up on parts and tires so might be nearer 4pm.

I'm trying to get one of my friends to come along too who also runs K' cars (my first convert, hopefully one of many) so might need a place for him too, will let you know.

Fabs 04-12-2009 12:23 PM

Amazing what having Shin attend the race does!

Make it 11 spaces JY is coming apparently :woot:

Neil Skull 04-12-2009 12:28 PM

All i can say is OMG!!!!!!!

Neil Skull 04-12-2009 01:16 PM

Just spoke to Jean on phone,

He wants to race and maybe Stephane Deroche too.

that would be awsome :)

Nicolas Petit 04-12-2009 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 317899)
Just spoke to Jean on phone,

He wants to race and maybe Stephane Deroche too.

that would be awsome :)


sure :thumbsup: I know them very well - Stephane already raced the 1rd and 2nd edition

Lowie 04-12-2009 01:57 PM

I'll be there too, running 4WD with my Predator, and 2WD with my Kyosho RB5

RogerM 04-12-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowie (Post 317918)
I'll be there too, running 4WD with my Predator, and 2WD with my Kyosho RB5

You can pit with us on the saturday but it will be the other end of the hall with you for the 4wd event ;)

Only joking ..... pop over and say hi, nice to meet you in person

Neil Skull 04-12-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicolas Petit (Post 317912)
sure :thumbsup: I know them very well - Stephane already raced the 1rd and 2nd edition

Yes we know Stephane very well a really good racer.

thanks again for your help Nicolas.
I look forward to meeting you and all the Kyosho drivers i have never met in person.

Neil Skull 04-12-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 317924)
You can pit with us on the saturday but it will be the other end of the hall with you for the 4wd event ;)

Only joking ..... pop over and say hi, nice to meet you in person


Ha Ha.

dont worry we are not like that Lowie,
we have lots of friends who dont run kyosho, but you know that at some point in their racing nearly everyone has!!!!

RogerM 04-12-2009 02:49 PM

Lowie ... do you run the RB5 on carpet over there?

P.S. (secretly Im still a huge fan of the Pred design after running one for 9 years;) )

Lowie 04-12-2009 04:03 PM

I only bought the RB5 this year, (second hand from Niggs) and drove it at a local track on grass.

I haven't raced it on carpet yet, so I can't help you there.

I still have some hope, Fabs might turn out with his mid-conversion-kit because I would really want to try that out, .. if possible at Petit.


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